Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Doug

Mike Smith wrote:
 
  On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
 
   'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
   reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to
   guess what is going on.
 
D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
  state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box.
 
 Dang.  Now I need that stack dump from amd that you posted and I
 deleted. 

OK, sent under different cover. 

 Specifically, it'd be handy to know why amd felt it was
 necessary to open the console.

Yeah, I'm kind of curious myself. BTW, I was going to work on this some
more today, but the boss thought that putting the box into production was
more important. The good news is that under real world load my freebsd box
had 20-40% free cpu and a load average of 1.5. With load as equal as the
switch could make it, the linux box had no free cpu and a load average of
8. :) I also (finally) got the approval to install freebsd on the fourth
box (there are already two linux machines up) so A) I'm making progress in
the office, and B) I should have a chance to pound on the syslog stuff
tomorrow. 

Happy,

Doug


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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Mike Smith
 On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
 
  'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
  reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to 
  guess what is going on.
 
   D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
 state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box. 

Dang.  Now I need that stack dump from amd that you posted and I 
deleted.  Specifically, it'd be handy to know why amd felt it was 
necessary to open the console.

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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Doug
Mike Smith wrote:
 
  On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
 
   'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
   reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to
   guess what is going on.
 
D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
  state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box.
 
 Dang.  Now I need that stack dump from amd that you posted and I
 deleted. 

OK, sent under different cover. 

 Specifically, it'd be handy to know why amd felt it was
 necessary to open the console.

Yeah, I'm kind of curious myself. BTW, I was going to work on this some
more today, but the boss thought that putting the box into production was
more important. The good news is that under real world load my freebsd box
had 20-40% free cpu and a load average of 1.5. With load as equal as the
switch could make it, the linux box had no free cpu and a load average of
8. :) I also (finally) got the approval to install freebsd on the fourth
box (there are already two linux machines up) so A) I'm making progress in
the office, and B) I should have a chance to pound on the syslog stuff
tomorrow. 

Happy,

Doug


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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Gregory Sutter
On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 10:56:05PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
  
   'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
   reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to 
   guess what is going on.
  
  D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
  state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box. 
 
 Dang.  Now I need that stack dump from amd that you posted and I 
 deleted.  Specifically, it'd be handy to know why amd felt it was 
 necessary to open the console.

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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-14 Thread Mike Smith

 On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
 
  'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
  reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to 
  guess what is going on.
 
   D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
 state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box. 

Dang.  Now I need that stack dump from amd that you posted and I 
deleted.  Specifically, it'd be handy to know why amd felt it was 
necessary to open the console.

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RE: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-13 Thread Doug

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote:

   I don't know if your diagnosis was in jest,

Yes it was, but thank you for asking. :) I should have known
better than to attempt subtle humor at the end of a long, tiring day.

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Matthew Dillon

:
:   So I started thinking that maybe the problem was actually in
:syslog (or amd's interface to it). So I disabled the following two options
:in my amd.conf file:
:
:log_file =  syslog:local7
:log_options =all
:
:   And lo and behold, it worked like a charm. I was able to run my
:conf-building script for my web server 20 times in a row with no ill
:effects. Previously the best I could do was 3 times before it hung. 
:
:   After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
:logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
:turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
:similar traceback.
:
:   If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. 
:
:Doug

Are you syslogging to the console by any chance?  Try messing around
with /etc/syslog.conf and see if just plain file logging prevents the
lockup -- you could even try turning off all logging (but leaving syslog
running, i.e. turning it into a sink-null) to see if that has an effect.

-Matt
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Mike Smith

   After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
 the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
 this:
 
 On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:
 
  Ok, got another hang in "siobi" state (this time after it
  successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:

'siobi' is in sioopen() in the sio driver.  The callout device is 
already open, but the caller is trying to open it in blocking mode.  
It'd be useful to know what is hanging in 'siobi' here, since trying to 
re-open the console is a bit of a suspicious action.

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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 :
 : So I started thinking that maybe the problem was actually in
 :syslog (or amd's interface to it). So I disabled the following two options
 :in my amd.conf file:
 :
 :log_file =  syslog:local7
 :log_options =all
 :
 : And lo and behold, it worked like a charm. I was able to run my
 :conf-building script for my web server 20 times in a row with no ill
 :effects. Previously the best I could do was 3 times before it hung. 
 :
 : After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
 :logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
 :turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
 :similar traceback.
 :
 : If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. 
 :
 :Doug
 
 Are you syslogging to the console by any chance? 

Here is syslog.conf:

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
*.notice;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages
mail.info   /var/log/maillog
lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
cron.*  /var/cron/log
*.err   root
*.notice;news.err   root
*.alert root
*.emerg *

local7.*/var/log/amd.log

Basically, it's what comes with the system plus that line for
local7. I am using a serial console setup for this box, but as far as I
could see from the logs amd did generate there were no events at *.err
priority, or to the kern facility, so nothing should have been printed to
the serial console. Also, just in case it matters I start syslogd with
-svv flags in rc.conf. 


  Try messing around
 with /etc/syslog.conf and see if just plain file logging prevents the
 lockup -- you could even try turning off all logging (but leaving syslog
 running, i.e. turning it into a sink-null) to see if that has an effect.

I have to admit that you lost me here. Normal syslog stuff is
working just fine (where "normal" is freebsd system stuff), it's amd that
locks up. It's been kind of a hectic day here, in addition to this problem
so I might just be a little dense. Can you explain in more detail what
you'd like me to try?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

  After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
  the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
  this:
  
  On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:
  
 Ok, got another hang in "siobi" state (this time after it
   successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:
 
 'siobi' is in sioopen() in the sio driver.  The callout device is 
 already open, but the caller is trying to open it in blocking mode.  
 It'd be useful to know what is hanging in 'siobi' here, since trying to 
 re-open the console is a bit of a suspicious action.

I'm using a serial console, but I directed local7 to a file in
syslog.conf. But from what you're saying it sounds like the serial console
is a suspect?

Doug
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RE: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote:

   I don't know if your diagnosis was in jest,

Yes it was, but thank you for asking. :) I should have known
better than to attempt subtle humor at the end of a long, tiring day.

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
this:

On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:

   Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it
 successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:
 
 (gdb) file /usr/sbin/amd
 Reading symbols from /usr/sbin/amd...done.
 (gdb) attach 155
 Attaching to program: /usr/sbin/amd, process 155
 0x8063dc4 in open ()
 (gdb) where
 #0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
 #1  0x806b5c3 in vsyslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s, ap=0xbfbfb240 X)
 at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:262
 #2  0x806b2c2 in syslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s)
 at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:130
 #3  0x805a3d8 in real_plog (lvl=6,
 fmt=0x8091ea0 recompute_portmap: NFS version %d, vargs=0xbfbfba7c
 \002)
 at
 /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:443
 #4  0x805a2be in plog (lvl=16,
 fmt=0x8091ea0 recompute_portmap: NFS version %d)
 at
 /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:383

So I started thinking that maybe the problem was actually in
syslog (or amd's interface to it). So I disabled the following two options
in my amd.conf file:

log_file =  syslog:local7
log_options =all

And lo and behold, it worked like a charm. I was able to run my
conf-building script for my web server 20 times in a row with no ill
effects. Previously the best I could do was 3 times before it hung. 

After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
similar traceback.

If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. 

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:20:55 MST, Doug wrote:

   After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
 logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
 turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
 similar traceback.

Sheesh, Mark Murray wasn't kidding when he told me that AMD tickles
bugs. Of course, I thought he meant that it tickles bugs in our NFS
code. :-)

This discovery sounds like a real step forward.

Ciao,
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
:
:   So I started thinking that maybe the problem was actually in
:syslog (or amd's interface to it). So I disabled the following two options
:in my amd.conf file:
:
:log_file =  syslog:local7
:log_options =all
:
:   And lo and behold, it worked like a charm. I was able to run my
:conf-building script for my web server 20 times in a row with no ill
:effects. Previously the best I could do was 3 times before it hung. 
:
:   After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
:logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
:turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
:similar traceback.
:
:   If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. 
:
:Doug

Are you syslogging to the console by any chance?  Try messing around
with /etc/syslog.conf and see if just plain file logging prevents the
lockup -- you could even try turning off all logging (but leaving syslog
running, i.e. turning it into a sink-null) to see if that has an effect.

-Matt
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Mike Smith
   After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
 the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
 this:
 
 On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:
 
  Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it
  successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:

'siobi' is in sioopen() in the sio driver.  The callout device is 
already open, but the caller is trying to open it in blocking mode.  
It'd be useful to know what is hanging in 'siobi' here, since trying to 
re-open the console is a bit of a suspicious action.

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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 :
 : So I started thinking that maybe the problem was actually in
 :syslog (or amd's interface to it). So I disabled the following two options
 :in my amd.conf file:
 :
 :log_file =  syslog:local7
 :log_options =all
 :
 : And lo and behold, it worked like a charm. I was able to run my
 :conf-building script for my web server 20 times in a row with no ill
 :effects. Previously the best I could do was 3 times before it hung. 
 :
 : After confirming that it worked with no logging, I tried enabling
 :logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After
 :turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very
 :similar traceback.
 :
 : If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. 
 :
 :Doug
 
 Are you syslogging to the console by any chance? 

Here is syslog.conf:

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
*.notice;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages
mail.info   /var/log/maillog
lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
cron.*  /var/cron/log
*.err   root
*.notice;news.err   root
*.alert root
*.emerg *

local7.*/var/log/amd.log

Basically, it's what comes with the system plus that line for
local7. I am using a serial console setup for this box, but as far as I
could see from the logs amd did generate there were no events at *.err
priority, or to the kern facility, so nothing should have been printed to
the serial console. Also, just in case it matters I start syslogd with
-svv flags in rc.conf. 


  Try messing around
 with /etc/syslog.conf and see if just plain file logging prevents the
 lockup -- you could even try turning off all logging (but leaving syslog
 running, i.e. turning it into a sink-null) to see if that has an effect.

I have to admit that you lost me here. Normal syslog stuff is
working just fine (where normal is freebsd system stuff), it's amd that
locks up. It's been kind of a hectic day here, in addition to this problem
so I might just be a little dense. Can you explain in more detail what
you'd like me to try?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

  After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
  the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
  this:
  
  On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:
  
 Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it
   successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:
 
 'siobi' is in sioopen() in the sio driver.  The callout device is 
 already open, but the caller is trying to open it in blocking mode.  
 It'd be useful to know what is hanging in 'siobi' here, since trying to 
 re-open the console is a bit of a suspicious action.

I'm using a serial console, but I directed local7 to a file in
syslog.conf. But from what you're saying it sounds like the serial console
is a suspect?

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Mike Smith
 On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:
 
 After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to
   the  MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like
   this:
   
   On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:
   
Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it
successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:
  
  'siobi' is in sioopen() in the sio driver.  The callout device is 
  already open, but the caller is trying to open it in blocking mode.  
  It'd be useful to know what is hanging in 'siobi' here, since trying to 
  re-open the console is a bit of a suspicious action.
 
   I'm using a serial console, but I directed local7 to a file in
 syslog.conf. But from what you're saying it sounds like the serial console
 is a suspect?

'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to 
guess what is going on.

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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Matthew Dillon
:*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
:*.notice;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages
:mail.info   /var/log/maillog
:lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
:cron.*  /var/cron/log
:*.err   root
:*.notice;news.err   root
:*.alert root
:*.emerg *
:
:local7.*/var/log/amd.log
:
:   Basically, it's what comes with the system plus that line for
:local7. I am using a serial console setup for this box, but as far as I
:could see from the logs amd did generate there were no events at *.err
:priority, or to the kern facility, so nothing should have been printed to
:the serial console. Also, just in case it matters I start syslogd with
:-svv flags in rc.conf. 
:
:
:  Try messing around
: with /etc/syslog.conf and see if just plain file logging prevents the
: lockup -- you could even try turning off all logging (but leaving syslog
: running, i.e. turning it into a sink-null) to see if that has an effect.
:
:   I have to admit that you lost me here. Normal syslog stuff is
:working just fine (where normal is freebsd system stuff), it's amd that
:locks up. It's been kind of a hectic day here, in addition to this problem
:so I might just be a little dense. Can you explain in more detail what
:you'd like me to try?
:
:Thanks,
:
:Doug

Comment the whole thing out, kill -HUP the syslogd (or kill and restart
it), and see if amd still locks up.  If it does not, add the file lines
(/var/*) back in, restart, and see if amd locks up.  If it does not,
add the /dev/console line back in, restart, and see if amd locks up.
If it does not, add the root and * entries back in and see if amd
locks up.  And so forth.

We may find that there is something inherently broken with syslogd
that is causing the lockup even with all entries commented out, or
we may well find that it is a certain line, such as the /dev/console,
root, or * line for emergency messages that is causing amd to lockup.

-Matt
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote:

 'siobi' is someone trying to open the serial console, for whatever
 reason. Without knowing who it was that was stuck there, it's hard to 
 guess what is going on.

D'uh, sorry. Long day. It was amd that was hung in the siobi
state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box. 

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

 Comment the whole thing out, kill -HUP the syslogd (or kill and restart
 it), and see if amd still locks up.

Ok, now I think I get it. You want me to enable syslog'ing in amd,
then do what you're talking about here. I will try this first thing
tomorrow morning. We're about to put the box into production to make sure
that the bug is really licked, then I'm about to go home. :)  We have
multiple machines in this configuration, so taking this one down tomorrow
should be no problem. 

  If it does not, add the file lines
 (/var/*) back in, restart, and see if amd locks up.  If it does not,
 add the /dev/console line back in, restart, and see if amd locks up.
 If it does not, add the root and * entries back in and see if amd
 locks up.  And so forth.

Gotcha. 

 We may find that there is something inherently broken with syslogd
 that is causing the lockup even with all entries commented out, or
 we may well find that it is a certain line, such as the /dev/console,
 root, or * line for emergency messages that is causing amd to lockup.

I think that Mike Smith is on the right track in suspecting that
the serial console is involved (due to the siobi state that amd was
hanging in). However, which line of the syslog.conf that was causing that
is a darn good question, given that none of them *should* have been
involved. 

Thanks for all the great suggestions,

Doug
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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug

On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:

   In my continuing efforts to get this freebsd box into shape for
 web hosting at my company (where it relies exclusively on NFS for
 retrieving customer data) I've been making progress thanks to some recent
 commits by Peter. Now I can run the heavy duty NFS access script and it
 completes its mission about 2 out of 3 times. Also, now when it fails it
 doesn't lock the whole box, just amd. Still not where I want it to be, but
 it is definitely big progress. :)
 
   What happens when it hangs is that amd becomes totally wedged. I
 cannot do 'df' or 'ls /' at all (the amd mountpoints are on /), and
 killing the amd process is no help; I have to reboot the box. Ktrace'ing
 amd at this point gets me nothing. The ktrace process just dies and leaves
 a 0 byte ktrace.out file. (BTW, I am also still having problems with
 ktrace exiting while the process is still running when I actually get it
 to attach, if anyone cares.) 

Still working on this problem. Thanks to some suggestions I got
off the list, I have compiled libc and amd with debugging symbols. I
wedged the box the same way I have previously, by running a perl script
that automounts a directory, reads 250 files in that directory, automounts
another one, etc. for a total of 68 directories. 

Using today's current this time amd wedged in the following state
according to top:

  155 root3   0   736K   520K siobi  1   0:21  0.00%  0.00% amd

Here is the trace after killing it:

Core was generated by `amd'.
Program terminated with signal 3, Quit.
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
#1  0x806b5c3 in vsyslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a "%s", ap=0xbfbfd2c0 "")
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:262
#2  0x806b2c2 in syslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a "%s")
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:130
#3  0x805a3d8 in real_plog (lvl=6,
fmt=0x8091440 "prime_nfs_fhandle_cache: NFS version %d",
vargs=0xbfbfdafc "\002")
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:443
#4  0x805a2be in plog (lvl=16,
fmt=0x8091440 "prime_nfs_fhandle_cache: NFS version %d")
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:383
#5  0x805323a in prime_nfs_fhandle_cache (path=0x80cb287
"/Space/209.132.66",
fs=0x80b5640, fhbuf=0xbfbfdb34, wchan=0x80b57c0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:262
#6  0x805363f in nfs_init (mf=0x80b57c0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:542
#7  0x804a7f9 in amfs_auto_bgmount (cp=0x80c8600, mpe=0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amfs_auto.c:676
#8  0x804a4bc in amfs_auto_retry (rc=0, term=0, closure=0x80c8600)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amfs_auto.c:402
#9  0x8055212 in do_task_notify ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/sched.c:239
#10 0x804df6d in softclock ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/clock.c:212
#11 0x8052583 in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:253
#12 0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=154)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#13 0x804a109 in main (argc=4, argv=0xbfbfddec)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#14 0x80480e9 in _start ()

I'm going to work on attaching it with gdb while it's locked next. 

Also based on advice I've made some changes to my configuration
files, although it didn't help the 'ls /' or 'df' problems.

Thanks for any help,

Doug
-- 
On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only
nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter
what it does.
-- Will Rogers


[ global ]
# Only search for maps of this type
map_type =   file

# Search this path for maps
search_path =/etc

# Use this directory for amd's private mount points
auto_dir =   /usr/amd/realmounts

# Log all activity to syslog (daemon)
log_file =  syslog:local7
log_options =all

# Check /etc/hosts for hostnames
normalize_hostnames =   yes

# Lock the amd process into memory, improves perf.
plock = yes

# Use the special /default entry in maps
selectors_on_default =   yes

# DEFINE AN AMD MOUNT POINT
[ /usr/amd/Interfaces ]
map_name =  amd.Interfaces

[ /usr/amd/Hold ]
map_name =  amd.Hold


 32# more /etc/amd.Interfaces

/defaults type:=nfs;opts:=rw,vers=2,intr,proto=udp,noconn

209.132.4   netapp01:/vol/Space/209.132.4
*   rhost:=IP${key};rfs:=/Space/${key}




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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug

Ok, it's now wedged in a different state (using the same perl
script to wedge it). According to top:

  317 root2   0   648K   456K STOP   0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% amd

I also managed to attach to the running process this time:

(gdb) file /usr/sbin/amd
Reading symbols from /usr/sbin/amd...done.
(gdb) attach 317
Attaching to program: /usr/sbin/amd, process 317
0x8063c34 in select ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063c34 in select ()
#1  0x80523b6 in do_select (smask=0, fds=1024, fdp=0xbfbfd990,
tvp=0xbfbfd984)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:146
#2  0x80525fd in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:274
#3  0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=316)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#4  0x804a109 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbfdb84)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#5  0x80480e9 in _start ()


I am noticing that the last function, _start() is the same as in
the last traceback. 

Anyone with suggestions, I'm open to them. :) I tried doing
'continue' with gdb and it wedged gdb and amd, so I just rebooted.

HTH,

Doug



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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On 10 Jul 1999 12:56:41 -0400, R. Matthew Emerson wrote:

 I thought that it was almost never proper to soft-mount rw filesytems.
 Am I mistaken about this?

I must admit, it sounds like sensible advice. The only NFS exports which
I have to rely on are read-only mounts. The only time I soft-mounted a
read-write export was when I was mucking around with buildworld over
NFS, and it didn't cause me problems then.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-12 Thread Doug

Ok, got another hang in "siobi" state (this time after it
successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:

(gdb) file /usr/sbin/amd
Reading symbols from /usr/sbin/amd...done.
(gdb) attach 155
Attaching to program: /usr/sbin/amd, process 155
0x8063dc4 in open ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
#1  0x806b5c3 in vsyslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a "%s", ap=0xbfbfb240 "X")
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:262
#2  0x806b2c2 in syslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a "%s")
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:130
#3  0x805a3d8 in real_plog (lvl=6,
fmt=0x8091ea0 "recompute_portmap: NFS version %d", vargs=0xbfbfba7c
"\002")
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:443
#4  0x805a2be in plog (lvl=16,
fmt=0x8091ea0 "recompute_portmap: NFS version %d")
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:383
#5  0x80556f8 in recompute_portmap (fs=0x80c9f80)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/srvr_nfs.c:285
#6  0x80559ff in nfs_srvr_port (fs=0x80c9f80, port=0xbfbfbabe, wchan=0x0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/srvr_nfs.c:564
#7  0x80534cd in call_mountd (fp=0xbfbfdb24, proc=3, f=0, wchan=0x0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:438
#8  0x8053a3d in nfs_umounted (mp=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:796
#9  0x804dd4f in am_unmounted (mp=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/autil.c:366
#10 0x8050b22 in free_map_if_success (rc=0, term=0, closure=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/map.c:924
#11 0x8055212 in do_task_notify ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/sched.c:239
#12 0x804df6d in softclock ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/clock.c:212
#13 0x8052583 in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:253
#14 0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=154)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#15 0x804a109 in main (argc=4, argv=0xbfbfddec)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#16 0x80480e9 in _start ()

I'm going to have a go at the code now that I can be fairly
certain that _start() is the culprit. (Please everyone, stop laughing,
thanks. :) 

Comments or suggestions welcome.

Doug



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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote:

   In my continuing efforts to get this freebsd box into shape for
 web hosting at my company (where it relies exclusively on NFS for
 retrieving customer data) I've been making progress thanks to some recent
 commits by Peter. Now I can run the heavy duty NFS access script and it
 completes its mission about 2 out of 3 times. Also, now when it fails it
 doesn't lock the whole box, just amd. Still not where I want it to be, but
 it is definitely big progress. :)
 
   What happens when it hangs is that amd becomes totally wedged. I
 cannot do 'df' or 'ls /' at all (the amd mountpoints are on /), and
 killing the amd process is no help; I have to reboot the box. Ktrace'ing
 amd at this point gets me nothing. The ktrace process just dies and leaves
 a 0 byte ktrace.out file. (BTW, I am also still having problems with
 ktrace exiting while the process is still running when I actually get it
 to attach, if anyone cares.) 

Still working on this problem. Thanks to some suggestions I got
off the list, I have compiled libc and amd with debugging symbols. I
wedged the box the same way I have previously, by running a perl script
that automounts a directory, reads 250 files in that directory, automounts
another one, etc. for a total of 68 directories. 

Using today's current this time amd wedged in the following state
according to top:

  155 root3   0   736K   520K siobi  1   0:21  0.00%  0.00% amd

Here is the trace after killing it:

Core was generated by `amd'.
Program terminated with signal 3, Quit.
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
#1  0x806b5c3 in vsyslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s, ap=0xbfbfd2c0 )
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:262
#2  0x806b2c2 in syslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s)
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:130
#3  0x805a3d8 in real_plog (lvl=6,
fmt=0x8091440 prime_nfs_fhandle_cache: NFS version %d,
vargs=0xbfbfdafc \002)
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:443
#4  0x805a2be in plog (lvl=16,
fmt=0x8091440 prime_nfs_fhandle_cache: NFS version %d)
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:383
#5  0x805323a in prime_nfs_fhandle_cache (path=0x80cb287
/Space/209.132.66,
fs=0x80b5640, fhbuf=0xbfbfdb34, wchan=0x80b57c0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:262
#6  0x805363f in nfs_init (mf=0x80b57c0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:542
#7  0x804a7f9 in amfs_auto_bgmount (cp=0x80c8600, mpe=0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amfs_auto.c:676
#8  0x804a4bc in amfs_auto_retry (rc=0, term=0, closure=0x80c8600)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amfs_auto.c:402
#9  0x8055212 in do_task_notify ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/sched.c:239
#10 0x804df6d in softclock ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/clock.c:212
#11 0x8052583 in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:253
#12 0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=154)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#13 0x804a109 in main (argc=4, argv=0xbfbfddec)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#14 0x80480e9 in _start ()

I'm going to work on attaching it with gdb while it's locked next. 

Also based on advice I've made some changes to my configuration
files, although it didn't help the 'ls /' or 'df' problems.

Thanks for any help,

Doug
-- 
On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only
nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter
what it does.
-- Will Rogers


[ global ]
# Only search for maps of this type
map_type =   file

# Search this path for maps
search_path =/etc

# Use this directory for amd's private mount points
auto_dir =   /usr/amd/realmounts

# Log all activity to syslog (daemon)
log_file =  syslog:local7
log_options =all

# Check /etc/hosts for hostnames
normalize_hostnames =   yes

# Lock the amd process into memory, improves perf.
plock = yes

# Use the special /default entry in maps
selectors_on_default =   yes

# DEFINE AN AMD MOUNT POINT
[ /usr/amd/Interfaces ]
map_name =  amd.Interfaces

[ /usr/amd/Hold ]
map_name =  amd.Hold


 32# more /etc/amd.Interfaces

/defaults type:=nfs;opts:=rw,vers=2,intr,proto=udp,noconn

209.132.4   netapp01:/vol/Space/209.132.4
*   rhost:=IP${key};rfs:=/Space/${key}




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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
Ok, it's now wedged in a different state (using the same perl
script to wedge it). According to top:

  317 root2   0   648K   456K STOP   0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% amd

I also managed to attach to the running process this time:

(gdb) file /usr/sbin/amd
Reading symbols from /usr/sbin/amd...done.
(gdb) attach 317
Attaching to program: /usr/sbin/amd, process 317
0x8063c34 in select ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063c34 in select ()
#1  0x80523b6 in do_select (smask=0, fds=1024, fdp=0xbfbfd990,
tvp=0xbfbfd984)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:146
#2  0x80525fd in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:274
#3  0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=316)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#4  0x804a109 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbfdb84)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#5  0x80480e9 in _start ()


I am noticing that the last function, _start() is the same as in
the last traceback. 

Anyone with suggestions, I'm open to them. :) I tried doing
'continue' with gdb and it wedged gdb and amd, so I just rebooted.

HTH,

Doug



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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On 10 Jul 1999 12:56:41 -0400, R. Matthew Emerson wrote:

 I thought that it was almost never proper to soft-mount rw filesytems.
 Am I mistaken about this?

I must admit, it sounds like sensible advice. The only NFS exports which
I have to rely on are read-only mounts. The only time I soft-mounted a
read-write export was when I was mucking around with buildworld over
NFS, and it didn't cause me problems then.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it
successfully completed the script). Here is the trace:

(gdb) file /usr/sbin/amd
Reading symbols from /usr/sbin/amd...done.
(gdb) attach 155
Attaching to program: /usr/sbin/amd, process 155
0x8063dc4 in open ()
(gdb) where
#0  0x8063dc4 in open ()
#1  0x806b5c3 in vsyslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s, ap=0xbfbfb240 X)
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:262
#2  0x806b2c2 in syslog (pri=6, fmt=0x809279a %s)
at /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/syslog.c:130
#3  0x805a3d8 in real_plog (lvl=6,
fmt=0x8091ea0 recompute_portmap: NFS version %d, vargs=0xbfbfba7c
\002)
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:443
#4  0x805a2be in plog (lvl=16,
fmt=0x8091ea0 recompute_portmap: NFS version %d)
at
/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/../../../contrib/amd/libamu/xutil.c:383
#5  0x80556f8 in recompute_portmap (fs=0x80c9f80)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/srvr_nfs.c:285
#6  0x80559ff in nfs_srvr_port (fs=0x80c9f80, port=0xbfbfbabe, wchan=0x0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/srvr_nfs.c:564
#7  0x80534cd in call_mountd (fp=0xbfbfdb24, proc=3, f=0, wchan=0x0)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:438
#8  0x8053a3d in nfs_umounted (mp=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/ops_nfs.c:796
#9  0x804dd4f in am_unmounted (mp=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/autil.c:366
#10 0x8050b22 in free_map_if_success (rc=0, term=0, closure=0x80cad00)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/map.c:924
#11 0x8055212 in do_task_notify ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/sched.c:239
#12 0x804df6d in softclock ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/clock.c:212
#13 0x8052583 in run_rpc ()
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:253
#14 0x80527e6 in mount_automounter (ppid=154)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/nfs_start.c:467
#15 0x804a109 in main (argc=4, argv=0xbfbfddec)
at /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd/amd.c:544
#16 0x80480e9 in _start ()

I'm going to have a go at the code now that I can be fairly
certain that _start() is the culprit. (Please everyone, stop laughing,
thanks. :) 

Comments or suggestions welcome.

Doug



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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:00:52 MST, Doug wrote:

 The amd conf files are below, any insights or suggestions welcome. 

I can't remember whether it was you or someone else to whom I offered
this advice not so recently, so forgive me if I've suggested this to you
before.

I've found that AMD exacerbates NFS-related problems. Since I moved away
from AMD toward using proper NFS mounts (soft, interruptible, bg), the
hassles I was having with NFS have gone away completely.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-10 Thread R. Matthew Emerson

Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've found that AMD exacerbates NFS-related problems. Since I moved away
 from AMD toward using proper NFS mounts (soft, interruptible, bg), the
 hassles I was having with NFS have gone away completely.

I thought that it was almost never proper to soft-mount rw filesytems.
Am I mistaken about this?

-matt


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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-10 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:00:52 MST, Doug wrote:

 The amd conf files are below, any insights or suggestions welcome. 

I can't remember whether it was you or someone else to whom I offered
this advice not so recently, so forgive me if I've suggested this to you
before.

I've found that AMD exacerbates NFS-related problems. Since I moved away
from AMD toward using proper NFS mounts (soft, interruptible, bg), the
hassles I was having with NFS have gone away completely.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-10 Thread R. Matthew Emerson
Sheldon Hearn sheld...@uunet.co.za writes:

 I've found that AMD exacerbates NFS-related problems. Since I moved away
 from AMD toward using proper NFS mounts (soft, interruptible, bg), the
 hassles I was having with NFS have gone away completely.

I thought that it was almost never proper to soft-mount rw filesytems.
Am I mistaken about this?

-matt


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