Re: diskcheckd is poo
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David W. Chapman Jr. writes: On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 04:14:24PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: If we want a surface scrubber, we ought to have a real one; it's also very, very bad in the laptop context (since it keeps waking your disks up). I have the shar of the port up at http://people.freebsd.org:~/dwcjr/diskcheckd.shar I believe. its already in the ports, I'm just awaiting a repo copy of the files from /usr/src/usr.sbin/diskcheckd into ports/sysutils/diskcheckd/files There are very good reason why serious disk systems like NetApp and IBM's boxes have a scrubber, and these reasons extend fully into machines with a 60GB disk which is only marginally accessed. I think diskcheckd should stay in the main system, but be turned off by default (at least until better heuristics for default operation has been devised.) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
If we want a surface scrubber, we ought to have a real one; it's also very, very bad in the laptop context (since it keeps waking your disks up). If we're going to keep it, it should be turned off by default at any rate. diskcheckd is very annoying. Many doubt its usefulness in detecting errors before it is too late. It thinks 40% of my disks are bad (which I don't). I've turned it off, I know many that have. I would like to remove it from the base system and put it in ports. I really don't see what justifies keeping it in /usr/src. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 04:14:24PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: If we want a surface scrubber, we ought to have a real one; it's also very, very bad in the laptop context (since it keeps waking your disks up). I have the shar of the port up at http://people.freebsd.org:~/dwcjr/diskcheckd.shar I believe. its already in the ports, I'm just awaiting a repo copy of the files from /usr/src/usr.sbin/diskcheckd into ports/sysutils/diskcheckd/files -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
Me not, I think that a good scrubber, ala NetApp - scrubbing as fast as possible in the middle of the night -, is a good thing. Has helped us track many faulty disks a couple of hours before the disks finally gave up for good. -- martin - Original Message - From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: Re: diskcheckd is poo From: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: diskcheckd is poo Date: Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 04:14:24PM -0700 If we want a surface scrubber, we ought to have a real one; it's also very, very bad in the laptop context (since it keeps waking your disks up). If we're going to keep it, it should be turned off by default at any rate. Lots of people have already jumped in and noted that they have this turned off by default. I guess a 'me too' is probably kind of lame in this case, but yes, I also have it disabled. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
From: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: diskcheckd is poo Date: Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 04:14:24PM -0700 If we want a surface scrubber, we ought to have a real one; it's also very, very bad in the laptop context (since it keeps waking your disks up). If we're going to keep it, it should be turned off by default at any rate. Lots of people have already jumped in and noted that they have this turned off by default. I guess a 'me too' is probably kind of lame in this case, but yes, I also have it disabled. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 10:07:15PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems David O'Brien wrote: diskcheckd is very annoying. Many doubt its usefulness in detecting errors before it is too late. It thinks 40% of my disks are bad (which I don't). I've turned it off, I know many that have. I would like to remove it from the base system and put it in ports. I really don't see what justifies keeping it in /usr/src. YES! If someone could roll a tarball for me, I could atleast make the skeleton for the port if not finish it off. -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems David O'Brien wrote: diskcheckd is very annoying. Many doubt its usefulness in detecting errors before it is too late. It thinks 40% of my disks are bad (which I don't). I've turned it off, I know many that have. I would like to remove it from the base system and put it in ports. I really don't see what justifies keeping it in /usr/src. YES! Interesting. I tend to agree. However, the one system I would find it useful for is a system where the 2nd IDE master goes to sleep and has to be periodically touched to keep awake. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 03:11:00PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: If someone could roll a tarball for me, I could atleast make the skeleton for the port if not finish it off. We should just repo copy it to ports. See how I do the setcdboot port. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
diskcheckd is poo
diskcheckd is very annoying. Many doubt its usefulness in detecting errors before it is too late. It thinks 40% of my disks are bad (which I don't). I've turned it off, I know many that have. I would like to remove it from the base system and put it in ports. I really don't see what justifies keeping it in /usr/src. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
It seems David O'Brien wrote: diskcheckd is very annoying. Many doubt its usefulness in detecting errors before it is too late. It thinks 40% of my disks are bad (which I don't). I've turned it off, I know many that have. I would like to remove it from the base system and put it in ports. I really don't see what justifies keeping it in /usr/src. YES! -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:57:15PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 03:11:00PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: If someone could roll a tarball for me, I could atleast make the skeleton for the port if not finish it off. We should just repo copy it to ports. See how I do the setcdboot port. Here is a shar of what I am working on. Comments patches and complaints are appreciated. I just have to make the rc script for it to startup on boot. http://people.freebsd.org/~dwcjr/diskcheckd.shar -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: diskcheckd is poo
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 05:51:41PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: Here is a shar of what I am working on. Comments patches and complaints are appreciated. I just have to make the rc script for it to startup on boot. http://people.freebsd.org/~dwcjr/diskcheckd.shar -- Update: I have the rc script, although it isn't too grand and I haven't tested it, everything should be there and I'm going to test it now. -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message