using vgl
I'm trying to do some work based on vgl but it appears that it is tied to syscons and any vgl programs must be started off a console. Is there any way I can start a vgl program from a remote terminal (but have the output be displayed on the local VGA screen) without writing a proxy of some kind? I peeked at the source and there are various syscons related ioctl() calls. Any reason that /dev/io and /dev/mem wasn't used instead? Thanks! Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Signal 11 during setup
Hello, I presently have FreeBSD 2.2.8 on my system. I downloaded FreeBSD 3.4 Release and made two floppy images on newly formated floppies (did it twice). During setup on the mfsroot.flp I get a signal 11 error (Signal 11 error, I am saving what I can. ). From there the computer restarts. I did all kinds of trouble shooting and diagnostics as described by the sig11 FAQ link i seen on the FreeBSD site. I went to a holographic terminal to see the debugging, this error always happens as the /etc/fstab is being written. I never had a problem with this computer. It is fairly new. A p2 300 mhz, with 128 MB ram Someone told me on the FreeBSD channel (effnet) that someone on the design team broke it, don't know if he is a reliable source but he claimed to be a part of the freebsd developer team. Thank you very much :) warm reguard -xavier __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: using vgl
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Tim Tsai wrote: I'm trying to do some work based on vgl but it appears that it is tied to syscons and any vgl programs must be started off a console. Is there any way I can start a vgl program from a remote terminal (but have the output be displayed on the local VGA screen) without writing a proxy of some kind? Err... why do you want to do that? Even if it's a big program, it should be properly written so that the frontend and backend can be separate and network-transparent, if that's to be its purpose. So the big question is, why aren't you using X11? I peeked at the source and there are various syscons related ioctl() calls. Any reason that /dev/io and /dev/mem wasn't used instead? That's simple. We're not trying to move to making things MORE platform- specific. Thanks! Tim -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]`--' To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: device name of floppy disk
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, KATO Takenori wrote:
The MAKEDEV has such lines as:
# ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96
# ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96
# ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}96ds15
# ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}96ds15
# ln -f ${name}${unit}.1200 ${name}${unit}135ds15
# ln -f r${name}${unit}.1200 r${name}${unit}135ds15
for floppy disk device. I have questions about these lines.
1. What is meanings of the name? I cannot understand meanings of
`96', `96ds15' and `135ds15'.
They're all synonymous, so I'd say that they're different names for a
double-sided, high density 5.25" floppy. The difference between 135
and 96 is probably sector sizes. In any case, I wouldn't worry over
them at all.
2. Why they are commented out?
Obsolescence, I'd think.
3. Are these entries mandatory for all floppy disk devices? (Should I
make such lines when I add new mode for floppy disk?)
When's the last time you saw new modes for 5.25" floppies? I'm not
being sarcastic; I'm just pointing out that they're all obsolete.
Thanks.
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Re: using vgl
On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 01:07:50PM -0500, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Tim Tsai wrote: I'm trying to do some work based on vgl but it appears that it is tied to syscons and any vgl programs must be started off a console. Is there any way I can start a vgl program from a remote terminal (but have the output be displayed on the local VGA screen) without writing a proxy of some kind? Err... why do you want to do that? Even if it's a big program, it should be properly written so that the frontend and backend can be separate and network-transparent, if that's to be its purpose. So the big question is, why aren't you using X11? Because I want to? :-) Okay, this particular FreeBSD box is connected to a scan converter and the output is displayed on my TV. Sitting in front of the console is not real practical literally as the computer is nicely tucked away. It just seems weird to have vgl so tied to syscons when one of the big advantages of Unix has always been remote accessibility. We run more than a dozen FreeBSD machines at work and I've never sit in front a console other than for emergency maintenance. Think about a possible embedded systems project where you might use VGL to display some banners - it would make sense to be able start/stop a vgl program without being in front of the console. X11 is way too big for what I need. I just need some simple VGA graphics on my TV. I suppose I'll end up writing a small console program that can start up my program if no better solution exists. When I said "proxy" I don't mean client/server by any means. I just mean a way to start a console program without being on the console. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Terminal colors
hi, AND Say I want to change the man colors when I read mans at the console. More AND precisely, I don't like that underlined text shows up as reversed (black AND letter on while(grey,7) backround). How (and where) do I need to say that AND I want, say, yellow on black instead of reversed when displaying AND underlined-supposed-to-be text. Any help is greatly appreciated. For supported escape sequences (sequences used to change colors) you can read screen(4) manpage. Then read termcap(5) manpage. It will describe you termcap file structure. Pay espessial attention for `md' (bold mode on) and `so' (standout mode on) directives. Contact me directly if you need more comments. -- /* Alexey Zelkin[EMAIL PROTECTED]*/ /* Tavric National University [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Serial boot prompt messages and a modem
Leif Neland wrote: Just configure it correctly. Don't tell it to talk to a serial device that will be sending it gibberish. A hack would be to have the loader emit ATE0 to protect itself from echoing modems. AFAIK, it would not protect against all modems. I think Winmodems, for instance, won't recognize that command. Another, but perhaps annoying would be flushing the input buffer before each read. It's not enough. At the baud rates a modem work at, even when echoing, the flush is likely to happen before the modem finishes echoing everything. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Nice try, Lao Che." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Serial boot prompt messages and a modem
Leif Neland wrote: Just configure it correctly. Don't tell it to talk to a serial device that will be sending it gibberish. A hack would be to have the loader emit ATE0 to protect itself from echoing modems. AFAIK, it would not protect against all modems. I think Winmodems, for instance, won't recognize that command. True, but until you've downloaded boot code to the modem, most winmodems won't respond at all... (Also, most winmodems that I've seen don't emulate a UART, so they won't even cause a problem) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Serial boot prompt messages and a modem
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Leif Neland wrote: Just configure it correctly. Don't tell it to talk to a serial device that will be sending it gibberish. A hack would be to have the loader emit ATE0 to protect itself from echoing modems. AFAIK, it would not protect against all modems. I think Winmodems, for instance, won't recognize that command. A: AFAIK, winmodems are not connected to a serial port, they are internal boards. B: Real men don't use anything marked win* for Real Computing. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: device name of floppy disk
Brian Fundakowski Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're all synonymous, so I'd say that they're different names for a double-sided, high density 5.25" floppy. The difference between 135 and 96 is probably sector sizes. In any case, I wouldn't worry over them at all. Thank you! Track densities of 5" and 3.5" disks are 96 and 135 tpi, respectively. When's the last time you saw new modes for 5.25" floppies? I'm not being sarcastic; I'm just pointing out that they're all obsolete. I know following disks: 1 8"/5" HD double side 1024 bytes/sector 8 sectors/track, 77 cylinders 25" DD double side 512 bytes/sector 8 sectors/track, 80 cylinders 35" DD double side 512 bytes/sector 8 sectors/track, 80 cylinders 4 3.5" DD double side 512 bytes/sector 8 sectors/track, 80 cylinders 5 8"/5" HD double side 256 bytes/sector 26 sectors/track, 77 cylinders 6 3.5" HD double side 256 bytes/sector 26 sectors/track, 77 cylinders 75" DD double side 256 bytes/sector 16 sectors/track, 77 cylinders and so on (including DEC PDP-11 :-)). I'm trying to add 1, 2, 3 and 4. ---+--+ KATO Takenori [EMAIL PROTECTED] |FreeBSD | Dept. Earth Planet. Sci, Nagoya Univ. |The power to serve! | Nagoya, 464-8602, Japan| http://www.FreeBSD.org/ | |http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/| FreeBSD(98) 3.3R-Rev. 01 available! +==+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Terminal colors
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Alexey Zelkin wrote: hi, AND Say I want to change the man colors when I read mans at the console. More AND precisely, I don't like that underlined text shows up as reversed (black AND letter on while(grey,7) backround). How (and where) do I need to say that AND I want, say, yellow on black instead of reversed when displaying AND underlined-supposed-to-be text. Any help is greatly appreciated. For supported escape sequences (sequences used to change colors) you can read screen(4) manpage. Then read termcap(5) manpage. It will describe you termcap file structure. Pay espessial attention for `md' (bold mode on) and `so' (standout mode on) directives. Contact me directly if you need more comments. And don't forget all the many different flags to xterm, you can control a *lot* that way, if you're in X. Chuck Robey| Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770| I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: DES routines?
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Ptacek wrote: Thanks for the info, by the way I found the ecb_crypt by doing a man des_crypt. Are you sure this was on a FreeBSD box? I can't see ecb_crypt listed in our des_crypt(3) manpage, though it is on e.g. Solaris. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
