Re: service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off
On 1/16/21 3:28 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # diff -u usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips --- usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig 2021-01-15 00:37:37.863506000 + +++ usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips 2021-01-16 07:46:57.335803000 + @@ -517,7 +517,7 @@ -- Lars Engels % -If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, +If you want to get a list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, enter "service -e". -- Lars Engels root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # Sorry for being all OCD here. Perhaps it should say sorted in the order in which they were started. Something like that. I think the "sorted" detail is relevant, but describing the key (how it is sorted) is certainly a missing detail, maybe: If you want to get a list of all services started when FreeBSD boots in the order they are started, enter "service-e". ? -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off
On 1/17/21 1:46 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: > On 16/01/2021 23:28, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> … maybe take out the word "sorted". Either that or >> insert the "started order" as the manpage claims : >> >> root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # diff -u >> usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig >> usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips >> --- usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig 2021-01-15 >> 00:37:37.863506000 + >> +++ usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips 2021-01-16 >> 07:46:57.335803000 + >> @@ -517,7 +517,7 @@ >> >> -- Lars Engels >> % >> -If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when >> FreeBSD boots, >> +If you want to get a list of all services that are started when FreeBSD >> boots, >> enter "service -e". >> >> -- Lars Engels >> root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # >> >> Sorry for being all OCD here. Perhaps it should say sorted in the order >> in which they were started. Something like that. >> > > In lieu of 'sorted', how about 'dependency-ordered'? > Anything that makes obvious sense would be nice. When I say "obvious" here I mean "really obvious to a new user that just installed FreeBSD yesterday" and not "obvious to a twenty year expert." Dennis ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off
On 16/01/2021 23:28, Dennis Clarke wrote: … maybe take out the word "sorted". Either that or insert the "started order" as the manpage claims : root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # diff -u usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips --- usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig 2021-01-15 00:37:37.863506000 + +++ usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips 2021-01-16 07:46:57.335803000 + @@ -517,7 +517,7 @@ -- Lars Engels % -If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, +If you want to get a list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, enter "service -e". -- Lars Engels root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # Sorry for being all OCD here. Perhaps it should say sorted in the order in which they were started. Something like that. In lieu of 'sorted', how about 'dependency-ordered'? ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 23:28:48 + Dennis Clarke wrote: > Saw this pop up : > > rhea$ su - admsys > Password: > If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when > FreeBSD boots, > enter "service -e". > ... > > To which I thought "sorted? really?" > .. > Nope. That doesn't look sorted. Unless the sorted means "order in > which they start" perhaps. To me that's the obvious interpretation of 'sorted' because it's the only meaning that's relevant to the context. If it simply meant alphabetical order, it wouldn't have been worth mentioning. In any case, it's clear in service(8). ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
service -e doesn't really sort does it? the cool tip is slightly off
Saw this pop up : rhea$ su - admsys Password: If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, enter "service -e". -- Lars Engels admsys@rhea:~ $ To which I thought "sorted? really?" amalthea# cd amalthea# service -e /etc/rc.d/rctl /etc/rc.d/hostid /etc/rc.d/zpool /etc/rc.d/zvol /etc/rc.d/hostid_save /etc/rc.d/zfsbe /etc/rc.d/zfs /etc/rc.d/cleanvar /etc/rc.d/kldxref /etc/rc.d/ip6addrctl /etc/rc.d/mixer /etc/rc.d/devmatch /etc/rc.d/netif /etc/rc.d/resolv /etc/rc.d/devd /etc/rc.d/motd /etc/rc.d/newsyslog /etc/rc.d/virecover /etc/rc.d/dmesg /etc/rc.d/gptboot /etc/rc.d/syslogd /etc/rc.d/savecore /etc/rc.d/rpcbind /etc/rc.d/mountd /etc/rc.d/nfsd /etc/rc.d/ntpd /etc/rc.d/cron /etc/rc.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/sendmail /etc/rc.d/bgfsck /usr/local/etc/rc.d/smartd amalthea# Nope. That doesn't look sorted. Unless the sorted means "order in which they start" perhaps. So maybe take out the word "sorted". Either that or insert the "started order" as the manpage claims : root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # diff -u usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips --- usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips.orig 2021-01-15 00:37:37.863506000 + +++ usr.bin/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips 2021-01-16 07:46:57.335803000 + @@ -517,7 +517,7 @@ -- Lars Engels % -If you want to get a sorted list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, +If you want to get a list of all services that are started when FreeBSD boots, enter "service -e". -- Lars Engels root@rhea:/usr/src/freebsd-src # Sorry for being all OCD here. Perhaps it should say sorted in the order in which they were started. Something like that. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
