Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-11 Thread Sean Bruno
On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 10:16 -0800, Jack Vogel wrote:
 For those that may have run across the story on Slashdot about this NIC,
 here is our statement:
 
 Recently there were a few stories published, based on a blog post by an
 end-user, suggesting specific network packets may cause the Intel® 82574L
 Gigabit Ethernet Controller to become unresponsive until corrected by a
 full platform power cycle.
 
 Intel was made aware of this issue in September 2012 by the blogs author.
 Intel worked with the author as well as the original motherboard
 manufacturer to investigate and determine root cause. Intel root caused the
 issue to the specific vendor’s mother board design where an incorrect
 EEPROM image was programmed during manufacturing.  We communicated the
 findings and recommended corrections to the motherboard manufacturer.
 
 It is Intel’s belief that this is an implementation issue isolated to a
 specific manufacturer, not a design problem with the Intel 82574L Gigabit
 Ethernet controller.  Intel has not observed this issue with any
 implementations which follow Intel’s published design guidelines.  Intel
 recommends contacting your motherboard manufacturer if you have continued
 concerns or questions whether your products are impacted.
 Here is the link:
 
 http://communities.intel.com/community/wired/blog/2013/02/07/intel-82574l-gigabit-ethernet-controller-statement
 
 Any questions or concerns may be sent to me.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jack

Thanks for the info.  I'm sure there were some *interesting* debugging
sessions during this.  

Sean

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread Johnny Eriksson
 In all honesty.. The blog post (and your email) are basically
 information free, they don't name names and provide no script
 or downloadable code that will allow end users to check if they
 are affected.

A link with a little bit more information:

  http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html

 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 09/02/2013, at 20:42, Parv p...@pair.com wrote:
 Contact your motherboard manufacturer is much more time
 consuming than Run sysctl... | grep foo | awk ... to see if your
 system is affected.
 
 Gift^WStraight from horse's mouth ...
 
  http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html

I've already read this.

  http://www.kriskinc.com/intel-pod

I'd really rather a test which reads the EEPROM and tells me if it's a problem 
rather than hang the interface on a machine :)

In any case that isn't the point - this may be a vendor issue but it reflects 
poorly on Intel that they didn't take proper ownership of the issue. It would 
be far, far better for their image to say some systems may have the fault, go 
to http:// to find a way to test for your operating system.

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 02/09/13 09:15, schrieb Johnny Eriksson:
 In all honesty.. The blog post (and your email) are basically
 information free, they don't name names and provide no script
 or downloadable code that will allow end users to check if they
 are affected.
 
 A link with a little bit more information:
 
   http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html
 
 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
 
 --Johnny


We don't even have the tool tcpreplay in the ports mentioned in that BLOG.

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread Parv
in message a18965a6-8d17-4919-9947-fe43d2503...@gsoft.com.au,
wrote Daniel O'Connor thusly...


 On 09/02/2013, at 4:46, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote:

  recommends contacting your motherboard manufacturer if you have
  continued concerns or questions whether your products are
  impacted.  Here is the link:
 
  http://communities.intel.com/community/wired/blog/2013/02/07/intel-82574l-gigabit-ethernet-controller-statement
 
  Any questions or concerns may be sent to me.

 In all honesty.. The blog post (and your email) are basically
 information free, they don't name names and provide no script or
 downloadable code that will allow end users to check if they are
 affected.

 Contact your motherboard manufacturer is much more time
 consuming than Run sysctl... | grep foo | awk ... to see if your
 system is affected.

Gift^WStraight from horse's mouth ...

  http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html

  http://www.kriskinc.com/intel-pod


  - parv

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## O. Hartmann (ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de):

 We don't even have the tool tcpreplay in the ports mentioned in that BLOG.

It's in net-mgmt/tcpreplay.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread CeDeROM
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Christoph Moench-Tegeder
c...@burggraben.net wrote:
 ## O. Hartmann (ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de):
 We don't even have the tool tcpreplay in the ports mentioned in that BLOG.
 It's in net-mgmt/tcpreplay.

And I managed to build mentioned Ostinato packet crafting utility with
no problem on my FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE AMD64. If they provide package
and release (which I already asked from the authors) I will make a
port for this tool as well :-)

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread matt
On 02/09/13 09:15, Johnny Eriksson wrote:
 In all honesty.. The blog post (and your email) are basically
 information free, they don't name names and provide no script
 or downloadable code that will allow end users to check if they
 are affected.
 A link with a little bit more information:

   http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html

 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
 --Johnny
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Did anyone check to see if the Intel announcement had a 2 at 0x47f? :)

I do have a machine with these controllers that had a bridge hang in a
very odd fashion a while back, but it didn't repeat. It wasn't a
SuperMicro board, which is what some posters were saying were affected.

I would imagine a large ping packet (as used to test MTU) should
inoculate any affected interface if issued at boot, I don't think our
padding lines up with the problem. Once an interface sees a packet with
anything else at 0x47f, it's no longer affected, so there's a narrow
window of vulnerability in affected NICs.

Matt
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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-09 Thread CeDeROM
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:25 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Christoph Moench-Tegeder
 c...@burggraben.net wrote:
 ## O. Hartmann (ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de):
 We don't even have the tool tcpreplay in the ports mentioned in that BLOG.
 It's in net-mgmt/tcpreplay.

 And I managed to build mentioned Ostinato packet crafting utility with
 no problem on my FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE AMD64. If they provide package
 and release (which I already asked from the authors) I will make a
 port for this tool as well :-)

There it goes http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=175993 have fun! :-)

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Re: Intel 82574 issue reported on Slashdot

2013-02-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On 09/02/2013, at 4:46, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote:

 recommends contacting your motherboard manufacturer if you have continued
 concerns or questions whether your products are impacted.
 Here is the link:
 
 http://communities.intel.com/community/wired/blog/2013/02/07/intel-82574l-gigabit-ethernet-controller-statement
 
 Any questions or concerns may be sent to me.

In all honesty.. The blog post (and your email) are basically information free, 
they don't name names and provide no script or downloadable code that will 
allow end users to check if they are affected.

Contact your motherboard manufacturer is much more time consuming than Run 
sysctl... | grep foo | awk ... to see if your system is affected.

--
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from.
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GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C






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