Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-13 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 06:40:58PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote:
mergemaster
 Yes, I have.  It doesn't make much of a dent in the real problem, which
 is separating diffs like:

variations on a theme deleted

Good point.

I adopted the rc.local solution some time ago, which simplified matters
a lot for me.  As yet, I've not been caught out by a new or changed
default in rc.conf.

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Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-09 Thread Adrian Wontroba
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:14:22PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote:
 I haven't used it yet, but I definately think the idea is an
 improvement.  I hate trying to update /etc after an upgrade.. if it's
 been a while, or it's between major versions, it can take a very
 significant amount of time.

Have you tried the mergemaster port for this?  It greatly speeds the
task.

 Anything that moves local changes to a
 seperate file is a blessing.

True.

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Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-09 Thread Christopher Masto
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 10:11:48PM +, Adrian Wontroba wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:14:22PM -0500, Christopher Masto wrote:
  I haven't used it yet, but I definately think the idea is an
  improvement.  I hate trying to update /etc after an upgrade.. if it's
  been a while, or it's between major versions, it can take a very
  significant amount of time.
 
 Have you tried the mergemaster port for this?  It greatly speeds the
 task.

Yes, I have.  It doesn't make much of a dent in the real problem, which
is separating diffs like:

- portmap_enable=YES# Run the portmapper service (or NO)
+ portmap_enable=YES# Run the portmapper service (or NO).

from

- portmap_enable=NO # Run the portmapper service (or NO).
+ portmap_enable=YES# Run the portmapper service (or NO).

from

  portmap_enable=YES# Run the portmapper service (or NO).
+ portmap_flags=# Flags to portmap (if enabled).

ad infinitum.

The latest compromise is still good enough for me.  I just don't
want to go back to having to edit the same file that I have to
upgrade.
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RE: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-08 Thread paul
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Masto [mailto:ch...@netmonger.net]
 Sent: 07 February 1999 20:14
 To: curr...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site
 
 
 I haven't used it yet, but I definately think the idea is an
 improvement.  I hate trying to update /etc after an upgrade.. if it's
 been a while, or it's between major versions, it can take a very
 significant amount of time.  Anything that moves local changes to a
 seperate file is a blessing.
 
 Also, having had sysinstall destroy my /etc/rc.conf on more than one
 occasion, I am grateful to not have it touched any more.

I don't understand what rc.conf.site buys us, surely sysinstall is just an
admin tool for maintaining site specific options in exactly the same way
that vi /etc/rc.conf.local would be?

I think it's getting overly engineered and we're just chasing our tails. Why
can't there be a set of shipped defaults, set in /usr/share that is never
touched by local sites and by definition will always be up to date and then
have a single file /etc/rc.conf that provides local overrides. Whether you
maintain it with sysinstall or vi shouldn't really matter.


Paul.

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Re: was: some woes about rc.conf.site

1999-02-07 Thread Christopher Masto
I haven't used it yet, but I definately think the idea is an
improvement.  I hate trying to update /etc after an upgrade.. if it's
been a while, or it's between major versions, it can take a very
significant amount of time.  Anything that moves local changes to a
seperate file is a blessing.

Also, having had sysinstall destroy my /etc/rc.conf on more than one
occasion, I am grateful to not have it touched any more.
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