Re: systat -- The alternate system clock has died...
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Jaye Mathisen wrote: ... Anybody else seeing this? Or is it make world time again...? There was a patch flooding around to /sys/i386/isa/clock.c in the lists which add a: while (rtcin(RTC_INTR) RTCIR_PERIOD) statclock(frame); to the beginning of clkintr(). This seems to eliminate the problem for me. Bye! Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
* From: Tim Vanderhoek [EMAIL PROTECTED] * differences are 1) entries in inetd.conf are sample entries only, 2) * ports have no way of adding those entries to inetd.conf themselves * (since touching /etc is illegal). Uh, you're contradicting yourself. Touching /etc is not illegal. * 2) The current system for having ports add their own usernames and * groupnames is very simple. It is a little messy in that there are a * number of different pkg/INSTALL scripts, some of them broken to * various degrees. Simply adding an mta username:groupname won't solve * that problem. Besides those that add uid/gids, most shell ports add entries to /etc/shells. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
gdb and source forking
I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Just read it on slashdot: Berkeley removes Advertising Clause
Hi, I've just read this piece of news on slashdot.org that that "UC-Berkeley has changed the *BSD license. Effective immediately, the 3rd clause, that which requires acknowledgement of UCB in all advertising is null and void.". Did the FreeBSD team do this change in FreeBSD sources? Sebestyn Zoltn [EMAIL PROTECTED]There was a time when all on my mind was Love. MAKE INSTALL NOT WARNow I find that most of the time love's not enough in itself. I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. Kick me! Whip me!! Make me develop on AIX!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
* From: Jonathan Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] * What I want is a simple new readable sysctl, something like: * * hw.clockrate: 132 * * I think that this would be useful both for development (how fast * is that stupid machine down in the bunker?), and system admininstration * (who needs a cpu upgrade this year?). I like that. * Doing this for Pentium and better systems should be trivial. Doing * it for 486 and lower would just add a timing loop. Doing it for SMP * would be harder. * * hw.cpu0.clockrate: 233 * hw.cpu1.clockrate: 233 * * Possibly? The implementer gets to pick a better name than these. How about hw.clockrate.cpu0: 233 hw.clockrate.cpu1: 233 (cpu0 only for uni-procs, of course). Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: gdb and source forking
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. I don't think we have gone very far from the gdb-4.18 distribution. We have made some changes to solib.c to account for some peculiarities in our ld.so and there may be some other minor changes elsewhere. It would be some work to break out all our changes so that they can be invidually submitted to FSF. Assigning all the changes to FSF is about 10x the effort and I don't have much enthusiasm for it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
As Chris Costello wrote ... On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: Chris Costello wrote: No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've grown up a bit since then... I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath :) -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands- Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) BulteWWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:29:49PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Mike Smith: If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. "smtp", the first proposal is a better idea then. "mailman" (like it is used on hub) is more for a human. Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:41:28 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) Sendmail likes mailnull and sendmail. :-) Later, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
RE: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
-Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 September 1999 10:41 Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) I vote for 'Pat' and any other mail software could use 'Jess'. Rich -- Rich Wood Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
* From: Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * As Chris Costello wrote ... * I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy * * No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something so I know! ;) -PW (W?) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Wood, Richard wrote: -Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 September 1999 10:41 Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) I vote for 'Pat' and any other mail software could use 'Jess'. I'm sorry, but that'd throw out anybody already running PP at their site. :-) -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "Ordinary folks who don't understand computers don't deserve to be mocked. Ordinary people who want to use their computers but refuse to learn anything about them do." -- slashdot comment ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something so I know! ;) -PW (W?) oh oh! He's upgraded his acronym ... He's gonna take over the world ! -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 01:10:32AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: differences are 1) entries in inetd.conf are sample entries only, 2) ports have no way of adding those entries to inetd.conf themselves (since touching /etc is illegal). Uh, you're contradicting yourself. Touching /etc is not illegal. Well, ok, the word "illegal" was a little strong. However, this is a long-standing policy from at least 1995/6. See the following relevant message-IDs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You state that touching /etc is "hardly sacred" but that it is wise to avoid it due to the large contingent of people who feel strongly against it. The contingent of people appears to have included markm and ollivier, but not Terry Lambert who advocated "templating" so that ports could modify /etc but still have a read-only root fs. I could not find the previous discussion you refer to -- it was probably only in -hackers and not -ports). [EMAIL PROTECTED] A reference to the ultimate goal of switching /etc to be read-only is made by ache. [It does not appear he agreed with the "large contingent" mentioned above, though]. [EMAIL PROTECTED] A reference to the policy of not allowing ports to touch /etc is made by ollivier. I believe this is the message that I read and remembered. I suppose I could have chosen a wimpier word than "illegal", but we have tried to avoid schmucking with /etc for quite a while... I believe this is a good thing to avoid. Besides those that add uid/gids, most shell ports add entries to /etc/shells. Yes, I know that. :-) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The numeric ID is not important. Neither is the name. So long as there's something that people maintaining ports can use. I've followed Solaris' lead on the choice of name, ``smtp''. Hmm. One of my Solaris boxen has mail:x:6:6:Unprivileged mail user:/: smtp:x:0:0:Mail Daemon User:/: (Presumably the smtp user is privileged in order to bind to port 25.) I prefer user group mail since it is non-cryptic and common. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]e pluribus unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:12:13 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: mail:x:6:6:Unprivileged mail user:/: smtp:x:0:0:Mail Daemon User:/: (Presumably the smtp user is privileged in order to bind to port 25.) I prefer user group mail since it is non-cryptic and common. Well, this isn't what we'd want if we sandboxed Sendmail (using the RunAsUser option). We'd want the sendmail binary setuid root, but it'd drop its priviledges as soon as it had bound to the port, operating thereafter as whatever sandbox user we choose. However, it does seem that a number of people will object to sandboxing sendmail, since we'll be introducing a new UID into the base system which, I'm told, causes lots of problems. Perhaps the objections were raised because I didn't say I wanted to sandbox Sendmail. I've looked through my sent mail and I can see that I didn't say anything about it in my initial mail. That's unfortunate. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote: This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :) does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? regards, -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999, Oscar Bonilla wrote: does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? If it were up to me, we would not want to. I feel we should continue to give UCB credit regardless of whether that particular clause in the license agreement is enforced. Without them, where would we be? -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Your fault, core dumped. `-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 11:32:24AM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: On Fri, Sep 03, 1999, Oscar Bonilla wrote: does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? If it were up to me, we would not want to. I feel we should continue to give UCB credit regardless of whether that particular clause in the license agreement is enforced. Without them, where would we be? I totally agree here. Besides it shows a certaing linage to be a direct descendant of Berkeley Unix :) -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 12:01:11AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Hah! Try "mcfeely" for obscure and descriptive. Much better than the much-maligned "newman" or the out-of-date "cliffy". And "mcfeely" has connotations of rapid dispatching of mail, which the other two certainly do not. -- Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Inertia is a property http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * of matter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Sun StarOffice51
Has anyone had any luck getting Sun release of StarOffice to work?? I have the new emulation ports for linux installed and have done the different suggested installs with no luck. I am still getting the setup screen whenever I launch soffice. I also made sure that I created the .sversion file with the following info: [Versions] StarOffice 5.1=/home/cgriffiths/Office51 also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. If anyone could give me some help getting this working that would be great. Chris Christopher T. Griffiths Senior Network/Systems Administrator Quansoo Group Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (302) 777-4141 Fax: (302) 777-4142 Mobile: (302) 521-3436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Sun StarOffice51
According to Christopher T. Griffiths: also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. If you have a recent CURRENT or STABLE, read on: It seems that we may need to edit one of the library again. See the message to -hackers ([EMAIL PROTECTED] by Mikhail Teterin). mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \ libosl516li.so.bak libosl516li.so touch /compat/linux/so (replace 516 by 517). I've not tried it. If you're runningolder versions of both CURRENT and STABLE, then it is just that you don't have the patch to procfs, committed by Marcel: revision 1.15 date: 1999/08/19 19:41:08; author: marcel; state: Exp; lines: +41 -8 Let processes retrieve their argv through procfs. Revert to the original behaviour in all other cases. Submitted by: Andrew Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Tulip device driver question
Jason Thorpe wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 15:46:40 -0600 Wes Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a real tulip, or one of the recent clones? Bill Paul has written a number of drivers for various near clones of the Tulip, none of which work quite like the Tulip (of course). See, for instance, the al, ax, mx, pn, vr, and wb drivers. ;^) ^^ Especially this one.. it's not a Tulip clone :-) Oh? vr(4) disagrees: The VIA Rhine chips use bus master DMA and have a software interface de- signed to resemble that of the DEC 21x4x "tulip" chips. I found the above list by grepping for "-i tulip" in /usr/src/sys/pci. It is still a mystery to me why others don't do that before embarrassing them- selves on a public mailing list... -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Crossing building alpha world fails
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Kennett writes: : TARGET=alpha TARGET_ARCH=alpha MACHINE=alpha MACHINE_ARCH=alpha \ : make buildworld : Is this the correct command to use for building the cross? No. That is not right. Don't put the MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH in the environment. They must be the HOST machine for early parts of the build. However, even if you didn't do that, you would lose. You cannot cross compile 64 bit targets on 32-bit hosts. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
Oscar Bonilla wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote: This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :) does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? No, it would mean Whistle could advertise the InterJet as being based on "BSD" without saying the product contains software created by the University of California and its contributors. Source and binary distributions would still have to maintain the copyright: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the *documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. Whistle would not even be able to mention that said BSD code came from UCB without prior permission: * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors *may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software *without specific prior written permission. There has been quite a discussion on this issue in both -core and -committers, where it actually has some impact. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
APM build problem in -STABLE?
After a recent makeworld, I needed to build a new kernel. This is what I've been getting after the make: [snip] miranda /sys/compile/TP600 % make cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/apm/apm.c ../../i386/apm/apm.c:88: field `event_list' has incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c: In function `apm_record_event': ../../i386/apm/apm.c:965: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c:966: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c: In function `apmioctl': ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: `APMIO_NEXTEVENT' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1354: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1358: `APMIO_REJECTLASTREQ' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1363: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement *** Error code 1 Stop. Something get mangled somewhere? | Kenton A. Hoover | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Private Citizen || | San Francisco, California || |= http://www.shockwave.org/~shibumi | |T O D A Y ' S A F F I R M A T I O N | | There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future -- | |all these are just illusions. | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On 03-Sep-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: Perhaps the objections were raised because I didn't say I wanted to sandbox Sendmail. I've looked through my sent mail and I can see that I didn't say anything about it in my initial mail. That's unfortunate. If you sandbox sendmail, then it makes sense that sendmail will need a user to be sandboxed in. In that case, adding a new user/group is acceptable. It was the adding a new user/group just for the sake of adding a new user/group that bothered many of us. ;) Ciao, Sheldon. --- John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
FreeBSD 2.2.7
Is there any place someone can download and install FreeBSD 2.2.7? Ken Bolingbroke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: gdb and source forking
I have not looked closely, but it appears that the changes to bfd to support the solib.c changes have been quite extensive. The diff of the .c files in bfd/ is 7000 lines long. I know that interacting with the FSF can be unenjoyable but gdb compiles and runs fine on all other OSs I have used. So if the solaris and linux crowds can keep the modifications consistent why can't we? Thanks for any insight. -Kip On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. I don't think we have gone very far from the gdb-4.18 distribution. We have made some changes to solib.c to account for some peculiarities in our ld.so and there may be some other minor changes elsewhere. It would be some work to break out all our changes so that they can be invidually submitted to FSF. Assigning all the changes to FSF is about 10x the effort and I don't have much enthusiasm for it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd.Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 08:47:54AM +0200, Soren Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: wst_done: wst0: nonrecovered data error I've seen this problem LOTS of times when using the old wd based atapi subsystem. I've never been able to find out why this is happening exactly. This was part of the reason I started out on the new ATA driver (only in -current now). I've never had this problem using the ATA driver, so I'm pretty sure its the old driver thats at fault, probably some delicate timing prob. Using the new driver I do routine backups every night on a couble of servers, not seen a signle problem yet... Thanks for the help, but I'm afraid I may have to burst your bubble. :-/ Upon your advice I cvsupped to today's -current and built an appropriate kernel with the new ATA driver. I now get one of the two following error scenarios (which one is unpredictable, though usually the former): Sep 3 22:25:17 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WRITE - MEDIUM ERROR skey=3 asc=31 ascq=00 error=00 Sep 3 22:25:17 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: REZERO_UNIT/TAPE_REWIND - MEDIUM ERROR skey=3 asc=31 ascq=00 error=00 or Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WRITE - timeout error = 00 Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_transfer: bad command phase Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: ad0: status=51 error=04 Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: ad_interrupt: hard error Sep 3 22:34:32 bantha /kernel: atapi_interrupt: unknown transfer phase 11 Sep 3 22:34:45 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WEOF - timeout error = 00 Sep 3 22:35:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WEOF - timeout error = 00 The former simply returns EIO; the latter appears to sleep uninterruptibly on atprq. The apparent inconsistency in which happens when supports the notion that this is, as you say, a subtle timing issue. In an effort to figure out what was going on, I tried compiling atapi-all.c and atapi-tape.c with ATAPI_DEBUG set, but this only caused the kernel to eventually page fault and panic. :-/ Any ideas? I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes... Dave. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.7
Ken Bolingbroke wrote: Is there any place someone can download and install FreeBSD 2.2.7? Ken Bolingbroke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message You may want to check out: http://www.itworks.com.au/~gavin/FBSDsites.php3?release=2.2.7-RELEASE or check the parent page, http://www.itworks.com.au/~gavin/FBSDsites.php3... -- Kherry Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code." "In God we trust... but lock your car doors" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
PLEASE HELP ME IN EAST TIMOR !!!!!
dear, good evening ! My name is lolo. I'm interesting to your web site. Now, I do hope your help to break foreign account. Please ! I need the ways/ steps, because I need some computer components to develop my education. I come from Indonesia, and perhaps you know that my country in economic crisis. And then, My planning is to destroy Indonesia' ARMY web site (TNI), because Indonesia' ARMY is very bad/ Fuck. I'm stay in east Timor, Indonesia. Please give me the ways about how to buy goods (shooping) by the other man who has bank account or credit card. I'm waiting your information soonly. thanks on your attention. Bye ! Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Krinsky writes: : Any ideas? I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any : thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and : I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes... reboot. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/tape count=1000 bs=24k. Then see if you still have the problem. I've seen errors like the ones you reported, but this fixed it for me. Also, make sure that your drive is good. I had one I had to return because it was bad. Soren said the driver worked, and I could never get it working for me. The replacement worked like a charm. I also had one tape drive that I purchased at a garage sale for $0.50 that didn't have a tape head. That made writes to it fail as well... The other one I got at the garage sale for $0.50 has worked like a charm and it is, I think, a rebadged STT8000. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
PLEASE HELP ME IN EAST TIMOR !!!!!
dear, good evening ! My name is lolo. I'm interesting to your web site. Now, I do hope your help to break foreign account. Please ! I need the ways/ steps, because I need some computer components to develop my education. I come from Indonesia, and perhaps you know that my country in economic crisis. And then, My planning is to destroy Indonesia' ARMY web site (TNI), because Indonesia' ARMY is very bad/ Fuck. I'm stay in east Timor, Indonesia. Please give me the ways about how to buy goods (shooping) by the other man who has bank account or credit card. I'm waiting your information soonly. thanks on your attention. Bye ! Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
sockbuf DoS
It probably needs work still, and I'd really appreciate someone helping finish it, but I have a solution. http://www.FreeBSD.org/~green/sbsize.patch -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman / "Any sufficiently advanced bug is\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | indistinguishable from a feature." | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!\-- Rich Kulawiec / To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Sun StarOffice51 [PATCH. please test]
Ollivier Robert wrote:
It seems that we may need to edit one of the library again. See the message to
-hackers ([EMAIL PROTECTED] by Mikhail Teterin).
mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak
sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \
libosl516li.so.bak libosl516li.so
touch /compat/linux/so
jdp pointed out to me that the argv patch resulted in a slightly different
behaviour than on RH. Can someone who had to do the editing apply the
following patch, and test wether it solves the problem or? The patch is for
-current, but should apply to -stable as well.
Index: procfs_status.c
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/miscfs/procfs/procfs_status.c,v
retrieving revision 1.16
diff -u -r1.16 procfs_status.c
--- procfs_status.c 1999/08/28 00:46:56 1.16
+++ procfs_status.c 1999/09/04 06:32:46
@@ -199,6 +199,7 @@
ps += done;
bytes_left -= done;
}
+ ps--;
}
else {
ps = psbuf;
Thanks,
--
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Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Warner Losh wrote: In message 199909012256.paa01...@dingo.cdrom.com Mike Smith writes: : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like : mailman might be a start. Or mailperson, or postperson, or : whatever. mta just feels a little obscure. postmanpete which is both obscure and descriptive. Sadly it may be sexist as well... Hah! Try mcfeely for obscure and descriptive. Much better than the much-maligned newman or the out-of-date cliffy. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide...this is screwy, and I really would rather not have to go out and buy a different tape drive. :-/ Dave. - Forwarded message from David Krinsky krin...@bantha.org - Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:26:21 -0400 From: David Krinsky krin...@bantha.org To: freebsd-hardw...@freebsd.org Subject: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Has anyone here successfully used a Seagate STT8000A (8 gig Travan) ATAPI/IDE tape drive with FreeBSD? With wst0 compiled into the kernel, the drive is recognized correctly, and even works properly with small amounts of data; I have been able to back up and restore (using tar) a small test directory. When I try to tar up a usefully-sized directory or filesystem, however, the drive will begin its work apparently correctly, but the tar will exit with an I/O error at a variable point a few seconds to minutes into the backup. The following goes to syslog: wst_done: wst0: nonrecovered data error total=337920 ERR=70 len=20 ASC=31 ASCQ=0 After this point, and until the next reboot, all attempts to access the drive cause the machine to hang for a few seconds, and then return to normal, but with the new tar process asleep, apparently uninterruptibly, on wstdsc. After the brief hang the following appears in the syslog: atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd atapi1.1: controller not ready for cmd wst0: Sense media type failed Has anyone seen this problem? I am running 3.2-STABLE on a vanilla PIII-450. The filesystems being backed up are, in toto, quite large, but the disk space used is less than 3GB (and should thus fit on one tape with or without compression). Any help would be appreciated; I'm willing to go to -CURRENT if it'll fix the problem, but as this is my primary work machine I'd rather not do so unless I'm confident it will improve the situation. Many thanks! Dave. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hardware in the body of the message - End forwarded message - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
RELENG_3 and diskless booting
please followup only in hackers. I've Just cvsuped freebsd RELENG_3 as of this evening (~21:00 mdt) and using a rom built with etherboot 4.1b9 which has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months. Tonight I getting Searching for server... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd, GW IP fff.ggg.hhh.iii Loading /disklessroot/hostname/kernel... FreeBSD-elf Entry = 0xC01178A0 Segment -1, offset , read 0200, loadpoint text size 2 =0x001583fe c010 Segment 2, offset , read 0200, loadpoint 0010 Segment 2, offset , read 00158400, loadpoint 00258200 Write trailing bit data size 3= 0x00018780 00158400 C0259400 Segment 3, offset , read 00158400, loadpoint 00259400 Then the machine reboots previously it did . My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd, GW IP fff.ggg.hhh.iii Loading /disklessroot/hostname/kernel... FreeBSD-elf Entry = 0xC0117669 Segment -1, offset , read 0200, loadpoint text size 2 =0x001566c6 c010 Segment 2, offset , read 0200, loadpoint 0010 Segment 2, offset , read 00158400, loadpoint 00258200 Write trailing bit data size 3= 0x00018604 001566c8 c02576c8 Segment 3, offset 00c8, read 00156800, loadpoint 002576c8 then up comes the normal kernel boot messages to console I see a lot of changes have occured, the booting kernel is FreeBSD xx 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #9: Thu Aug 26 22: 00:55 MDT 1999 r...@:/usr/src/sys/compile/DISKLESS i386 and was cvsuped on Aug 26 around 21:00 MDT -- Email: ska...@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 ---- PGP 2.6.2 Key fingerprint = 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte/ http://www.worldgate.com/ ---- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
It seems David Krinsky wrote: I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Yup, I use one: ast0: CONNER CTT8000-A/1.17 tape drive at ata1 as slave ast0: Drive empty, readonly, reverse, qfa, ecc, 512b ast0: Max speed=600Kb/s, Transfer limit=52 blocks, Buffer size=728 blocks When I try to tar up a usefully-sized directory or filesystem, however, the drive will begin its work apparently correctly, but the tar will exit with an I/O error at a variable point a few seconds to minutes into the backup. The following goes to syslog: wst_done: wst0: nonrecovered data error I've seen this problem LOTS of times when using the old wd based atapi subsystem. I've never been able to find out why this is happening exactly. This was part of the reason I started out on the new ATA driver (only in -current now). I've never had this problem using the ATA driver, so I'm pretty sure its the old driver thats at fault, probably some delicate timing prob. Using the new driver I do routine backups every night on a couble of servers, not seen a signle problem yet... -Soren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Dell PERC LVD card (Power Edge Raid Controller)
Through a mis-order I have aquired a PERC card (Actually an AMI megaRAID) which I am happy to make available to anyone genuinly interested in working on a driver (This is the PCI RAID card that goes into Dells Power Edge servers if ordered in a RAID configuration) -- Geoff Buckingham Systems Manager Netlink Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
RE: Dell PERC LVD card (Power Edge Raid Controller)
An excellent initiative! I think there are many administrators/system managers out there with a huge stack of unused goods lying on the shelves to no use at all. Perhaps there should be a database where interested devicedriver programmers could post their needs and sysadminds could post their unneeded hardware on. Perhaps in that way we could speed up the development of HW drivers for FreeBSD? Any thoughts on this one? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org]on Behalf Of Geoff Buckingham Sent: den 3 september 1999 10:08 To: hack...@freebsd.org Subject: Dell PERC LVD card (Power Edge Raid Controller) Through a mis-order I have aquired a PERC card (Actually an AMI megaRAID) which I am happy to make available to anyone genuinly interested in working on a driver (This is the PCI RAID card that goes into Dells Power Edge servers if ordered in a RAID configuration) -- Geoff Buckingham Systems Manager Netlink Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: systat -- The alternate system clock has died...
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Jaye Mathisen wrote: ... Anybody else seeing this? Or is it make world time again...? There was a patch flooding around to /sys/i386/isa/clock.c in the lists which add a: while (rtcin(RTC_INTR) RTCIR_PERIOD) statclock(frame); to the beginning of clkintr(). This seems to eliminate the problem for me. Bye! Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
* From: Tim Vanderhoek vand...@ecf.utoronto.ca * differences are 1) entries in inetd.conf are sample entries only, 2) * ports have no way of adding those entries to inetd.conf themselves * (since touching /etc is illegal). Uh, you're contradicting yourself. Touching /etc is not illegal. * 2) The current system for having ports add their own usernames and * groupnames is very simple. It is a little messy in that there are a * number of different pkg/INSTALL scripts, some of them broken to * various degrees. Simply adding an mta username:groupname won't solve * that problem. Besides those that add uid/gids, most shell ports add entries to /etc/shells. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
gdb and source forking
I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Just read it on slashdot: Berkeley removes Advertising Clause
Hi, I've just read this piece of news on slashdot.org that that UC-Berkeley has changed the *BSD license. Effective immediately, the 3rd clause, that which requires acknowledgement of UCB in all advertising is null and void.. Did the FreeBSD team do this change in FreeBSD sources? Sebestyén Zoltán sz...@netvisor.huThere was a time when all on my mind was Love. MAKE INSTALL NOT WARNow I find that most of the time love's not enough in itself. I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. Kick me! Whip me!! Make me develop on AIX!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
* From: Jonathan Lemon jle...@americantv.com * What I want is a simple new readable sysctl, something like: * * hw.clockrate: 132 * * I think that this would be useful both for development (how fast * is that stupid machine down in the bunker?), and system admininstration * (who needs a cpu upgrade this year?). I like that. * Doing this for Pentium and better systems should be trivial. Doing * it for 486 and lower would just add a timing loop. Doing it for SMP * would be harder. * * hw.cpu0.clockrate: 233 * hw.cpu1.clockrate: 233 * * Possibly? The implementer gets to pick a better name than these. How about hw.clockrate.cpu0: 233 hw.clockrate.cpu1: 233 (cpu0 only for uni-procs, of course). Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: gdb and source forking
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. I don't think we have gone very far from the gdb-4.18 distribution. We have made some changes to solib.c to account for some peculiarities in our ld.so and there may be some other minor changes elsewhere. It would be some work to break out all our changes so that they can be invidually submitted to FSF. Assigning all the changes to FSF is about 10x the effort and I don't have much enthusiasm for it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: d...@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
As Chris Costello wrote ... On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: Chris Costello wrote: No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the this isn't a good idea crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've grown up a bit since then... I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath :) -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands- Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) BulteWWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:29:49PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Mike Smith: If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like mailman might be a start. Or mailperson, or postperson, or whatever. mta just feels a little obscure. smtp, the first proposal is a better idea then. mailman (like it is used on hub) is more for a human. Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [...@pavilion.net, j...@uk.freebsd.org, j...@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
RE: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
-Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:j...@pavilion.net] Sent: 03 September 1999 10:41 Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) I vote for 'Pat' and any other mail software could use 'Jess'. Rich -- Rich Wood Home: r...@dynamite.org, r...@freebsd.org.uk Work: r...@ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk, r...@systemagic.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:41:28 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) Sendmail likes mailnull and sendmail. :-) Later, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Wood, Richard wrote: -Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:j...@pavilion.net] Sent: 03 September 1999 10:41 Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) I vote for 'Pat' and any other mail software could use 'Jess'. That's a UK joke :) (there's a kiddies program called Postman Pat [and his Black White cat Jess]). Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [...@pavilion.net, j...@uk.freebsd.org, j...@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
* From: Wilko Bulte wi...@yedi.iaf.nl * As Chris Costello wrote ... * I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy * * No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something so I know! ;) -PW (W?) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Crossing building alpha world fails
Hello All, I've been trying to cross-build the alpha port of freebsd (from x86). The build is failing in src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. The command I've issued is: TARGET=alpha TARGET_ARCH=alpha MACHINE=alpha MACHINE_ARCH=alpha \ make buildworld Is this the correct command to use for building the cross? The source code tree is from freebsd-current, taken as of today. The build failed with yesterdays -current as well. Any help is appreciated. Michael Kennett (m...@laurasia.com.au) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Crossing building alpha world fails
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 06:15:10PM +0800, Michael Kennett wrote: Hello All, I've been trying to cross-build the alpha port of freebsd (from x86). The build is failing in src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. The command I've issued is: TARGET=alpha TARGET_ARCH=alpha MACHINE=alpha MACHINE_ARCH=alpha \ make buildworld Is this the correct command to use for building the cross? The source code tree is from freebsd-current, taken as of today. The build failed with yesterdays -current as well. You can't build for a 64-bit binutils target on a 32-bit host. -- John Birrell - j...@cimlogic.com.au; j...@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Wood, Richard wrote: -Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:j...@pavilion.net] Sent: 03 September 1999 10:41 Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) I vote for 'Pat' and any other mail software could use 'Jess'. I'm sorry, but that'd throw out anybody already running PP at their site. :-) -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator Ordinary folks who don't understand computers don't deserve to be mocked. Ordinary people who want to use their computers but refuse to learn anything about them do. -- slashdot comment ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric
Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something so I know! ;) -PW (W?) oh oh! He's upgraded his acronym ... He's gonna take over the world ! -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 01:10:32AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: differences are 1) entries in inetd.conf are sample entries only, 2) ports have no way of adding those entries to inetd.conf themselves (since touching /etc is illegal). Uh, you're contradicting yourself. Touching /etc is not illegal. Well, ok, the word illegal was a little strong. However, this is a long-standing policy from at least 1995/6. See the following relevant message-IDs: 199509201159.eaa04...@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu You state that touching /etc is hardly sacred but that it is wise to avoid it due to the large contingent of people who feel strongly against it. The contingent of people appears to have included markm and ollivier, but not Terry Lambert who advocated templating so that ports could modify /etc but still have a read-only root fs. I could not find the previous discussion you refer to -- it was probably only in -hackers and not -ports). gdcvv0n...@ache.dialup.ru A reference to the ultimate goal of switching /etc to be read-only is made by ache. [It does not appear he agreed with the large contingent mentioned above, though]. 199601221813.taa04...@keltia.freenix.fr A reference to the policy of not allowing ports to touch /etc is made by ollivier. I believe this is the message that I read and remembered. I suppose I could have chosen a wimpier word than illegal, but we have tried to avoid schmucking with /etc for quite a while... I believe this is a good thing to avoid. Besides those that add uid/gids, most shell ports add entries to /etc/shells. Yes, I know that. :-) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Sheldon Hearn sheld...@uunet.co.za wrote: The numeric ID is not important. Neither is the name. So long as there's something that people maintaining ports can use. I've followed Solaris' lead on the choice of name, ``smtp''. Hmm. One of my Solaris boxen has mail:x:6:6:Unprivileged mail user:/: smtp:x:0:0:Mail Daemon User:/: (Presumably the smtp user is privileged in order to bind to port 25.) I prefer user group mail since it is non-cryptic and common. Tony. -- f.a.n.finchd...@dotat.atf...@demon.nete pluribus unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:12:13 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: mail:x:6:6:Unprivileged mail user:/: smtp:x:0:0:Mail Daemon User:/: (Presumably the smtp user is privileged in order to bind to port 25.) I prefer user group mail since it is non-cryptic and common. Well, this isn't what we'd want if we sandboxed Sendmail (using the RunAsUser option). We'd want the sendmail binary setuid root, but it'd drop its priviledges as soon as it had bound to the port, operating thereafter as whatever sandbox user we choose. However, it does seem that a number of people will object to sandboxing sendmail, since we'll be introducing a new UID into the base system which, I'm told, causes lots of problems. Perhaps the objections were raised because I didn't say I wanted to sandbox Sendmail. I've looked through my sent mail and I can see that I didn't say anything about it in my initial mail. That's unfortunate. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote: This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :) does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? regards, -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger oboni...@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999, Oscar Bonilla wrote: does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? If it were up to me, we would not want to. I feel we should continue to give UCB credit regardless of whether that particular clause in the license agreement is enforced. Without them, where would we be? -- |Chris Costello ch...@calldei.com |Your fault, core dumped. `-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 11:32:24AM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: On Fri, Sep 03, 1999, Oscar Bonilla wrote: does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? If it were up to me, we would not want to. I feel we should continue to give UCB credit regardless of whether that particular clause in the license agreement is enforced. Without them, where would we be? I totally agree here. Besides it shows a certaing linage to be a direct descendant of Berkeley Unix :) -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger oboni...@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 12:01:11AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Hah! Try mcfeely for obscure and descriptive. Much better than the much-maligned newman or the out-of-date cliffy. And mcfeely has connotations of rapid dispatching of mail, which the other two certainly do not. -- Matthew Hunt m...@astro.caltech.edu * Inertia is a property http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * of matter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Sun StarOffice51
Has anyone had any luck getting Sun release of StarOffice to work?? I have the new emulation ports for linux installed and have done the different suggested installs with no luck. I am still getting the setup screen whenever I launch soffice. I also made sure that I created the .sversion file with the following info: [Versions] StarOffice 5.1=/home/cgriffiths/Office51 also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. If anyone could give me some help getting this working that would be great. Chris Christopher T. Griffiths Senior Network/Systems Administrator Quansoo Group Inc. cgriffi...@quansoo.com Phone: (302) 777-4141 Fax: (302) 777-4142 Mobile: (302) 521-3436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Josef Karthauser wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:29:49PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Mike Smith: If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like mailman might be a start. Or mailperson, or postperson, or whatever. mta just feels a little obscure. smtp, the first proposal is a better idea then. mailman (like it is used on hub) is more for a human. Don't use 'mailman' please. We've already got it assigned across site for the MailMan mailing list software. :) And here I think it's a trademark of Karl Malone. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 12:01:11AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Hah! Try mcfeely for obscure and descriptive. Much better than the much-maligned newman or the out-of-date cliffy. And mcfeely has connotations of rapid dispatching of mail, which the other two certainly do not. Exactly. Speedy Delivery is good. Bar stools and never-emptying mail queues are not. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Sun StarOffice51
According to Christopher T. Griffiths: also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. If you have a recent CURRENT or STABLE, read on: It seems that we may need to edit one of the library again. See the message to -hackers (199909011812.oaa29...@misha.cisco.com by Mikhail Teterin). mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \ libosl516li.so.bak libosl516li.so touch /compat/linux/so (replace 516 by 517). I've not tried it. If you're runningolder versions of both CURRENT and STABLE, then it is just that you don't have the patch to procfs, committed by Marcel: revision 1.15 date: 1999/08/19 19:41:08; author: marcel; state: Exp; lines: +41 -8 Let processes retrieve their argv through procfs. Revert to the original behaviour in all other cases. Submitted by: Andrew Gordon a...@arg1.demon.co.uk -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- robe...@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #73: Sat Jul 31 15:36:05 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Tulip device driver question
Jason Thorpe wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 15:46:40 -0600 Wes Peters w...@softweyr.com wrote: Is this a real tulip, or one of the recent clones? Bill Paul has written a number of drivers for various near clones of the Tulip, none of which work quite like the Tulip (of course). See, for instance, the al, ax, mx, pn, vr, and wb drivers. ;^) ^^ Especially this one.. it's not a Tulip clone :-) Oh? vr(4) disagrees: The VIA Rhine chips use bus master DMA and have a software interface de- signed to resemble that of the DEC 21x4x tulip chips. I found the above list by grepping for -i tulip in /usr/src/sys/pci. It is still a mystery to me why others don't do that before embarrassing them- selves on a public mailing list... -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Crossing building alpha world fails
In message 199909031015.saa37...@laurasia.com.au Michael Kennett writes: : TARGET=alpha TARGET_ARCH=alpha MACHINE=alpha MACHINE_ARCH=alpha \ : make buildworld : Is this the correct command to use for building the cross? No. That is not right. Don't put the MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH in the environment. They must be the HOST machine for early parts of the build. However, even if you didn't do that, you would lose. You cannot cross compile 64 bit targets on 32-bit hosts. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: UCB removes advertising clause
Oscar Bonilla wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote: This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :) does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at boot time? do we want to? No, it would mean Whistle could advertise the InterJet as being based on BSD without saying the product contains software created by the University of California and its contributors. Source and binary distributions would still have to maintain the copyright: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the *documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. Whistle would not even be able to mention that said BSD code came from UCB without prior permission: * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors *may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software *without specific prior written permission. There has been quite a discussion on this issue in both -core and -committers, where it actually has some impact. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ w...@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
APM build problem in -STABLE?
After a recent makeworld, I needed to build a new kernel. This is what I've been getting after the make: [snip] miranda /sys/compile/TP600 % make cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/apm/apm.c ../../i386/apm/apm.c:88: field `event_list' has incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c: In function `apm_record_event': ../../i386/apm/apm.c:965: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c:966: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c: In function `apmioctl': ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: `APMIO_NEXTEVENT' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1347: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1354: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1358: `APMIO_REJECTLASTREQ' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/apm/apm.c:1363: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement *** Error code 1 Stop. Something get mangled somewhere? | Kenton A. Hoover | shib...@marchordie.org | | Private Citizen || | San Francisco, California || |= http://www.shockwave.org/~shibumi | |T O D A Y ' S A F F I R M A T I O N | | There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future -- | |all these are just illusions. | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's
On 03-Sep-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: Perhaps the objections were raised because I didn't say I wanted to sandbox Sendmail. I've looked through my sent mail and I can see that I didn't say anything about it in my initial mail. That's unfortunate. If you sandbox sendmail, then it makes sense that sendmail will need a user to be sandboxed in. In that case, adding a new user/group is acceptable. It was the adding a new user/group just for the sake of adding a new user/group that bothered many of us. ;) Ciao, Sheldon. --- John Baldwin jobal...@vt.edu -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc Power Users Use the Power to Serve! - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
FreeBSD 2.2.7
Is there any place someone can download and install FreeBSD 2.2.7? Ken Bolingbroke hack...@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: gdb and source forking
I have not looked closely, but it appears that the changes to bfd to support the solib.c changes have been quite extensive. The diff of the .c files in bfd/ is 7000 lines long. I know that interacting with the FSF can be unenjoyable but gdb compiles and runs fine on all other OSs I have used. So if the solaris and linux crowds can keep the modifications consistent why can't we? Thanks for any insight. -Kip On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote: I have been trying to apply some modifications to gdb but have noticed that FreeBSD has basically gone off on its own path with respect to gdb. Is there any intention pf getting these changes merged back in to the original distribution? It looks like it would be a lot of work. I don't think we have gone very far from the gdb-4.18 distribution. We have made some changes to solib.c to account for some peculiarities in our ld.so and there may be some other minor changes elsewhere. It would be some work to break out all our changes so that they can be invidually submitted to FSF. Assigning all the changes to FSF is about 10x the effort and I don't have much enthusiasm for it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: d...@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd.Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 08:47:54AM +0200, Soren Schmidt (s...@freebsd.dk) wrote: wst_done: wst0: nonrecovered data error I've seen this problem LOTS of times when using the old wd based atapi subsystem. I've never been able to find out why this is happening exactly. This was part of the reason I started out on the new ATA driver (only in -current now). I've never had this problem using the ATA driver, so I'm pretty sure its the old driver thats at fault, probably some delicate timing prob. Using the new driver I do routine backups every night on a couble of servers, not seen a signle problem yet... Thanks for the help, but I'm afraid I may have to burst your bubble. :-/ Upon your advice I cvsupped to today's -current and built an appropriate kernel with the new ATA driver. I now get one of the two following error scenarios (which one is unpredictable, though usually the former): Sep 3 22:25:17 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WRITE - MEDIUM ERROR skey=3 asc=31 ascq=00 error=00 Sep 3 22:25:17 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: REZERO_UNIT/TAPE_REWIND - MEDIUM ERROR skey=3 asc=31 ascq=00 error=00 or Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WRITE - timeout error = 00 Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_transfer: bad command phase Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: ad0: status=51 error=04 Sep 3 22:34:15 bantha /kernel: ad_interrupt: hard error Sep 3 22:34:32 bantha /kernel: atapi_interrupt: unknown transfer phase 11 Sep 3 22:34:45 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WEOF - timeout error = 00 Sep 3 22:35:15 bantha /kernel: atapi_error: TAPE_WEOF - timeout error = 00 The former simply returns EIO; the latter appears to sleep uninterruptibly on atprq. The apparent inconsistency in which happens when supports the notion that this is, as you say, a subtle timing issue. In an effort to figure out what was going on, I tried compiling atapi-all.c and atapi-tape.c with ATAPI_DEBUG set, but this only caused the kernel to eventually page fault and panic. :-/ Any ideas? I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes... Dave. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.7
Ken Bolingbroke wrote: Is there any place someone can download and install FreeBSD 2.2.7? Ken Bolingbroke hack...@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message You may want to check out: http://www.itworks.com.au/~gavin/FBSDsites.php3?release=2.2.7-RELEASE or check the parent page, http://www.itworks.com.au/~gavin/FBSDsites.php3... -- Kherry Z d...@zamore.dhs.org Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. In God we trust... but lock your car doors To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
PLEASE HELP ME IN EAST TIMOR !!!!!
dear, good evening ! My name is lolo. I'm interesting to your web site. Now, I do hope your help to break foreign account. Please ! I need the ways/ steps, because I need some computer components to develop my education. I come from Indonesia, and perhaps you know that my country in economic crisis. And then, My planning is to destroy Indonesia' ARMY web site (TNI), because Indonesia' ARMY is very bad/ Fuck. I'm stay in east Timor, Indonesia. Please give me the ways about how to buy goods (shooping) by the other man who has bank account or credit card. I'm waiting your information soonly. thanks on your attention. Bye ! Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)
In message 19990903233326.a...@bantha.org David Krinsky writes: : Any ideas? I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any : thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and : I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes... reboot. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/tape count=1000 bs=24k. Then see if you still have the problem. I've seen errors like the ones you reported, but this fixed it for me. Also, make sure that your drive is good. I had one I had to return because it was bad. Soren said the driver worked, and I could never get it working for me. The replacement worked like a charm. I also had one tape drive that I purchased at a garage sale for $0.50 that didn't have a tape head. That made writes to it fail as well... The other one I got at the garage sale for $0.50 has worked like a charm and it is, I think, a rebadged STT8000. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
PLEASE HELP ME IN EAST TIMOR !!!!!
dear, good evening ! My name is lolo. I'm interesting to your web site. Now, I do hope your help to break foreign account. Please ! I need the ways/ steps, because I need some computer components to develop my education. I come from Indonesia, and perhaps you know that my country in economic crisis. And then, My planning is to destroy Indonesia' ARMY web site (TNI), because Indonesia' ARMY is very bad/ Fuck. I'm stay in east Timor, Indonesia. Please give me the ways about how to buy goods (shooping) by the other man who has bank account or credit card. I'm waiting your information soonly. thanks on your attention. Bye ! Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
