Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Doug Rabson

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote:
  On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
  
   I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
   $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
   FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
  
  We have one at work and it works fine. We had to put some extra cooling on
  the motherboard chipset though.
 
 What motherboard are you using?

I'm not sure - Nick Hibma might know since its his desktop machine. I
could probably open it up and check.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kevin M Geraci

The Athlon architecture is changing from slot-A to socket-A, so you
might want to wait for the new chips.
-Kevin 



On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Doug Rabson wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote:
   On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
   
I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
$ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
   
   We have one at work and it works fine. We had to put some extra cooling on
   the motherboard chipset though.
  
  What motherboard are you using?
 
 I'm not sure - Nick Hibma might know since its his desktop machine. I
 could probably open it up and check.
 
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 05:06:33PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
 Wilko Bulte wrote:

  And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a
  PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable
  to the mom board would be better IMHO. Would allow the owner to throw
  it away and put PCI/ISA expansion on the machine ;)
 
 Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing
 bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days?  Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA
 card I need...

Right, that is exactly what I mean. I rather see a ISA/PCI combo slot that I
might use than this AMR thing I will 100% sure never use.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kent Stewart



Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 05:06:33PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
  Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
   And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a
   PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable
   to the mom board would be better IMHO. Would allow the owner to throw
   it away and put PCI/ISA expansion on the machine ;)
 
  Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing
  bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days?  Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA
  card I need...
 
 Right, that is exactly what I mean. I rather see a ISA/PCI combo slot that I
 might use than this AMR thing I will 100% sure never use.

The writeup on the ASUS home page indicated this slot will function as
a PCI slot. When I was reading it, it looked sort of like the old
VL-bus, which you could use as an ISA slot.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-10 Thread Kent Stewart



Mike Smith wrote:
 
Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing
bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days?  Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA
card I need...
  
   Right, that is exactly what I mean. I rather see a ISA/PCI combo slot that I
   might use than this AMR thing I will 100% sure never use.
 
  The writeup on the ASUS home page indicated this slot will function as
  a PCI slot. When I was reading it, it looked sort of like the old
  VL-bus, which you could use as an ISA slot.
 
 You're confusing this with an old, unrelated connector which was aligned
 with a PCI slot.  This is a completely different animal.

Very definately. This time I followed the links until I came to
HTTP://www.asus.com/products/motherboard/Pentiumpro/Cuwe-fx/amrslot.html

This one had an image of one. There wasn't anyway to confuse the two
:).

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Doug Rabson

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:

 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

We have one at work and it works fine. We had to put some extra cooling on
the motherboard chipset though.

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RE: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Koster, K.J.


  EPoX == trash.  Avoid like the plague.
 
 Buy EPoX.  They're good.
 
  ASUS K7v == good.
 
 ASUS K7v == slow. 
 
 May  3 08:00:02 wantadilla /kernel: microuptime() went 
 backwards (65202.831743 - 65202,804412)
 
In fact, I've seen the microuptime stuff doing bonnies on FreeBSD
4.0-release with my Asus K7v. I've cvsupped to 4.0-stable, rebuild and not
seen the problem since. (and yes, I have run bonnie)

I like my Asus. I've always used Abit before this. The Asus is just more
complete. A few jumper caps and all the cabling you need.

It comes with four USB ports. Too bad I don't have any USB hardware yet.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
  I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
  $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
  FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
 
 We have one at work and it works fine. We had to put some extra cooling on
 the motherboard chipset though.

What motherboard are you using?

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
 On Thursday,  8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
  Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
  I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
  $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
  FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
 
  EPoX == trash.  Avoid like the plague.
 
 Buy EPoX.  They're good.

Greg, what model EPox do you have?

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

Anybody using the Abit KA7? If yes, do you like it?

I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys
has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
experiences with them over the years).

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Michael Bacarella


On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
  I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
  $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
  FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
 
 Anybody using the Abit KA7? If yes, do you like it?
 
 I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys
 has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
 experiences with them over the years).

Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
across market-speak.

What does it do?

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:59:58PM -0400, Michael Bacarella wrote:
 
 On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
   I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
   $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
   FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
  
  Anybody using the Abit KA7? If yes, do you like it?
  
  I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys
  has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
  experiences with them over the years).
 
 Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
 slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
 itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
 anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
 across market-speak.

Audio Modem Riser card slot. For audio/and/or/modem use. WinModem I
suspect.. If yes, worse than useless.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Narvi


On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote:

 
I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy Asys
has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
experiences with them over the years).
   
   Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
   slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
   itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
   anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
   across market-speak.
   
   What does it do?
   
  
  If AMR == Asus Media Slot, then it's a slot that is simultaneously PCI and
  ISA, so you can have a PCi video card and ISA soundcard on one card.
 
 They're about a third of the size of a PCI slot, so I don't see how that
 would be conveniant. :)
 

But isn't it at the end of a PCI slot? If no, then they actually did come
with a next stupid thing that has the same abreviation. 

A switched away from asus some time before athlon came out.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith

 
 Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
 slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
 itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
 anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
 across market-speak.
 
 What does it do?

It conects to the AC97 modem codec in the VIA chipset; you put the modem 
line interface on a card and stick it in there.  ie. it's a neat way to 
again reduce the cost of a WinModem.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:38:54AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
  
  Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
  slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
  itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
  anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
  across market-speak.
  
  What does it do?
 
 It conects to the AC97 modem codec in the VIA chipset; you put the modem 
 line interface on a card and stick it in there.  ie. it's a neat way to 
 again reduce the cost of a WinModem.

And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a
PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable 
to the mom board would be better IMHO. Would allow the owner to throw 
it away and put PCI/ISA expansion on the machine ;)

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Nicole Harrington.



 Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will
not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to
be configured. :(

 Ad that to the new BIOS that won't allow keyboardless reboots :(

 These came in a RED box.

  Nicole



On 09-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:54:28PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
 
 Anybody using the Abit KA7? If yes, do you like it?
 
 I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy
 Asys
 has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
 experiences with them over the years).
 
 W/
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith

 
 
  Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will
 not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to
 be configured. :(

Try putting "SCSI" above anything else in the "boot order" menu.  I've 
been trying for some time now to work out how these stupid menus are 
sorted, and how they determine what constitutes "SCSI" as opposed to eg. 
an int19 device.  I fear that it's not very deterministic. 8(

  Ad that to the new BIOS that won't allow keyboardless reboots :(

Bitch to ASUS about this, I guess. 8(
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Wes Peters

Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:38:54AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
  
   Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
   slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
   itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
   anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
   across market-speak.
  
   What does it do?
 
  It conects to the AC97 modem codec in the VIA chipset; you put the modem
  line interface on a card and stick it in there.  ie. it's a neat way to
  again reduce the cost of a WinModem.
 
 And a horrible way to loose valuable PCB real estate that could have housed a
 PCI/ISA slot. A modem line interface on an L-shaped 'blech' with a cable
 to the mom board would be better IMHO. Would allow the owner to throw
 it away and put PCI/ISA expansion on the machine ;)

Ah, the K7V already has as many PCI slots as you can drive off the existing
bridge, and who wants ISA slots these days?  Oh, there is the WaveLan ISA
card I need...

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Aleksandr A.Babaylov

Narvi writes:
 On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote:
 I appreciate the KA7 PCI/ISA combo slot instead of the useless AMR thingy 
Asys
 has on their praised K7V (mind you, I like Asus as such, excellent
 experiences with them over the years).
Ugh. I was suprised that I couldn't find an Asus K7V without a stupid AMR
slot, especially since I only heard good things about the board
itself. I made an honest attempt but just ended up ordering it
anyway. I've tried to figure out what that slot does but I've only come
across market-speak.

What does it do?
   If AMR == Asus Media Slot, then it's a slot that is simultaneously PCI and
   ISA, so you can have a PCi video card and ISA soundcard on one card.
  They're about a third of the size of a PCI slot, so I don't see how that
  would be conveniant. :)
 But isn't it at the end of a PCI slot? If no, then they actually did come
 with a next stupid thing that has the same abreviation. 
You are speaking about totally another thing then AMR
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Sergey Babkin

"Nicole Harrington." wrote:
 
  Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will
 not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to
 be configured. :(

That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex soft. I have used different
Mylex cards on a few occasions (the last one was testing SCSI drivers
for my employer) and _always_ had some problems with
them. Sometimes upgrading the Mylex drivers and/or configuration
utility helps, sometimes does not. I hate Mylex terribly and would 
strongly recommend staying as far away from Mylex as possible.

-SB


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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Mike Smith

 "Nicole Harrington." wrote:
  
   Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will
  not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to
  be configured. :(
 
 That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex soft.

In this case, that's not correct.  Or at least, if it is, Adaptec, AMI, 
ICP Vortex, Compaq, IBM, Symbios and just about every other vendor of 
add-in cards with boot vector interests have a similar set of bugs.

 I have used different
 Mylex cards on a few occasions (the last one was testing SCSI drivers
 for my employer) and _always_ had some problems with
 them. Sometimes upgrading the Mylex drivers and/or configuration
 utility helps, sometimes does not. I hate Mylex terribly and would 
 strongly recommend staying as far away from Mylex as possible.

I have a lot of Mylex hardware around here (obviously enough), and I 
can't say their stuff is any worse than anyone else's.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought.. BAD ASUS Story

2000-06-09 Thread Sergey Babkin

Mike Smith wrote:
 
  "Nicole Harrington." wrote:
  
Sad to say.. I have another bad experience with the NEW asus K7A MB. It will
   not allow a Mylex AccellRaid 150 to break out of the bootup sequence to
   be configured. :(
 
  That may be as well due to the bugs in Mylex soft.
 
 In this case, that's not correct.  Or at least, if it is, Adaptec, AMI,
 ICP Vortex, Compaq, IBM, Symbios and just about every other vendor of
 add-in cards with boot vector interests have a similar set of bugs.

Then I was wrong. Sorry. Just I have seen too much problems with
the Mylex configuration utility which tends to hang at various
places to suspect it first.

-SB


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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Greg Lehey

On Friday,  9 June 2000 at 19:06:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
 On Thursday,  8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
 Wilko Bulte wrote:

 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

 EPoX == trash.  Avoid like the plague.

 Buy EPoX.  They're good.

 Greg, what model EPox do you have?

It's a 7KX.  Do they make any others for Athlon?

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-09 Thread Greg Lehey

On Saturday, 10 June 2000 at 11:02:48 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
 On Friday,  9 June 2000 at 19:06:09 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:29:45AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
 On Thursday,  8 June 2000 at 17:33:13 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
 Wilko Bulte wrote:

 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

 EPoX == trash.  Avoid like the plague.

 Buy EPoX.  They're good.

 Greg, what model EPox do you have?

 It's a 7KX.  Do they make any others for Athlon?

Correction, I see it written here as EP-7KXA.

Greg
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Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wilko Bulte

I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
$ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

Thks
Wilko

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Matthew Jacob


fl == Florins?





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RE: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Nicole Harrington.


On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
 
 Thks
 Wilko

 I have good experiences so far with the Athlon stuff. However (sad to say)
avoid the Asus MB if you need to reboot without a keyboard attached.

 So far I like the FIC and Aopen boards.

   Nicole


 
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 11:57:25AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote:
 
 fl == Florins?

Yep!

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote:
 
 On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote:
  I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
  $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
  FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.
  
  Thks
  Wilko
 
  I have good experiences so far with the Athlon stuff. However (sad to say)
 avoid the Asus MB if you need to reboot without a keyboard attached.

What ? I have no probs whatsoever with my K7M doing that...

  So far I like the FIC and Aopen boards.

Dont _ever_ buy FIC, there are no ends of trouble with them

-Søren


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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wes Peters

Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
 I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the
 $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and
 FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from.

EPoX == trash.  Avoid like the plague.

ASUS K7v == good.

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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Coleman Kane

I have heard of a few problems with the k7m... but I don't have any firsthand
experience with them. FIC on the other hand has made some pretty good
motherboards, and are probably the last company that needs to be bashed as far
as quality goes. ASUS and FIC are probably the two best mobo companies, to me
anyway, never had any trouble with either one at all. 

Soren Schmidt had the audacity to say:
 
 What ? I have no probs whatsoever with my K7M doing that...
 
   So far I like the FIC and Aopen boards.
 
 Dont _ever_ buy FIC, there are no ends of trouble with them
 
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