Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-25 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 05:06:39 pm M. Warner Losh wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bob Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : Hi,
 : 
 : On 23 Oct 2007, at 20:45, Ivan Voras wrote:
 : 
 :  Bob Bishop wrote:
 :  Hi,
 : 
 :  The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE  
 :  config. Can
 :  anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING!  
 :  is an
 :  acceptable answer) Thanks
 : 
 :  I'm running USB keyboard and mouse under PAE without problems. Don't
 :  know about other USB devices. AFAIK everything that is 64-bit clean
 :  (i.e. works on AMD64 and other architectures) should work ok with PAE,
 :  so try compiling it in and see for yourself.
 : 
 : 
 : Yes. Keyboard and umass (CDROM and memory stick) seem to work here on  
 : 6.2R. Thanks!
 
 In 6.x the big problem is busdma support.  USB doesn't use it quite
 right, which means that buffers that it uses must be in the lower
 4GB.  If not, then it won't work.
 
 Current does proper scatter/gather, so should work without issue.

Ah, ok.  How does USB on 6.x work with amd64?  Also, any idea when the USB 
stuff will be MFC'd to 6?

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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-24 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

On 23 Oct 2007, at 20:45, Ivan Voras wrote:


Bob Bishop wrote:

Hi,

The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE  
config. Can
anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING!  
is an

acceptable answer) Thanks


I'm running USB keyboard and mouse under PAE without problems. Don't
know about other USB devices. AFAIK everything that is 64-bit clean
(i.e. works on AMD64 and other architectures) should work ok with PAE,
so try compiling it in and see for yourself.



Yes. Keyboard and umass (CDROM and memory stick) seem to work here on  
6.2R. Thanks!


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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-24 Thread Ivan Voras
On 24/10/2007, Bob Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes. Keyboard and umass (CDROM and memory stick) seem to work here on
 6.2R. Thanks!

I just saw it is officially ok'ed for PAE in future versions (commit
by John Baldwin).
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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On 24/10/2007, Bob Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: 
:  Yes. Keyboard and umass (CDROM and memory stick) seem to work here on
:  6.2R. Thanks!
: 
: I just saw it is officially ok'ed for PAE in future versions (commit
: by John Baldwin).

6.x doesn't have the scatter/gather code merged yet, so still is
unsafe.

Warner
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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Hi,
: 
: On 23 Oct 2007, at 20:45, Ivan Voras wrote:
: 
:  Bob Bishop wrote:
:  Hi,
: 
:  The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE  
:  config. Can
:  anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING!  
:  is an
:  acceptable answer) Thanks
: 
:  I'm running USB keyboard and mouse under PAE without problems. Don't
:  know about other USB devices. AFAIK everything that is 64-bit clean
:  (i.e. works on AMD64 and other architectures) should work ok with PAE,
:  so try compiling it in and see for yourself.
: 
: 
: Yes. Keyboard and umass (CDROM and memory stick) seem to work here on  
: 6.2R. Thanks!

In 6.x the big problem is busdma support.  USB doesn't use it quite
right, which means that buffers that it uses must be in the lower
4GB.  If not, then it won't work.

Current does proper scatter/gather, so should work without issue.

Warner
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USB vs PAE

2007-10-23 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE config.  
Can anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING!  
is an acceptable answer) Thanks



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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-23 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Bob Bishop wrote:
 Hi,

 The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE config.
 Can anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING!
 is an acceptable answer) 

This may not be related but xorg had real difficulty findind cards with
pae (e6850 4 gig)... amd64 fixed this
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Re: USB vs PAE

2007-10-23 Thread Ivan Voras
Bob Bishop wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The whole USB kit and caboodle is nodevice'd out in the PAE config. Can
 anyone give a succinct summary of what needs fixing? (EVERYTHING! is an
 acceptable answer) Thanks

I'm running USB keyboard and mouse under PAE without problems. Don't
know about other USB devices. AFAIK everything that is 64-bit clean
(i.e. works on AMD64 and other architectures) should work ok with PAE,
so try compiling it in and see for yourself.




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