Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:23:25PM +0300, Stas D.Myasnikov wrote: Hello! While doing 'make world' I used make.conf with couple on 'NO_*=yes', e.g. NO_KERBEROS=yes (I don't need Kerberos on my home computer). But after rebuilding world and install I saw the old binaries, configs, etc. of Kerberos and other parts of base that I didn't build. I had thought that install script removes all unneeded files, but it don't. How can I clean out this old binaries, configs, etc?.. Is there any automatic way to do this? I routinely use find(1) and some secret knowledge about files that do not change their timestamps between installworlds to clean up stale files. Fortunately there are not too much files that install with -C, less in 5.x than in 4.x. Also, Warner Losh worked on a project that would allow to remove files obsoleted between releases. I don't know what the current status of this project is, or if it's still alive. ;) Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD committer pgpuYagGAVB4Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
On Friday 30 July 2004 08:56, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:23:25PM +0300, Stas D.Myasnikov wrote: Hello! While doing 'make world' I used make.conf with couple on 'NO_*=yes', e.g. NO_KERBEROS=yes (I don't need Kerberos on my home computer). But after rebuilding world and install I saw the old binaries, configs, etc. of Kerberos and other parts of base that I didn't build. I had thought that install script removes all unneeded files, but it don't. How can I clean out this old binaries, configs, etc?.. Is there any automatic way to do this? I routinely use find(1) and some secret knowledge about files that do not change their timestamps between installworlds to clean up stale files. Fortunately there are not too much files that install with -C, less in 5.x than in 4.x. Also, Warner Losh worked on a project that would allow to remove files obsoleted between releases. I don't know what the current status of this project is, or if it's still alive. ;) I am wondering, would it be possible to (automatically) create pkg-plist info for the NO_* targets in make.conf? We could put that into the ports-tree somewhere and if you'd like to remove something completely you can install the dummy port pkg-plist and use pkg_delete to clean up. It seems to me that it might be possible to add some kind of Makefile hint variables (i.e. define a variable in Makefiles/targets that depend on NO_*) that'd help to generate filelists for the NO_* targets. If this is the case it should be possible to place pkg descriptions into /var/db/pkg during the installworld pass. This would also make it easy to get rid of things after a CDROM install. What do you think? -- /\ Best regards, | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News pgpOOPXMxoyYU.pgp Description: signature
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
At 02:17 30/07/2004, Max Laier wrote: I am wondering, would it be possible to (automatically) create pkg-plist info for the NO_* targets in make.conf? We could put that into the ports-tree somewhere and if you'd like to remove something completely you can install the dummy port pkg-plist and use pkg_delete to clean up. It seems to me that it might be possible to add some kind of Makefile hint variables (i.e. define a variable in Makefiles/targets that depend on NO_*) that'd help to generate filelists for the NO_* targets. If this is the case it should be possible to place pkg descriptions into /var/db/pkg during the installworld pass. This would also make it easy to get rid of things after a CDROM install. In March, I posted to freebsd-current (subject: Nuking parts of the world) offering a patch which makes it possible to remove some subsystems: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?6.0.1.1.1.20040316023919.039fa5f0 Colin Percival ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
Max Laier wrote: On Friday 30 July 2004 08:56, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:23:25PM +0300, Stas D.Myasnikov wrote: While doing 'make world' I used make.conf with couple on 'NO_*=yes', e.g. NO_KERBEROS=yes (I don't need Kerberos on my home computer). But after rebuilding world and install I saw the old binaries, configs, etc. of Kerberos and other parts of base that I didn't build. I had thought that install script removes all unneeded files, but it don't. How can I clean out this old binaries, configs, etc?.. Is there any automatic way to do this? I routinely use find(1) and some secret knowledge about files that do not change their timestamps between installworlds to clean up stale files. Fortunately there are not too much files that install with -C, less in 5.x than in 4.x. Also, Warner Losh worked on a project that would allow to remove files obsoleted between releases. I don't know what the current status of this project is, or if it's still alive. ;) I am wondering, would it be possible to (automatically) create pkg-plist info for the NO_* targets in make.conf? We could put that into the ports-tree somewhere and if you'd like to remove something completely you can install the dummy port pkg-plist and use pkg_delete to clean up. This resembles linux RPMs for system files. And the idea is not bad. Having system files registered just like ports would make it easier some operations, including binary upgrade. I think the ports system needs some work before this would be feasible, though. IIRC, Solaris also registers system files with the same mechanism used for applications. It seems to me that it might be possible to add some kind of Makefile hint variables (i.e. define a variable in Makefiles/targets that depend on NO_*) that'd help to generate filelists for the NO_* targets. If this is the case it should be possible to place pkg descriptions into /var/db/pkg during the installworld pass. This would also make it easy to get rid of things after a CDROM install. What do you think? I think the problem deserves attention, and any implementation tests are welcome. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
At 10:23 PM +0300 7/20/04, Stas D.Myasnikov wrote: ... I had thought that install script removes all unneeded files, but it don't. How can I clean out this old binaries, configs, etc?.. Is there any automatic way to do this? You can: make cleanworld which does a fairly decent job of getting rid of all the old files in your build area (e.g., in /usr/obj/usr/src). However, I am not sure if you are asking for more than that. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
At 10:23 PM +0300 7/20/04, Stas D.Myasnikov wrote: ... I had thought that install script removes all unneeded files, but it don't. How can I clean out this old binaries, configs, etc?.. Is there any automatic way to do this? You can: make cleanworld which does a fairly decent job of getting rid of all the old files in your build area (e.g., in /usr/obj/usr/src). That only cleans out the /usr/obj directory tree. It doesn't remove any files from anywhere else in the system. However, I am not sure if you are asking for more than that. He wants to install FreeBSD, edit make.conf and uncomment a bunch of NO_* variables to prevent them from being built/install during a world build, and wants to have a way to remove the existing files from /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, etc. Check the How-To forum at http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/ One of the members there posted a set of scripts that will parse the NO_* variables in make.conf, and remove any and all files associated with those subsystems from an installed system. The end result is the same as building a custom release and reinstalling using that release to only get the bits you want, but without all the hassle of building a custom release. :) -- Freddie Cash, CCNT CCLPHelpdesk / Network Support Tech. School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to clean out old files after 'make world'?
Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:56:45 -0700 (PDT), Freddie Cash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The end result is the same as building a custom release and reinstalling using that release to only get the bits you want, but without all the hassle of building a custom release. :) Thanx! It's exactly what I want! -- !- http://www.july21.info ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
