Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-15 Thread Sebastian Ssmoller
(...)

  unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc.
 
  going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works.
 
  i tried to use my old kernel; build with sources from fbsd 5.1 release).
  i rebooted the system and started fsck -y /usr again but the same
  problems occur :(
 
  now there are two possibilities i guess:
  - something in userland is broken too
  - my ufs2 is really dead
 I'm using ufs1, FWIW, and my userland is from  september 9 as well.
 So, either 5.1R is too far back or you are in trouble.
 
 FWIW.
 
 

so here i go again :) - partly at least ...

i booted the live CD and was able to fix my ufs2 fs (still some errors reported but 
marked as clean).
then i re-installed the sources from fbsd 5.1 release cd, built a new kernel and did a 
make world  - everything seems to be ok now :)

so there seems to be something broken in sources from 13.9.2003 ?


seb

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fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Sebastian Ssmoller
hi,
i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.

i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then 
i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.

i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(

reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, 
inconsistancy soft updates). 
i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'(

so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(

what can i do now ? any ideas ? 

thx 
seb


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Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote:
 i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
 i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.

If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that 
you put the debugging options back into your kernel.

 i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then 
 i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.

Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly
difficult to make any useful suggestions.

 i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(

Panic message?

 reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, 
 inconsistancy soft updates). 
 i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'(

Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8?

 so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
 run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(
 
 what can i do now ? any ideas ? 

When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages?
What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr?  Did you
try using an alternate super block?

What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel?

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Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Larry Rosenman
I'm seeing similar messages from fsck:

unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc.

going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works.

so I think SOMETHING broke here.

LER

--On Sunday, September 14, 2003 08:30:51 -0700 Steve Kargl 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote:
i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.
If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that
you put the debugging options back into your kernel.
i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then
i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.
Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly
difficult to make any useful suggestions.
i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(
Panic message?

reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written,
inconsistancy soft updates).
i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'(
Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8?

so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(
what can i do now ? any ideas ?
When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages?
What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr?  Did you
try using an alternate super block?
What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel?


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Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Sebastian Ssmoller
Am Son, 2003-09-14 um 17.30 schrieb Steve Kargl:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote:
  i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
  i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.
 
 If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that 
 you put the debugging options back into your kernel.

sorry to forget to post these info's: i am running 
freebsd-current. started with 5.1 release and updated yesterday. 
i removed the debugging stuff from the kernel cause i wanted to 
check the possible performance difference.

 
  i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then 
  i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.
 
 Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly
 difficult to make any useful suggestions

i agree but this would be difficult when being unable to reboot the
system :)
.
 
  i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(
 
 Panic message?

no message :( first time it froze , second time it rebooted.

 
  reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, 
  inconsistancy soft updates). 
  i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'(
 
 Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8?

good question :)

 
  so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
  run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(
  
  what can i do now ? any ideas ? 
 
 When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages?
 What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr?  Did you
 try using an alternate super block?

i ran: fsck -y /usr and it complains several times (!) about unexpected
soft-update inconsistency and unable to write block :(

i have not tried an alternate super block yet - i was not sure whether
this could help, could it ?

 
 What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel?

i used default settings


finally i found out that i can mount /usr readonly so a backup could be
possible (?); creating new ufs2 and restore backup could be a possible
solution (?)


thx
seb

 
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Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Sebastian Ssmoller
Am Son, 2003-09-14 um 17.49 schrieb Larry Rosenman:
 I'm seeing similar messages from fsck:
 
 unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc.
 
 going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works.

i tried to use my old kernel; build with sources from fbsd 5.1 release).
i rebooted the system and started fsck -y /usr again but the same
problems occur :(

now there are two possibilities i guess:
- something in userland is broken too
- my ufs2 is really dead

any ideas ?

seb
 
 so I think SOMETHING broke here.
 
 LER
 
 
 --On Sunday, September 14, 2003 08:30:51 -0700 Steve Kargl 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote:
  i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
  i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.
 
  If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that
  you put the debugging options back into your kernel.
 
  i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then
  i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.
 
  Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly
  difficult to make any useful suggestions.
 
  i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(
 
  Panic message?
 
  reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written,
  inconsistancy soft updates).
  i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'(
 
  Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8?
 
  so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
  run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(
 
  what can i do now ? any ideas ?
 
  When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages?
  What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr?  Did you
  try using an alternate super block?
 
  What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel?
 
 
 
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Re: fsck failed after hard crash

2003-09-14 Thread Larry Rosenman


--On Sunday, September 14, 2003 19:02:17 +0200 Sebastian Ssmoller 
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Am Son, 2003-09-14 um 17.49 schrieb Larry Rosenman:
I'm seeing similar messages from fsck:

unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc.

going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works.
i tried to use my old kernel; build with sources from fbsd 5.1 release).
i rebooted the system and started fsck -y /usr again but the same
problems occur :(
now there are two possibilities i guess:
- something in userland is broken too
- my ufs2 is really dead
I'm using ufs1, FWIW, and my userland is from  september 9 as well.
So, either 5.1R is too far back or you are in trouble.
FWIW.


any ideas ?

seb
so I think SOMETHING broke here.

LER

--On Sunday, September 14, 2003 08:30:51 -0700 Steve Kargl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote:
 i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world.
 i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things.

 If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that
 you put the debugging options back into your kernel.

 i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then
 i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed.

 Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly
 difficult to make any useful suggestions.

 i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :(

 Panic message?

 reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be
 written, inconsistancy soft updates).
 i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin
 :'(

 Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8?

 so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and
 run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean  !! :(

 what can i do now ? any ideas ?

 When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages?
 What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr?  Did you
 try using an alternate super block?

 What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel?


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