Re: C vs C++
I take a simplistic view after years of C++. C++ is good for large projects that need to be maintained into the future. Then the advantages of OO starts to kick in. For small projects that won't change much then C is the better choice IMO. Second is size, C will generate smaller executables. C++ to do its things adds overhead that increases the size of the object files. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Eugene L. Vorokov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: C vs C++ Hello, I have a small problem. I work for software development company and write daemons and console tools for Unix. My boss wants everything to be written in C++, because he thinks C++ is cool. I prefer C for such tasks, but I cannot really put good arguments of why and where C++ can be worse than C. I know many of you prefer C too. Can you please explain some disadvantages of C++ comparing to C ? Is it slower, does it produce less effective code, why is it like that, etc ... or please direct me to some articles where this can be explained. I apologize for the offtopic whenever it happens, but this issue really pisses me off now. Regards, Eugene To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: C vs C++
I wouldn't say C++ is THAT much harder to write, it does have a steeper initial learning curve than C. Most of that is due to needing to learn OOP at the same time. It is easier for C++ to come back and bite you than C if you don't spend enough time up front in design. IMO the biggest problem is people trying to treat C and C++ as one language. That is only good is you want to use C++ and as a better C compiler for the lint like features of C++ language. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Kenneth Culver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Steve B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eugene L. Vorokov [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:25 AM Subject: Re: C vs C++ Why are you being so sarcastic? Everyone here is assuming that it's harder to write C++ code, so you should only use it if necessary. It isn't necessary to use it for something like a daemon. Ken On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Steve B. wrote: I take a simplistic view after years of C++. C++ is good for large projects that need to be maintained into the future. Then the advantages of OO starts to kick in. For small projects that won't change much then C is the better choice IMO. Wow. Forgot this disadvantage of C++, too. Yeah, it's difficult to write code that someone else couldn't come in and maintain after it was done. This means that the normal rules about write important code and you have a job forever no longer apply. 8-(. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
What I read awhile back was MS licensed from BSDi their TCP/IP stack for use in W2K. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common knowledge in the community that they were, when I set about to prove it I found it to be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code?
I'll see if I can dig it up it was awhile back in one of the trade magazines or their ezine. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Do you have a pointer to what you read? I really need HARD evidence here, not just anecdotal stuff. Thanks! - Jordan From: Steve B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0700 What I read awhile back was MS licensed from BSDi their TCP/IP stack for use in W2K. Steve B. - Original Message - From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user utilities, and though it's always been common knowledge in the community that they were, when I set about to prove it I found it to be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD
Below is the URL on where you can download FreeBSD. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html IF you want it on CD-ROM below is the URL to places that sell it. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html All this info and more is available at http://www.freebsd.org Steve B. - Original Message - From: tywain.griffen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: FreeBSD To whom this concern, Please send me a FreeBSD. My address is: 110 Juniper Dr. Ozark, Al 36360 Tywain Griffen
