Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2

2008-11-17 Thread Won De Erick
> - Original Message 

> From: Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:21:04 AM
> Subject: Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using   
> FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2
> 
> Won De Erick wrote:
> 
> > I compiled the following em driver for Intel NIC Pro (82571) w/ FreeBSD 7.1 
> > Beta 2 on HPDL 585 machine having 16CPUs.
> > 
> > http://people.yandex-team.ru/~wawa/
> > 
> > With net.isr.direct=1, I made some changes on kthreads(default=2) for em0 
> > and em1's rx.
> > 
> > dev.em.0.rx_kthreads: 6
> > 
> > dev.em.1.rx_kthreads: 6
> > 
> > With these settings, the result is:
> > 
> > CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 57.2% system,  3.6% interrupt, 39.2% idle
> > Mem: 17M Active, 7228K Inact, 156M Wired, 76K Cache, 21M Buf, 31G Free
> > Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free
> > 
> >   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
> >52 root1  43- 0K16K CPU12  c  41:38 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_1
> >51 root1  43- 0K16K CPU3   3  41:38 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_0
> >54 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU2   2  39:39 100.00% 
> > em1_txcleaner
> >  1283 root1  43- 0K16K CPU1   1  38:55 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_3
> >  1282 root1  43- 0K16K CPU10  a  38:55 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_2
> >  1344 root1  43- 0K16K CPU9   9  25:51 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_5
> >  1343 root1  43- 0K16K CPU4   4  25:51 100.00% 
> > em0_rx_kthread_4
> >12 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU14  e  44:28 91.70% idle: 
> > cpu14
> 
> This is very interesting. Do you see real performance (network
> throughput) increase?
> 

There's a little improvement on the throughput, but packet errors occurred on 
both interfaces.

# netstat -I em1 -w 1 -d
input  (em1)   output
   packets  errs  bytespackets  errs  bytes colls drops
 32494   483   23083087  15681 0   23719154 082
 30547   330   23104447  16062 0   23077442 044

# netstat -I em0 -w 1 -d
input  (em0)   output
   packets  errs  bytespackets  errs  bytes colls drops
 19889   640   24144754  21307 08719922 0 0
 18071  2436   25966238  21088 08766995 0 0

Is there any other thing that I can tweak to solve the problem?



  

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RE: How can I add new binaries to the mfsroot image?

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Steele
>I'll have to check this out. I'm not getting anywhere with trying to
>customize mfsroot with my current approach...

The goal we are trying to achieve btw is to make gmirror available
during an install so that the file systems are mirrored right from the
get-go, so that we can avoid having to go through the process of
converting a system as a post operation. The standard slicing/partition
commands of sysinstall do *not* support the creation of a mirrored file
system
though, so our idea was to run a script via install.cfg to take care of
fdisk/bsdlabel/gmirror phase, and then install the packages in the
normal fashion via subsequent steps in install.cfg.

Is this something that can be done via sysinstall? If not, what's the
best alternative? This whole process is targeted to be on a PXE boot
server so we can configure our systems in a completely automated
hands-off manner. We have 200+ FreeBSD systems and we definitely need an
automated process. We already have it working fine, but without
mirroring. We can upgrade doezens of systems at a time simply by making
them boot from our PXE server. We now need to tweak this process so that
we can establish the mirrored file systems as part of the automated
install.

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RE: How can I add new binaries to the mfsroot image?

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Steele
>I'll have to check this out. I'm not getting anywhere with trying to
>customize mfsroot with my current approach...

The goal we are trying to achieve btw is to make gmirror available
during an install so that the file systems are mirrored right from the
get-go, so that we can avoid having to go through the process of
converting a system as a post operation. The standard slicing/partition
commands of sysinstall do support the creation of a mirrored file system
though, so our idea was to run a script via install.cfg to take care of
fdisk/bsdlabel/gmirror phase, and then install the packages in the
normal fashion via subsequent steps in install.cfg.

Is this something that can be done via sysinstall? If not, what's the
best alternative? This whole process is targeted to be on a PXE boot
server so we can configure our systems in a completely automated
hands-off manner. We have 200+ FreeBSD systems and we definitely need an
automated process. We already have it working fine, but without
mirroring. We can upgrade doezens of systems at a time simply by making
them boot from our PXE server. We now need to tweak this process so that
we can establish the mirrored file systems as part of the automated
install.


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Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2

2008-11-17 Thread Ivan Voras
Won De Erick wrote:

> I compiled the following em driver for Intel NIC Pro (82571) w/ FreeBSD 7.1 
> Beta 2 on HPDL 585 machine having 16CPUs.
> 
> http://people.yandex-team.ru/~wawa/
> 
> With net.isr.direct=1, I made some changes on kthreads(default=2) for em0 and 
> em1's rx.
> 
> dev.em.0.rx_kthreads: 6
> 
> dev.em.1.rx_kthreads: 6
> 
> With these settings, the result is:
> 
> CPU:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice, 57.2% system,  3.6% interrupt, 39.2% idle
> Mem: 17M Active, 7228K Inact, 156M Wired, 76K Cache, 21M Buf, 31G Free
> Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free
> 
>   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>52 root1  43- 0K16K CPU12  c  41:38 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_1
>51 root1  43- 0K16K CPU3   3  41:38 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_0
>54 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU2   2  39:39 100.00% 
> em1_txcleaner
>  1283 root1  43- 0K16K CPU1   1  38:55 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_3
>  1282 root1  43- 0K16K CPU10  a  38:55 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_2
>  1344 root1  43- 0K16K CPU9   9  25:51 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_5
>  1343 root1  43- 0K16K CPU4   4  25:51 100.00% 
> em0_rx_kthread_4
>12 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU14  e  44:28 91.70% idle: cpu14

This is very interesting. Do you see real performance (network
throughput) increase?



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Re: Giant lock, bce and uhc using the same irq

2008-11-17 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Monday 17 November 2008, Ed Schouten wrote:
> * Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > P.S. In 8.0 there is a new USB stack that is Giant-free.
>
> I'm not sure this is completely true. Maybe HPS could explain it in more
> detail, but Giant still seems to be used pretty often.

All the interrupt handlers of the Host- and Device-controller drivers are free 
from locking Giant when executing.

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Re: Giant lock, bce and uhc using the same irq

2008-11-17 Thread Ed Schouten
* Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P.S. In 8.0 there is a new USB stack that is Giant-free.

I'm not sure this is completely true. Maybe HPS could explain it in more
detail, but Giant still seems to be used pretty often.

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Re: Ответ: KLD loading, liking

2008-11-17 Thread Ed Schouten
* Aleksandr Litvinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> You  can receive a little information about KLD from the book
> "designing BSD rootkits".

I don't own this book myself, but a colleague at Snow B.V. once showed
it to me. I only looked through it a couple of minutes, but it seemed
like a book nice to have. It also shows some techniques on how to hide
KLD's.

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Re: KLD loading, liking

2008-11-17 Thread Alexandre Fiveg
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 02:34:28PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Alexej Sokolov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Not only that. The use of the MODULE_DEPEND macro allows one module to
> > access the variables of modules on which it depends.
> 
> No.  Any module X can access any public variable or function in the
> kernel or in any other module Y, but loading X will fail if Y is not
> already loaded.  The only effect of MODULE_DEPEND is to tell the loader
> that Y must be loaded before X.
No, 
Example: 
two modules kld.c and kld1.1: 
kld:http://pastebin.com/m67799565Makefile: http://pastebin.com/m5418e5a7
kld1:   http://pastebin.com/d154e8474Makefile: http://pastebin.com/m79723138

In kld is public int var_from_kld declared. To access this variable from
kld1 you have to uncomment macro MODULE_DEPEND

My system:
% uname -v
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Oct  7 19:05:20 CEST 2008

Tell me please if I do something wrong!

Thanx

 
> 
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RE: How can I add new binaries to the mfsroot image?

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Steele
>I'm not sure, but probably the installation CD doesn't carry shared
libraries at all? All binaries in /stand are
>static-linked ones.

Yeah, that is absolutely the problem--no shared libraries are available
when sysinstall is running. 

>You could also try scripts from mfsbsd project:
>http://people.freebsd.org/~mm/mfsbsd/
>
>These works for me fine for building custom installation CDs.

I'll have to check this out. I'm not getting anywhere with trying to
customize mfsroot with my current approach...


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Re: Giant lock, bce and uhc using the same irq

2008-11-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:14:21PM +0200, Murat Balaban wrote:
> Hello hackers,
> 
> In one of my production servers (64-bit Intel Xeon machine) running
> 
> 6.3-RELEASE-p4 (amd64) FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Sep 12 17:07:19
> EEST 2008
> 
> I see this "top -S" output excerpt:
> 
> 32 root  1 -68 -187 0K16K *Giant 0  48.3H  3.08% irq17:
> bce1 uhci1
> 
> What I get from above is that bce and uhc drivers both use irq17. I
> assume
> bce is SMPng'ed, and uhc is not.
> 
> Does uhc being Giant locked, affect bce performance, because they use
> the same
> interrupt handler thread?

bce will not need to acquire Giant at all so they will not fight for
the lock.  However both of them will have to wake up to check each
interrupt so there is some time spent there.  Also if you have some
other workload on the system that is still heavily dependent onGiant
(e.g. MSDOSFS, etc) then that will interfere with uhci while
interrupts are coming in.

Kris

P.S. In 8.0 there is a new USB stack that is Giant-free.

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Ответ: KLD loading, liking

2008-11-17 Thread Aleksandr Litvinov
2008/11/17, Alexej Sokolov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:09:00AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote:
>> * Alexej Sokolov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > What exact does the macro MODULE_DEPEND ? The man page is to short, and
>> > I
>> > guess it tell no all things that the macro does.
>>
>> MODULE_DEPEND is used to say: this kernel module also depends on another
>> module (i.e. the USB printer module depends on the USB code). Tools like
>> kldload can then automatically load the missing modules.
> Not only that. The use of the MODULE_DEPEND macro allows one module to
> access
> the variables of modules on which it depends. But man page of
> MODULE_DEPEND doesn't tell anything about this functionality. Hence I
> am looking for any good documentation of KLD loader. But I didn't find
> anything. May be looking in the source code is the best solution.
>
>>
>> --
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>
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Hello,
You  can receive a little information about KLD from the book
"designing BSD rootkits".
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Giant lock, bce and uhc using the same irq

2008-11-17 Thread Murat Balaban
Hello hackers,

In one of my production servers (64-bit Intel Xeon machine) running

6.3-RELEASE-p4 (amd64) FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Sep 12 17:07:19
EEST 2008

I see this "top -S" output excerpt:

32 root  1 -68 -187 0K16K *Giant 0  48.3H  3.08% irq17:
bce1 uhci1

What I get from above is that bce and uhc drivers both use irq17. I
assume
bce is SMPng'ed, and uhc is not.

Does uhc being Giant locked, affect bce performance, because they use
the same
interrupt handler thread?

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Re: KLD loading, liking

2008-11-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Alexej Sokolov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Not only that. The use of the MODULE_DEPEND macro allows one module to
> access the variables of modules on which it depends.

No.  Any module X can access any public variable or function in the
kernel or in any other module Y, but loading X will fail if Y is not
already loaded.  The only effect of MODULE_DEPEND is to tell the loader
that Y must be loaded before X.

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Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2

2008-11-17 Thread Won De Erick
> - Original Message 

> From: Won De Erick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:18:46 PM
> Subject: Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using 
> FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> 
> > From: Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Won De Erick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:16:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: NET.ISR and CPU utilization performance w/ HP DL 585 using 
> > FreeBSD 7.1 Beta2
> > 
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 04:59:16AM -0800, Won De Erick wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I tested HP DL 585 (16 CPUs, w/ built-in Broadcom NICs) running FreeBSD 
> > > 7.1 Beta2 under heavy network traffic (TCP).
> > > 
> > > SCENARIO A : Bombarded w/ TCP traffic:
> > > 
> > > When net.isr.direct=1,
> > > 
> > >   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
> > >52 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU11  b  38:43 95.36% irq32: 
> > > bce1
> > >51 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU10  a  25:50 85.16% irq31: 
> > > bce0
> > >16 root1 171 ki31 0K16K RUNa  65:39 15.97% idle: 
> > > cpu10
> > >28 root1 -32- 0K16K WAIT   8  12:28  5.18% swi4: 
> > > clock sio
> > >15 root1 171 ki31 0K16K RUNb  52:46  3.76% idle: 
> > > cpu11
> > >45 root1 -64- 0K16K WAIT   7   7:29  1.17% irq17: 
> > > uhci0
> > >47 root1 -64- 0K16K WAIT   6   1:11  0.10% irq16: 
> > > ciss0
> > >27 root1 -44- 0K16K WAIT   0  28:52  0.00% swi1: 
> > > net
> > > 
> > > When net.isr.direct=0,
> > > 
> > >16 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU10  a 106:46 92.58% idle: 
> > > cpu10
> > >19 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU7   7 133:37 89.16% idle: 
> > > cpu7
> > >27 root1 -44- 0K16K WAIT   0  52:20 76.37% swi1: 
> > > net
> > >25 root1 171 ki31 0K16K RUN1 132:30 70.26% idle: 
> > > cpu1
> > >26 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU0   0 111:58 64.36% idle: 
> > > cpu0
> > >15 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU11  b  81:09 57.76% idle: 
> > > cpu11
> > >52 root1 -68- 0K16K WAIT   b  64:00 42.97% irq32: 
> > > bce1
> >51 root1 -68- 0K16K WAIT   a  38:22 12.26% irq31: 
> > bce0
> > >45 root1 -64- 0K16K WAIT   7  11:31 12.06% irq17: 
> > > uhci0
> > >47 root1 -64- 0K16K WAIT   6   1:54  3.66% irq16: 
> > > ciss0
> > >28 root1 -32- 0K16K WAIT   8  16:01  0.00% swi4: 
> > > clock sio
> > > 
> > > Overall CPU utilization has significantly dropped, but I noticed that 
> > > swi1 has taken CPU0 with high utilization when the net.isr.direct=0.
> > > What does this mean?
> > > 
> > > SCENARIO B : Bombarded w/ more TCP traffic:
> > > 
> > > Worst thing, the box has become unresponsive (can't be PINGed, 
> > > inaccessible through SSH) after more traffic was added retaining 
> > > net.isr.direct=0.
> > > This is due maybe to the 100% utilization on CPU0 for sw1:net (see below 
> > > result, first line). bce's and swi's seem to race each other based on the 
> > > > result when net.isr.direct=1, swi1 . 
> > > The rest of the CPUs are sitting pretty (100% Idle). Can you shed some 
> > > lights on this?
> > > 
> > > When net.isr.direct=0:
> > >27 root1 -44- 0K16K CPU0   0   5:45 100.00% swi1: 
> > > net
> > >11 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU15  0   0:00 100.00% idle: 
> > > cpu15
> > >13 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU13  0   0:00 100.00% idle: 
> > > cpu13
> > >17 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU9   0   0:00 100.00% idle: 
> > > cpu9
> > >18 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU8   0   0:00 100.00% idle: 
> > > cpu8
> > >21 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU5   5 146:17 99.17% idle: 
> > > cpu5
> > >22 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU4   4 146:17 99.07% idle: 
> > > cpu4
> > >14 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU12  0   0:00 99.07% idle: 
> > > cpu12
> > >16 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU10  a 109:33 98.88% idle: 
> > > cpu10
> > >15 root1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU11  b  86:36 93.55% idle: 
> > > cpu11
> > >52 root1 -68- 0K16K WAIT   b  59:42 13.87% irq32: 
> > > bce1
> > > 
> > > When net.isr.direct=1,
> > >52 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU11  b  55:04 97.66% irq32: 
> > > bce1
> > >51 root1 -68- 0K16K CPU10  a  33:52 73.88% irq31: 
> > > bce0
> > >16 root1 171 ki31 0K16K RUNa 102:42 26.86% idle: 
> > > cpu10
> > >15 root1 171 ki31 0K16K RUNb  81:20  3.17% idle: 
> > > cpu11
> > >28 root1 -32-

Re: KLD loading, liking

2008-11-17 Thread Alexej Sokolov
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:09:00AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote:
> * Alexej Sokolov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > What exact does the macro MODULE_DEPEND ? The man page is to short, and I
> > guess it tell no all things that the macro does.
> 
> MODULE_DEPEND is used to say: this kernel module also depends on another
> module (i.e. the USB printer module depends on the USB code). Tools like
> kldload can then automatically load the missing modules.
Not only that. The use of the MODULE_DEPEND macro allows one module to access 
the variables of modules on which it depends. But man page of
MODULE_DEPEND doesn't tell anything about this functionality. Hence I
am looking for any good documentation of KLD loader. But I didn't find
anything. May be looking in the source code is the best solution. 
 
> 
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Re: How can I add new binaries to the mfsroot image?

2008-11-17 Thread Stanislav Sedov
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:59:29 -0800
"Peter Steele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:

> 
> What's weird is that I can open a fixit shell after the install.cfg
> script fails and then run the same commands interactively and they work
> fine. Why would work these commands work in an interactive fixit shell
> but not during the automated sysinstall session?
> 

I'm not sure, but probably the installation CD doesn't carry shared
libraries at all? All binaries in /stand are static-linked ones.

You could also try scripts from mfsbsd project:
http://people.freebsd.org/~mm/mfsbsd/

These works for me fine for building custom installation CDs.

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