Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-16 Thread muhammedzubair sharief


On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version.
 To: muhammedzubair sharief mzs...@yahoo.co.in
 Cc: v...@freebsd.org
 Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM
 
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at
 06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:
  
  Dear Maintainer,
  
  
  I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD
 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30.
 
  
  [..]
   pkg upgrade
 
 Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
 
     virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
      virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -
 4.3.30
  
  The
 process will require 14 KiB more space.
 
 32 MiB to be downloaded.
  
  Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
  [..]
  
  
  However there was no
 stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was
 recently released?
  
  Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on
 FreeBSD!
 
 
 https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3
 
 Quote:  VirtualBox
 4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)
 
 Regards,
 
 Gary
 

Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which was during 
version 5 release,  I am afraid that moving to version 5.0 might break the 
Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x.
Will version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately?


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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-16 Thread Gary Palmer
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:36:36PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version.
  To: muhammedzubair sharief mzs...@yahoo.co.in
  Cc: v...@freebsd.org
  Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM
  
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at
  06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:
   
   Dear Maintainer,
   
   
   I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD
  10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30.
  
   
   [..]
pkg upgrade
  
  Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
  
  ??? virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
   ??? virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -
  4.3.30
   
   The
  process will require 14 KiB more space.
  
  32 MiB to be downloaded.
   
   Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
   [..]
   
   
   However there was no
  stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was
  recently released?
   
   Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on
  FreeBSD!
  
  
  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3
  
  Quote:? VirtualBox
  4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)
  
  Regards,
  
  Gary
  
 
 Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which was 
 during version 5 release,  I am afraid that moving to version 5.0 might break 
 the Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x.
 Will version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately?


I can't speak for the FreeBSD VBox maintainers, but in general FreeBSD ports
try to put major versions into a new port (e.g. emulators/virtualbox-ose5
or similar) so that people are not forced to upgrade and possibly break
working configurations, and allow a transition period.

I would expect that unless by some miracle the kernel module works for both
VBox 4.3.x and 5.0.x, you may not be able to have both versions installed
on the same system at the same time.

Regards,

Gary
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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-16 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:50:14 +0100
Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:36:36PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief
 wrote:
  
  
  On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:
  
   Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version.
   To: muhammedzubair sharief mzs...@yahoo.co.in
   Cc: v...@freebsd.org
   Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM
   
   On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at
   06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:

Dear Maintainer,


I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD
   10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30.
   

[..]
 pkg upgrade
   
   Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
   
   ??? virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
??? virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -
   4.3.30

The
   process will require 14 KiB more space.
   
   32 MiB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
[..]


However there was no
   stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was
   recently released?

Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on
   FreeBSD!
   
   
   https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3
   
   Quote:? VirtualBox
   4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)
   
   Regards,
   
   Gary
   
  
  Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which
  was during version 5 release,  I am afraid that moving to version
  5.0 might break the Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x. Will
  version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately?
 
 
 I can't speak for the FreeBSD VBox maintainers, but in general
 FreeBSD ports try to put major versions into a new port (e.g.
 emulators/virtualbox-ose5 or similar) so that people are not forced
 to upgrade and possibly break working configurations, and allow a
 transition period.
 
 I would expect that unless by some miracle the kernel module works
 for both VBox 4.3.x and 5.0.x, you may not be able to have both
 versions installed on the same system at the same time.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gary

Forgive my lameness but for the VM itself should make no
difference, right? Except noticing possible improvements on
responsiveness, speed, etc... Well, maybe there could incompatibilities
if the VM has guestadditions 4.3.28/30 installed and is running on a
5.0 environment, although I believe this shouldn't happen.

Other than the above, the only thing that comes to mind is if the .vdi
disk layout has changed so much that would make HD images produced in
one version incompatible with the other. I hardly doubt that.

So, assuming VBox 5.0 is stable and bug-free, what would be the reason
to keep both 4.3.28/30 and 5.0 installed?

-- 
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http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!]
 
UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, 
because that would also stop you from doing clever things.
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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-16 Thread Gary Palmer
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:36:46PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:50:14 +0100
 Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:36:36PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief
  wrote:
   
   
   On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:
   
Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version.
To: muhammedzubair sharief mzs...@yahoo.co.in
Cc: v...@freebsd.org
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at
06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:
 
 Dear Maintainer,
 
 
 I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD
10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30.

 
 [..]
  pkg upgrade

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:

??? virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
 ??? virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -
4.3.30
 
 The
process will require 14 KiB more space.

32 MiB to be downloaded.
 
 Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
 [..]
 
 
 However there was no
stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was
recently released?
 
 Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on
FreeBSD!


https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3

Quote:? VirtualBox
4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)

Regards,

Gary

   
   Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which
   was during version 5 release,  I am afraid that moving to version
   5.0 might break the Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x. Will
   version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately?
  
  
  I can't speak for the FreeBSD VBox maintainers, but in general
  FreeBSD ports try to put major versions into a new port (e.g.
  emulators/virtualbox-ose5 or similar) so that people are not forced
  to upgrade and possibly break working configurations, and allow a
  transition period.
  
  I would expect that unless by some miracle the kernel module works
  for both VBox 4.3.x and 5.0.x, you may not be able to have both
  versions installed on the same system at the same time.
  
  Regards,
  
  Gary
 
 Forgive my lameness but for the VM itself should make no
 difference, right? Except noticing possible improvements on
 responsiveness, speed, etc... Well, maybe there could incompatibilities
 if the VM has guestadditions 4.3.28/30 installed and is running on a
 5.0 environment, although I believe this shouldn't happen.
 
 Other than the above, the only thing that comes to mind is if the .vdi
 disk layout has changed so much that would make HD images produced in
 one version incompatible with the other. I hardly doubt that.
 
 So, assuming VBox 5.0 is stable and bug-free, what would be the reason
 to keep both 4.3.28/30 and 5.0 installed?

Your assumption states the issue exactly.  Most dot zero software is
not bug free.

Regards,

Gary
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Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-15 Thread muhammedzubair sharief

Dear Maintainer,


I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it 
showed version 4.3.30. 

[..]
 pkg upgrade
Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 - 4.3.30

The process will require 14 KiB more space.
32 MiB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
[..]


However there was no stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was 
recently released?

Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on FreeBSD!

Regards,
Zubair

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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-15 Thread Gary Palmer
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote:
 
 Dear Maintainer,
 
 
 I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it 
 showed version 4.3.30. 
 
 [..]
  pkg upgrade
 Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
   virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
   virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 - 4.3.30
 
 The process will require 14 KiB more space.
 32 MiB to be downloaded.
 
 Proceed with this action? [y/N]: 
 [..]
 
 
 However there was no stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was 
 recently released?
 
 Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on FreeBSD!


https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3

Quote:  VirtualBox 4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)

Regards,

Gary
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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-15 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, muhammedzubair sharief
mzs...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

 Dear Maintainer,


 I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it 
 showed version 4.3.30.

 [..]
 pkg upgrade
 Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
 virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
 virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 - 4.3.30

 The process will require 14 KiB more space.
 32 MiB to be downloaded.

 Proceed with this action? [y/N]:
 [..]


 However there was no stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was 
 recently released?

 Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on FreeBSD!

 Regards,
 Zubair

It is 4.3.30 - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-4.3

-- 
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http://www.bluelife.at/
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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-15 Thread Mario Lobo
2015-07-15 9:07 GMT-03:00 Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, muhammedzubair sharief
 mzs...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 
  Dear Maintainer,
 
 
  I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade
 it showed version 4.3.30.
 
  [..]
  pkg upgrade
  Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
  virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
  virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 - 4.3.30
 
  The process will require 14 KiB more space.
  32 MiB to be downloaded.
 
  Proceed with this action? [y/N]:
  [..]
 
 
  However there was no stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which
 was recently released?
 
  Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on FreeBSD!
 
  Regards,
  Zubair

 It is 4.3.30 - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-4.3

 --
 Bernhard Fröhlich


How about VBox 5.0? Is there a time frame of when will it reach the
ports/pkg?

Thanks,
-- 
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http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!]
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Re: Query about Virtualbox version.

2015-07-15 Thread Bernhard Fröhlich
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote:
 2015-07-15 9:07 GMT-03:00 Bernhard Fröhlich de...@bluelife.at:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, muhammedzubair sharief
 mzs...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 
  Dear Maintainer,
 
 
  I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade
  it showed version 4.3.30.
 
  [..]
  pkg upgrade
  Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
  virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 - 4.3.30
  virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 - 4.3.30
 
  The process will require 14 KiB more space.
  32 MiB to be downloaded.
 
  Proceed with this action? [y/N]:
  [..]
 
 
  However there was no stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which
  was recently released?
 
  Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on FreeBSD!
 
  Regards,
  Zubair

 It is 4.3.30 - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-4.3

 --
 Bernhard Fröhlich


 How about VBox 5.0? Is there a time frame of when will it reach the
 ports/pkg?

I'm actually not involved in vbox work for some time now but I've seen that
jkim has some patch around for 5.0 but it required some more work I think.

-- 
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http://www.bluelife.at/
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