Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:29:35PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 How standard are DVD writers these days? In the sense
 of: can I expect an ATAPI DVDwriter to 'just work'
 with FreeBSD or are there brands/models to avoid or
 to prefer?
 
 Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?
 
 Bought one of those a couble of weeks ago, it has burnt CDR, CDRW, 
 DVD+/-R and DVD+/-RW media for me with no problems at all. Havn't tried 
 duallayer media yet as I havn't been able to locate any that didn't cost 
 an arm and a leg :)
[...]

Did you use growisofs or a new burncd allowing DVD+/-R burning?
Have you any plan on supporting DVD+/-R write with burncd?

Marc
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Søren Schmidt
Marc Fonvieille wrote:
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:29:35PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
Wilko Bulte wrote:
How standard are DVD writers these days? In the sense
of: can I expect an ATAPI DVDwriter to 'just work'
with FreeBSD or are there brands/models to avoid or
to prefer?
Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?
Bought one of those a couble of weeks ago, it has burnt CDR, CDRW, 
DVD+/-R and DVD+/-RW media for me with no problems at all. Havn't tried 
duallayer media yet as I havn't been able to locate any that didn't cost 
an arm and a leg :)
Did you use growisofs or a new burncd allowing DVD+/-R burning?
Have you any plan on supporting DVD+/-R write with burncd?
I used my own creation that at some point could replace burncd, but for 
now it is just a skunkworks project (and no I wont hand out copies :) )

I would think that growisofs will work (I do have an ATA version of that 
somewhere IIRC).

Burncd support DVD+R to some extent, depends on burner doing what I 
think it should. But as you might infer from the above I'm thinking of 
changing that :)

-Søren
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:11:50PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
 
 I used my own creation that at some point could replace burncd, but for 
 now it is just a skunkworks project (and no I wont hand out copies :) )
 
 I would think that growisofs will work (I do have an ATA version of that 
 somewhere IIRC).


You meant a growisofs version that does not require ATAPICAM?
(Currently growisofs+ATAPICAM work like a charm)

 Burncd support DVD+R to some extent, depends on burner doing what I 
 think it should. But as you might infer from the above I'm thinking of 
 changing that :)
 

great!

Marc
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Søren Schmidt
Marc Fonvieille wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:11:50PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
I used my own creation that at some point could replace burncd, but for 
now it is just a skunkworks project (and no I wont hand out copies :) )

I would think that growisofs will work (I do have an ATA version of that 
somewhere IIRC).

You meant a growisofs version that does not require ATAPICAM?
Yes, one that uses the ATA userland interface instead, just as I have 
versions of cdrecord/cdrdao.

(Currently growisofs+ATAPICAM work like a charm)
I wouldn't know :)
-Søren
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:44:03PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
 
 You meant a growisofs version that does not require ATAPICAM?
 
 Yes, one that uses the ATA userland interface instead, just as I have 
 versions of cdrecord/cdrdao.


I used in past your cdrecord version when it was available on your site.
Is there any new version freely available? :)

Maybe it's difficult to maintain, I don't know, but what about having an
ATA cdrecord or cdrdao port in our Ports Collection?

Marc
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Søren Schmidt
Marc Fonvieille wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:44:03PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
You meant a growisofs version that does not require ATAPICAM?
Yes, one that uses the ATA userland interface instead, just as I have 
versions of cdrecord/cdrdao.

I used in past your cdrecord version when it was available on your site.
Is there any new version freely available? :)
They are still at my site actually, butI havn't cared to update them 
much (dont fix what aint broken)...

Maybe it's difficult to maintain, I don't know, but what about having an
ATA cdrecord or cdrdao port in our Ports Collection?
By all means, feel free to grap those off my site and portify them..
-Søren
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 04:08:48PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
 
 I used in past your cdrecord version when it was available on your site.
 Is there any new version freely available? :)
 
 They are still at my site actually, butI havn't cared to update them 
 much (dont fix what aint broken)...

[...]

It seems ftp.freebsd.dk does not accept passive mode :((

Marc
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-10 Thread Søren Schmidt
Marc Fonvieille wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 04:08:48PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote:
I used in past your cdrecord version when it was available on your site.
Is there any new version freely available? :)
They are still at my site actually, butI havn't cared to update them 
much (dont fix what aint broken)...

[...]
It seems ftp.freebsd.dk does not accept passive mode :((
Sorry, glitch, fixed...
-Søren
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ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
How standard are DVD writers these days? In the sense
of: can I expect an ATAPI DVDwriter to 'just work'
with FreeBSD or are there brands/models to avoid or
to prefer?

Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?

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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-09 Thread Frank Mayhar
Wilko Bulte wrote:
 Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?

I just bought one of these wrapped in an IDE-USB/Firewire interface.  I
haven't tried the dual-layer disks yet (none lying around), but it appears
to work just fine with regular DVD+R.  The only gotcha is that USB is really
too slow; I'll be connecting it via firewire shortly.

Otherwise, no problems so far.
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-09 Thread Søren Schmidt
Wilko Bulte wrote:
How standard are DVD writers these days? In the sense
of: can I expect an ATAPI DVDwriter to 'just work'
with FreeBSD or are there brands/models to avoid or
to prefer?
Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?
Bought one of those a couble of weeks ago, it has burnt CDR, CDRW, 
DVD+/-R and DVD+/-RW media for me with no problems at all. Havn't tried 
duallayer media yet as I havn't been able to locate any that didn't cost 
an arm and a leg :)
Oh, its slow for ripping as they have put in a lock for that, you can 
get around it by loading new firmware that removes that lock (and region 
locking as well if needed) from here http://tdb.rpc1.org/index.htm

-Søren
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:29:35PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote..
 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 How standard are DVD writers these days? In the sense
 of: can I expect an ATAPI DVDwriter to 'just work'
 with FreeBSD or are there brands/models to avoid or
 to prefer?
 
 Any experiences with a NEC ND-2510 ?  Good/bad?
 
 Bought one of those a couble of weeks ago, it has burnt CDR, CDRW, 
 DVD+/-R and DVD+/-RW media for me with no problems at all. Havn't tried 

SOunds good...

 duallayer media yet as I havn't been able to locate any that didn't cost 
 an arm and a leg :)
 Oh, its slow for ripping as they have put in a lock for that, you can 
 get around it by loading new firmware that removes that lock (and region 
 locking as well if needed) from here http://tdb.rpc1.org/index.htm

Ah, have you tried that f/w?

thanks a bunch!
W/
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Re: ATAPI DVDwriters (not) to buy?

2004-08-09 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Wilko Bulte wrote:
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:29:35PM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote..
duallayer media yet as I havn't been able to locate any that didn't cost
an arm and a leg :)
Oh, its slow for ripping as they have put in a lock for that, you can
get around it by loading new firmware that removes that lock (and region
locking as well if needed) from here http://tdb.rpc1.org/index.htm
Ah, have you tried that f/w?
thanks a bunch!
W/
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I have a ND-1100A, and it has been working great with the modified 
firmware.  The 1100A only burns +R discs, but it has worked great for me 
so far; I don't think that it has burned a single coaster yet.

However, I have only used it under Windows, I can't speak for its FreeBSD 
compatibility.

If I was to upgrade, I would definitely choose another NEC burner.  (Which 
is funny, because I bought the original because it was the cheapest one 
for sale at a local store at the time.  Only after I got it home and out 
of the box did I find out that it was a rebranded NEC.  I'm lucky that I 
didn't get a piece of junk!)

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