Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Terry Lambert wrote:

Daniel C. Sobral wrote:

device cloning is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
I every used that term.  On demand device creation is closer,
but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.

Worst of all, device cloning is one of Terry's buzzwords. :-)
Actually, it's an SVR4/AIX/Solaris/Any-UNIX-Except-FreeBSD buzzword.

8-).
So... are we buzzword-compliant now? :-)

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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenelinstallkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenelinstallkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Paolo Pisati

Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenelinstallkernel,
rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 12:49:54 
CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$

I need it for tcpdump, 
any idea how to fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:07:04PM +0100, Paolo Pisati wrote:
 
 Added device bpf to my kernel config file, make a buildkenelinstallkernel,
 rebooted but there's not bpf in /dev:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ grep bpf /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/SOUTHCROSS
 device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ uname -a
 FreeBSD southcross.skynet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #25: Tue Mar 11 
 12:49:54 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOUTHCROSS  i386
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$ ls /dev/bpf*
 ls: /dev/bpf*: No such file or directory
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] flag]$
 
 I need it for tcpdump, 
 any idea how to fix it?
 
Try ls -l /dev/bpf0 instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)


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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Flag_reda
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:14:08PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
 Try ls -l /dev/bpf0 instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)

It works

But, why it works like this?!?!?
 
/me confused =P

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:41:54PM +0100, Flag_reda wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:14:08PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
  Try ls -l /dev/bpf0 instead, etc.  Beware of DEVFS surprises.  :-)
 
 It works
 
 But, why it works like this?!?!?
  
 /me confused =P
 
Because of device cloning; devices are created on demand.


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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ruslan Ermilov writes:

Because of device cloning; devices are created on demand.

device cloning is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
I every used that term.  On demand device creation is closer,
but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Bradley T Hughes
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 17:06, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
[snip]
 device cloning is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
 I every used that term.  On demand device creation is closer,
 but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.

... but device on demand does have a ring to it :)

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Re: What's happened to bpf?

2003-03-11 Thread Terry Lambert
Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
  device cloning is really a wrong name for this, and I regret that
  I every used that term.  On demand device creation is closer,
  but it doesn't have any sort of ring to it.
 
 Worst of all, device cloning is one of Terry's buzzwords. :-)

Actually, it's an SVR4/AIX/Solaris/Any-UNIX-Except-FreeBSD buzzword.

8-).

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