Re: Downloads appear broked...but work...keep hitting reload...

2001-07-27 Thread Jim Bryant

Terry Lambert wrote:
 
 Jim Bryant wrote:
  Everybody and their dog must be downloading this.  If you keep
  getting the java.lang.OutOfMemoryError, just keep hitting
  reload...  I was just about to give up when it finally worked for me.
 
 Gee, garbage collection is special.  I'm going to run right
 out and use Java in my next embedded system!
 
 -- Terry

Yeah, I couldn't understand why it wasn't just a HTTP or FTP download like on the 
community source page.  Hell, I didn't even have
to enter my username and password.  Is Sun slacking or something?  Note that the other 
stuff was via HTTP download, on the same
page.

On the other hand, Java has it's uses...  Coulda been MIX for all I'm concerned.  
Ideally, Java can run on near anything with no
source or object code modifications.  MIX, Java, whatever...  The point is that it's a 
universal language, if there ever was such a
beast.  But then again, ever read the 100% pure manual?  Kinda hard to do anything 
REALLY serious in 100% pure Java.

IMHO, universal appeal was lost when Java gained arbitrary filesystem access.  They 
could have saved it from that loss of
practicality by implementing some sort of canned scratchpad storage, that would allow 
a storage object, yet without arbitrary
filesystem access without explicit grants [CDC Cyber NOS/BE comes to mind as an ideal 
on this, and would be easily implemented]. 
The arbitrary filesystem access is the real killer when it comes to Java.  To me, GC 
is a secondary issue.

I'm not even going to go into the issues of the ability to run external system 
binaries from within Java.  Count that as yet another
primary issue.

All this is a moot point anyhow...  We is stuck with it.

PicoBSD works well for embedded systems tho, I've done that :^)  CompactFlash and a 
Simm...  Look Ma!  No spinning wheels!

jim
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He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos!

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Re: Downloads appear broked...but work...keep hitting reload...

2001-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert

Jim Bryant wrote:
 Everybody and their dog must be downloading this.  If you keep
 getting the java.lang.OutOfMemoryError, just keep hitting
 reload...  I was just about to give up when it finally worked for me.

Gee, garbage collection is special.  I'm going to run right
out and use Java in my next embedded system!

-- Terry

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Downloads appear broked...but work...keep hitting reload...

2001-07-25 Thread Jim Bryant

Jim Bryant wrote:
 
 Ron Chen wrote:
 
  Sun Grid Engine goes opensource. See SGE home page:
 
  http://www.sun.com/gridware
 
  -Ron
 
 http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2001-07/sunflash.20010723.1.html
 
 SUN MICROSYSTEMS MAKES SUN[tm] GRID ENGINE SOFTWARE AVAILABLE TO OPEN SOURCE 
COMMUNITY
 
 Sun Works with CollabNet to Continue its Strong Support of Open Computing and 
Encourage Adoption of Powerful Grid Computing Model
 
 SAN DIEGO, CA -- O'REILLY OPEN SOURCE CONVENTION -- July 23, 2001 -- Reaffirming its 
commitment to the open source movement, Sun
 Microsystems, Inc. (NASDAQ: SUNW) announced today the Sun Grid Engine Project, an 
initiative to offer the source code for Sun[tm]
 Grid Engine software to users and the developer community. Sun Grid Engine software 
is an advanced distributed resource management
 (DRM) tool. It has been available as a free download at 
www.sun.com/software/gridware since its introduction in September 2000.
 
 A leader in the open source community, Sun will add this project's half million 
lines of code to its total of more than 8 million
 lines of code already contributed to open source efforts. Sun is coordinating this 
worldwide project with CollabNet, a leading
 provider of collaborative software development solutions based on open source 
concepts, in making the code available for download at
 www.gridengine.sunsource.net.
 
 The project is designed to further remove the cost and implementation barriers 
associated with deploying DRM software in a compute
 farm. Additionally, both open source users and Sun Grid Engine software customers 
should benefit from this open source project
 through enhanced industry support. For example, service and support providers should 
be able to customize the powerful software for
 specific customer needs, and software developers should be able to reduce complexity 
for end users by creating applications that are
 tightly integrated with Sun Grid Engine software. Over time, the open source effort 
should facilitate the adoption of open standards
 for DRM software, facilitating interoperability with applications and easing 
integration.
 
 As cluster computing scales up towards grid computing, tools like Sun Grid Engine 
software will become ubiquitous and essential,
 said Tim O'Reilly, founder and CEO of technology information firm O'Reilly  
Associates. Computing is moving towards the
 development of what you might call an Internet operating system. Sun recognizes that 
key components of that operating system
 shouldn't be controlled by any one company, and they're putting their money where 
their mouth is by releasing it as open source.
 
 Sun will continue to deliver products that support our core philosophy that the 
network is the computer, said Robbie Turner, vice
 president of Client and Technical Market Products at Sun Microsystems. Sun is 
encouraging the grid computing model via free
 downloads of Sun Grid Engine software--and now by making its code available to the 
open source community--because the productivity
 gains of the grid computing model will increasingly serve as a decisive factor in a 
business's ultimate success or failure.
 
 CollabNet is providing the Web infrastructure and comprehensive development platform 
that enables geographically dispersed groups of
 developers to collaborate on Grid Engine projects. Based on CollabNet's SourceCast 
environment, this platform includes tools for
 revision control, issue tracking, mailing list creation and management, and 
Web-based administration. This open source project
 follows on the heels of the successful OpenOffice.org initiative--also supported by 
CollabNet--which made available the source code
 for Sun's StarOffice[tm] software under the same industry-accepted Sun Industry 
Standards Source License. Full details of Sun's
 involvement with open source projects can be seen at www.sunsource.net.
 
 The Grid Engine Project continues to demonstrate Sun's true leadership within the 
open source community, said Brian Behlendorf,
 co-founder and CTO of CollabNet. CollabNet is delighted to be working with Sun on 
yet more compelling open source software. Sun's
 decision to open this previously proprietary software demonstrates its understanding 
of the technical community's fundamental need
 and interest in scalable DRM technology.
 
 Delivering Network-Wide Compute Power to the Desktop
 
 Sun Grid Engine software was introduced in September 2000 as the first product 
resulting from Sun's acquisition of Gridware,
 formerly a privately-owned commercial vendor of advanced DRM software tools. Since 
then, the software has been downloaded nearly
 8,000 times in more than 90 countries. A comprehensive web-based training course for 
installing and managing the software is also
 available at no cost at www.sun.com/software/gridware. By distributing Sun Grid 
Engine software as a free download and with all Sun
 systems, Sun is changing the economics of technical