Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-18 Thread Sue Blake

On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 02:27:31PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote:

> If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards
> in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like
> they're any good to me without OS support.
> 
> Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards:
> 
>   3Com 3c503ISA
>   DEC EtherworksISA
>   DEC DE205 ISA
>   SMC EtherEZ   ISA
>   RealTek "TP-Link" PCI

That's great, thank you! :-)

When I had similar problems, I searched the web site for relevant PRs
and found that although the problem wasn't widely known, I was not alone.

As far as the DEC cards go, see PR misc/18641, we have been
trying to get some old DEC cards to Paul Richards so that he can work
on a fix for the le(4) driver, but fate keeps getting in the way.
(BTW, I'm using these fine with FreeBSD 3.3 but 3.5 and above don't work)

Please contact Paul if you can arrange to send the DEC cards to the UK.

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RE: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-14 Thread Koster, K.J.

> 
> Ok, "seem to have lost support" is about the vaguest thing you could
> have said. I've killed people for less.
>
I'm too young to die. Sorry for the lack of detail. I should have known
better.

>
> Please explain in detail how
> you arrived at the conclusion that the card was no longer supported.
> Show us the dmesg output from your machine. Explain what you tried to
> do and what results you observed. Don't just say "it doesn't work."
> You've not going to help anyone that way.
>
4.0 detects my card, prints the ethernet address during the probe, and
actually transmits data when asked to do so. DHCP configures the card, etc.

4.2 detects the card, but does *not* find its ethernet address and the DHCP
probe simply never returns, although the machine responds to keypresses to
break the installation.

>
> Did you check to see if a pcn0 device was detected? Did you attempt
> to use it?
>
No.

>
> If not, why not?
>
I did not know it was there.

> 
> >   SMC EtherEZ   ISA
> 
> Should also work with the ed driver, though you may have to turn off
> plug and play mode using the SMC EZSetup utility.
>
I will try this.

>
> >   RealTek "TP-Link" PCI
> 
> If this is a 10mbps card, it should be an NE2000 clone, and will work
> with the ed driver. If it's a 100Mbps card, it should work with the
> rl driver.
>
Like I said: it probes, works for a bit, then drops the line and needs a
power-cycle. I have two, one of them is available for an individual who
wants to hack at it, the other one will serve as a cupholder after I've
stomped on it for a bit, otherwise the cups keep falling over.

>  
> > I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix 
> the problem of
> > the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to 
> work on it.
> 
> I'd be happier if you told me whether the pcn driver works or not.
> 
Will try. Please hold ...

Kees Jan


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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Nate Williams wrote:
> > :   3Com 3c503ISA
> > 
> > I think so.  The ed driver supports this
> 
> I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503.  I think we
> dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...)

How difficult is it to check the source?

The 3c503 is supported.

You're thinking of the 3c501 and the 3c505.

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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Nate Williams

> > > :   3Com 3c503ISA
> > > 
> > > I think so.  The ed driver supports this
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503.  I think we
> > dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...)
> 
> You are probably confusing it with the 501 or 505.  The 503 is basically 
> an NE1000 (with a better probe routine).

You're indeed correct.  It was the 501 that we dropped support for,
sorry for the false information.



Nate


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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Mike Smith

> > :   3Com 3c503ISA
> > 
> > I think so.  The ed driver supports this
> 
> I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503.  I think we
> dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...)

You are probably confusing it with the 501 or 505.  The 503 is basically 
an NE1000 (with a better probe routine).

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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Nate Williams

> :   3Com 3c503ISA
> 
> I think so.  The ed driver supports this

I'm pretty sure the ed driver doesn't support the 503.  I think we
dropped support for the 503 a *REALLY* long time ago (2.1 days...)

> :   DEC EtherworksISA
> :   DEC DE205 ISA
> 
> don't know about these.  lnc driver supports them maybe ?

Use to be the le driver supported them, but apparently it's broken now.




Nate


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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Bill Paul

[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> Dear All,
> 
> Last night I cvsupped my trusty old Compaq Deskpro XL 6200 from 4.0-release
> to 4.2-beta. As part of that process, I seem to have lost support for the
> on-board NIC (lnc0: PCNet/PCI Ethernet Adapter, PC-net-32 VL-Bus).

Ok, "seem to have lost support" is about the vaguest thing you could
have said. I've killed people for less. Please explain in detail how
you arrived at the conclusion that the card was no longer supported.
Show us the dmesg output from your machine. Explain what you tried to
do and what results you observed. Don't just say "it doesn't work."
You've not going to help anyone that way.

FreeBSD 4.2 has a new driver for AMD PCnet/PCI devices, in particular
the 10/100 cards, because the lnc driver runs these cards in 16-bit
LANCE compatibility mode which really impairs their performance. Did
you check to see if a pcn0 device was detected? Did you attempt to
use it? If not, why not? If so, what happened?

> What is the newest version of FreeBSD that will propely support that card?

You're soaking in it.
 
> If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards
> in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like
> they're any good to me without OS support.
> 
> Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards:
> 
>   3Com 3c503ISA

Should work with the ed driver, *provided* you get its I/O address set
correctly so that the ed driver will detect it. I haven't used one of
these since FreeBSD 2.x though.

>   DEC EtherworksISA
>   DEC DE205 ISA

Don't know about these.

>   SMC EtherEZ   ISA

Should also work with the ed driver, though you may have to turn off
plug and play mode using the SMC EZSetup utility.

>   RealTek "TP-Link" PCI

If this is a 10mbps card, it should be an NE2000 clone, and will work
with the ed driver. If it's a 100Mbps card, it should work with the
rl driver.
 
> I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of
> the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it.

I'd be happier if you told me whether the pcn driver works or not.

-Bill 


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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Koster, 
K.J." writes:
:   3Com 3c503ISA

I think so.  The ed driver supports this

:   DEC EtherworksISA
:   DEC DE205 ISA

don't know about these.  lnc driver supports them maybe ?

:   SMC EtherEZ   ISA

ed driver.

:   RealTek "TP-Link" PCI

Don't know about this one.

: As far as I've been able to determine, none of these work properly. In
: particular, the RealTek card gets detected and pretends to work, but loses
: the link after a bit (The link status LED goes out, and I need to reboot the
: box.)

Read Bill Paul's glowing reviews of the realtek hardware in the rl
driver :-)

Warner


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Re: Legacy ethernet cards in FreeBSD

2000-11-10 Thread Thierry Herbelot

"Koster, K.J." wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Last night I cvsupped my trusty old Compaq Deskpro XL 6200 from 4.0-release
> to 4.2-beta. As part of that process, I seem to have lost support for the
> on-board NIC (lnc0: PCNet/PCI Ethernet Adapter, PC-net-32 VL-Bus).
> 
> What is the newest version of FreeBSD that will propely support that card?
> 
> If there are people who are cleaning up the support for older network cards
> in FreeBSD I'd like to help out by sending you my old NICs. It's not like
> they're any good to me without OS support.
> 
> Please contact me off-list for any of the following cards:
> 
>   3Com 3c503ISA

should be ok with the ed driver, for correct values of irq and io range

>   DEC EtherworksISA
>   DEC DE205 ISA
>   SMC EtherEZ   ISA

ditto

>   RealTek "TP-Link" PCI
> 
> As far as I've been able to determine, none of these work properly. In
> particular, the RealTek card gets detected and pretends to work, but loses
> the link after a bit (The link status LED goes out, and I need to reboot the
> box.)
> 
> I'll be happy to try out patches for the lnc driver to fix the problem of
> the Deskpro, or to give remote access to it if you want to work on it.
> 
> Kees Jan

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