Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-10 Thread jfesler
> NOTE that unlike the WIDE client, the ISC client defaults to overwriting
> your /etc/resolv.conf file.  In my case, an action that pisses me off
> because I now have to write a messy /etc/dhclient.conf file to stop this
> nonsence.

On the flip side, you'll be able to set things the way you want (and make
them *very* easy to find, versus the man page).  There are sites that
need/should  to pick up DNS off the dhcp server.  Especially when the
campus moves the name servers around without telling the dhcp users :-).
They'll have the knob it takes to turn that (back) on.



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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-10 Thread David O'Brien
OK, I've decided to import the ISC client.  I am not pleased with this
choice, but I believe the FreeBSD community in general seems to prefer
this choice.

Swaying arguments:

1. OpenBSD uses the ISC client and keep a careful eye on it for software
engineering issues.  (which is really all that buffov problems are)

2. Mike Smith's emails (priv and public) show that the ISC client offers
us more options in configuring a system than the WIDE client.  Issues
include sysinstall bootstrapping support and /etc/rc* hooks.


For the record, version 2 of the ISC client *DOES* in fact require an
/etc/dhclient.conf file:

# dhclient fxp0
Can't open /etc/dhclient.conf: No such file or directory
exiting.

this is stupid and I have a mind to change it to:

Can't open /etc/dhclient.conf: using built-in defaults
continuing.

Also, /etc/dhclient-script *IS* required:

# dhclient fxp0
/tmp/dcsFoU405: /etc/dhclient-script: not found
/tmp/dcsWOk405: /etc/dhclient-script: not found
fxp0: not found
exiting.   


NOTE that unlike the WIDE client, the ISC client defaults to overwriting
your /etc/resolv.conf file.  In my case, an action that pisses me off
because I now have to write a messy /etc/dhclient.conf file to stop this
nonsence.

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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Daniel Eischen
> May I suggest looking at the OpenBSD dhcp client/server?  I'm not sure 
> which one they're derived from, but the CHANGES file lists a bunch of 
> bug and security fixes.

It looks like they're using the ISC dhcp client (and server).

Dan Eischen
eisc...@vigrid.com

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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Parag Patel

May I suggest looking at the OpenBSD dhcp client/server?  I'm not sure 
which one they're derived from, but the CHANGES file lists a bunch of 
bug and security fixes.


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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Mikhail Teterin
> Wackerbarth  wrote:
> 
> > I object to the idea that the selection of which dhcp client is
> > being made on the basis that David has commit privledges and I do
> > not.
> 
> It's not.  It's being made on the basis that David took the initiative
> and did the work, and you did not.

I think, he did. But his requests to get the thing reviewed/committed
went unanswered. This is getting ugly...

-mi

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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:25 AM -0800 2/9/99, David O'Brien wrote:
> I already have a bmaked ISC v2 dhclient.  I bmaked both so I would
> more informated about how easy either would be to add to the tree.
>
> I will spend some time today and reflect on which client I still
> prefer in import.

Does anyone have a good feel for which dhcp client would be better
from a security standpoint?  (me, I don't have a clue, but maybe
that's something to consider)

I'd also note that I have no particular preference which DHCP
client is used, but I do very much like the idea that some DHCP
capability will be available at installation time for net-installs.


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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread John Polstra
In article
, Richard
Wackerbarth  wrote:

> I object to the idea that the selection of which dhcp client is
> being made on the basis that David has commit privledges and I do
> not.

It's not.  It's being made on the basis that David took the initiative
and did the work, and you did not.
-- 
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  John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA
  "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."
-- H. L. Mencken

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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:59:52AM -0600, Charlie ROOT wrote:
> If someone will agree to commit the files, I'd be happy to supply
> the pieces for the ISC DHCP2 client to drop in.

I already have a bmaked ISC v2 dhclient.  I bmaked both so I would more
informated about how easy either would be to add to the tree.

I will spend some time today and reflect on which client I still prefer
in import.
 
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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Charlie ROOT
I do not dispute that he "likes" the WIDE client. However, his
choice seems to be based on familarity rather than CURRENT technical
evaluation.

I have (recently) tried both clients.

For the simple case, both work satisfactorily.

The ISC client/server (pl10) builds right out of the box.
I prefer it because of the additional flexability it provides
for the non-trivial case.
  
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> I personally am ambivalent about which client is chosen just so
> long as *a* client is chosen.

I agree that this is the important issue.

If someone will agree to commit the files, I'd be happy to supply
the pieces for the ISC DHCP2 client to drop in.


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Re: Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> I object to the idea that the selection of which dhcp client
> is being made on the basis that David has commit privledges
> and I do not. Further, it is clear that David has not used a
> recent release of the isc client and is biasing his opinion
> with false assertions.

H.  From where I'm sitting, it looked more to me like he was
selecting it based on the fact that he liked the WIDE client a lot
more.  I personally am ambivalent about which client is chosen just so
long as *a* client is chosen.

- Jordan

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Which DHCP client

1999-02-09 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
Jordan,

I object to the idea that the selection of which dhcp client
is being made on the basis that David has commit privledges
and I do not. Further, it is clear that David has not used a
recent release of the isc client and is biasing his opinion
with false assertions.

It is my opinion that we should not use this criteria to
decide which client will become a part of the base system.

I have been "bmake"ing the isc client for almost a year.
Requests to get assistance in comitting it went unanswered.

I believe the isc client to be a better choice.

If size is a real concern, perhaps we should treat this
client as we do the shell in PicoBSD.

I'm not convinced that the differences are that great.

However, the flexability is :-)


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