Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-13 Thread Nik Clayton

On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 04:17:53PM +0200, Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:
 Can anyone tell me a clustering software for FreeBSD? 

PolyServe?  No URL, as I'm in the air at the moment, but try a general
web search, or look at past announcements on DaemonNews, where it was
mentioned a few weeks back.

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Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Frederik Meerwaldt

Hi all,

as this is a low-level questions, I thought to post it to -hackers. If I'm
wrong, tell me.

Can anyone tell me a clustering software for FreeBSD? Such as PaRe, just
for FBSD??? I don't know one.
If possible it should have the following features:

* Compatibility with other systems/platforms (NetBSD, Tru64 Unix,...)
* Uhm ok. That's the only thing.

But if you just tell me some names, that would be cool.

Thanks,
Freddy



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Gary Jackson

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:

as this is a low-level questions, I thought to post it to -hackers. If I'm
wrong, tell me.

Can anyone tell me a clustering software for FreeBSD? Such as PaRe, just
for FBSD??? I don't know one.
If possible it should have the following features:

* Compatibility with other systems/platforms (NetBSD, Tru64 Unix,...)
* Uhm ok. That's the only thing.

But if you just tell me some names, that would be cool.

What's PaRe?

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RE: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Charles Randall

First you need to describe what you mean by clustering. It means different
things to different people.

Charles

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Hi all,

as this is a low-level questions, I thought to post it to -hackers. If I'm
wrong, tell me.

Can anyone tell me a clustering software for FreeBSD? Such as PaRe, just
for FBSD??? I don't know one.
If possible it should have the following features:

* Compatibility with other systems/platforms (NetBSD, Tru64 Unix,...)
* Uhm ok. That's the only thing.

But if you just tell me some names, that would be cool.

Thanks,
Freddy



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Frederik Meerwaldt

Hi!
 What's PaRe?

It's a clustering Software for linux.
See:

http://www.sc.cs.tu-bs.de/pare

It's based on BEOWULF AFAIK.

Bye,
Freddy



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Gary Jackson

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:

Hi!
 What's PaRe?

It's a clustering Software for linux.
See:

It looks more like yet another beowulf (but built in a classroom
environment) than any coherent distribution of software.

Anyway, "clustering software" is meaningless.  What does "clustering
software" do?  Queue and run parallel jobs?  Set up a communications
medium?  Do load balancing or high availability between a set of
nodes?  All those definitions are correct.

FWIW, clustering (in the supercomputing sense) can be very simple if
you're only building a cluster for a single researcher or research
group.  You can pretty much just set up an mpi implementation, or pvm,
and an hourly passwd rdist, and call it a cluster.

MPI and PVM build on all sorts of platforms, and at least MPICH (and
probably PVM) have mechanisms for communicating between programs on
different architectures.  

Things get much more complex when you start trying to arbitrate
running time between different research units.  I won't get in to that
now, because it can be an exercise in enormous amounts of excrutiating
pain, depending on what your requirements are.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Matthew West

A quick search on http://www.google.com/ returned: 

http://www.sc.cs.tu-bs.de/pare/:
"PaRe is an educational project at the Technical University Braunschweig to
set up a Beowulf-class supercomputer built from commodity components. It
starts from early hardware and design decisions and ends in building and
profiling some small parallelized applications."

When talking about "clustering", you should mention whether it's related to
parallel computing or fail-over/high-availability.

For more information on Beowulf-style clusters, take a look at:
http://www.beowulf.org/

For a Beowulf-style cluster with a FreeBSD spin on it:
http://acme.ecn.purdue.edu/

I've set up a PVM-based cluster on FreeBSD.  It's pretty straight forward:

Basically, it's just a FreeBSD base install and the PVM package (which is in
the ports collection).  A PVM enabled povray is also available in the ports
collection, but I've not had a chance to play with it yet.

PVM links: http://www.epm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html
   http://www.netlib.org/pvm3/book/pvm-book.html

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 10:51:54AM -0400, Gary Jackson wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:
 
 as this is a low-level questions, I thought to post it to -hackers. If I'm
 wrong, tell me.
 
 Can anyone tell me a clustering software for FreeBSD? Such as PaRe, just
 for FBSD??? I don't know one.
 If possible it should have the following features:
 
 * Compatibility with other systems/platforms (NetBSD, Tru64 Unix,...)
 * Uhm ok. That's the only thing.
 
 But if you just tell me some names, that would be cool.
 
 What's PaRe?


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Re: Can anyone recommend a good clustering software?

2000-07-11 Thread Frederik Meerwaldt

Hi!

 Anyway, "clustering software" is meaningless.  What does "clustering
 software" do?  Queue and run parallel jobs?  Set up a communications
 medium?  Do load balancing or high availability between a set of
 nodes?  All those definitions are correct.

That's right. I'm coming a little bit from the VMS-World. Easy-to-set-up
clusters with lots of power, load balancing, shared drives
However, I already have the answer. Thanks Matthew.

Bye,
Freddy



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