Re: Budget on user-ppp
[.] Brian, The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for modem ppp. I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) [.] FWIW, ppp can now be given a minimum idle timer. While not covering everything, it does address the minimum call charge side of things. -- Brian br...@awfulhak.orgbr...@freebsd.org http://www.Awfulhak.org br...@openbsd.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! br...@freebsd.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers wrote: The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for "modem ppp". I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm one of those bad things that happen to good people. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers wrote: The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for "modem ppp". I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm one of those bad things that happen to good people. -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Awfulhak.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). The last I heard on the ISDN-developers' list was that you're working on fixing bugs ? HOW do I use i4b with user-ppp ? There's not the least hint of any information in the latest developers' release regarding that. Whine. I want to test it. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). The last I heard on the ISDN-developers' list was that you're working on fixing bugs ? HOW do I use i4b with user-ppp ? There's not the least hint of any information in the latest developers' release regarding that. Whine. I want to test it. Fair 'nuff. ftp://ftp6.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/PPPoISDN at your own risk all that stuff. Read the i4b notes in the FreeBSD subdirectory if you're not on 0.81.12 or higher already. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Awfulhak.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: I want to test it. Fair 'nuff. ftp://ftp6.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/PPPoISDN at your own risk all that stuff. Read the i4b notes in the FreeBSD subdirectory if you're not on 0.81.12 or higher already. --- Gary Jennejohn Thanks heaps ! I am running 0.81.12, that is the latest developers' release. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers wrote: The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for modem ppp. I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org I'm one of those bad things that happen to good people. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers wrote: The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for modem ppp. I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for h...@freebsd.org to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com d...@freebsd.org I'm one of those bad things that happen to good people. -- Brian br...@awfulhak.orgbr...@freebsd.org http://www.Awfulhak.org br...@openbsd.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! br...@freebsd.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for h...@freebsd.org to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). The last I heard on the ISDN-developers' list was that you're working on fixing bugs ? HOW do I use i4b with user-ppp ? There's not the least hint of any information in the latest developers' release regarding that. Whine. I want to test it. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - ga...@muc.de Work - ga...@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Well? It's sunday... are you going through a slow week, for a change? :-) No, I'm waiting for h...@freebsd.org to commit my i4b changes. He's waiting for feedback from the development sources he released a few days ago. I've only got as far as reading the BACP rfc, but ppp works multilink over ISDN now (but hasn't yet been committed). The last I heard on the ISDN-developers' list was that you're working on fixing bugs ? HOW do I use i4b with user-ppp ? There's not the least hint of any information in the latest developers' release regarding that. Whine. I want to test it. Fair 'nuff. ftp://ftp6.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/PPPoISDN at your own risk all that stuff. Read the i4b notes in the FreeBSD subdirectory if you're not on 0.81.12 or higher already. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - ga...@muc.de Work - ga...@fkr.dec.com -- Brian br...@awfulhak.orgbr...@freebsd.org http://www.Awfulhak.org br...@openbsd.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! br...@freebsd.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Brian Somers writes: I want to test it. Fair 'nuff. ftp://ftp6.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/PPPoISDN at your own risk all that stuff. Read the i4b notes in the FreeBSD subdirectory if you're not on 0.81.12 or higher already. --- Gary Jennejohn Thanks heaps ! I am running 0.81.12, that is the latest developers' release. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - ga...@muc.de Work - ga...@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:20:00AM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: It could be nice with some sort of budget control in ppp. A few days ago I found out bb caused a dialup every 5 minutes. Today I found I had been online 27 hours uninterrupted. Some dialup-routers allows a setup of max a connects/b minutes online over c hours. I had things set up so that the users on my system could bring up ppp at will, and bring it down. I also had /etc/daily bring up ppp when it needed it. The problem being, of course, that the on-demand stuff gets pretty nasty at times ... *shrug* -- dannyman - http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:11:39AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: ? How about under ``set redial'' in the man page ? Brian, The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for modem ppp. Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [...@pavilion.net, j...@uk.freebsd.org, j...@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
Josef Karthauser writes: On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:11:39AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: ? How about under ``set redial'' in the man page ? Brian, The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rate s). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for mode m ppp. as I'm sure you're aware, there's a lot of hairy support in the kernel for this mechanism. It wouldn't be exactly trivial to implement for user-ppp, although it could probably be made to work in user space. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - ga...@muc.de Work - ga...@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:11:39AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: ? How about under ``set redial'' in the man page ? Brian, The i4b stuff seems to have some sophisticated costing control code (isdn.rates). It appears that you can define the costs at different times of day and thereby vary the timeouts, etc. I wonder whether any of this can be adapted for modem ppp. I've added it to my todo list. I'll probably look at the BACP or MP+ stuff first though, and then at the ``when to bring up another link'' code all fun games :-) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [...@pavilion.net, j...@uk.freebsd.org, j...@tao.org.uk] -- Brian br...@awfulhak.orgbr...@freebsd.org http://www.Awfulhak.org br...@openbsd.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! br...@freebsd.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Budget on user-ppp
It could be nice with some sort of budget control in ppp. A few days ago I found out bb caused a dialup every 5 minutes. Today I found I had been online 27 hours uninterrupted. Some dialup-routers allows a setup of max a connects/b minutes online over c hours. Also, I know it is possible to have a longer and longer retry wait between unsuccessful calls, but this is (as far as I can see) not documented anywhere. (Except perhaps archives) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Budget on user-ppp
It could be nice with some sort of budget control in ppp. A few days ago I found out bb caused a dialup every 5 minutes. Today I found I had been online 27 hours uninterrupted. Some dialup-routers allows a setup of max a connects/b minutes online over c hours. Patches are always welcome ;-) Also, I know it is possible to have a longer and longer retry wait between unsuccessful calls, but this is (as far as I can see) not documented anywhere. (Except perhaps archives) ? How about under ``set redial'' in the man page ? set redial secs[+inc[-max]][.next] [attempts] ppp can be instructed to attempt to redial attempts times. If more than one phone number is specified (see ``set phone'' above), a pause of next is taken before dialing each number. A pause of secs is taken before starting at the first number again. A literal value of ``random'' may be used here in place of secs and next, causing a random delay of between 1 and 30 seconds. If inc is specified, its value is added onto secs each time ppp tries a new number. secs will only be incremented at most maxinc times. maxinc defaults to 10. Note, the secs delay will be effective, even after attempts has been exceeded, so an immediate manual dial may appear to have done nothing. If an immediate dial is required, a ``!'' should immediately follow the ``open'' keyword. See the ``open'' de- scription above for further details. (Hmm, I'd better change maxinc - max !) Leif -- Brian br...@awfulhak.orgbr...@freebsd.org http://www.Awfulhak.org br...@openbsd.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! br...@freebsd.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
