best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar

http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html

or ZFS ZIL device for ZFS fans.

anyone know exactly how it is visible and how it works?

isn't BIOS clearing out memory on reboot?

FreeBSD is but it can be patched easily.

How to get DRAM controller mapping i mean what DIMM is at what address?
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Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html

 or ZFS ZIL device for ZFS fans.

 anyone know exactly how it is visible and how it works?

In general devices like these that I've dealt with in the past are
presented as SATA or SAS devices, but some devices require additional
drivers (take Ramdrives devices for instance).

 isn't BIOS clearing out memory on reboot?

Depends on the BIOS, the settings set in the BIOS, etc.

 FreeBSD is but it can be patched easily.

I wouldn't depend on volatile memory working in a non-volatile manner
unless it's battery backed (which companies like Ramdrive, STEC,
Viking, etc do) and in which case all you're doing (depending on how
the device is designed) is delaying writes out to non-volatile
(NAND/NOR flash) or another non-volatile medium (USB thumbdrive?
etc... I vaguely remember seeing a vendor doing something clever
like that...).

 How to get DRAM controller mapping i mean what DIMM is at what address?

What is located where should be opaque if the designer designed it
properly (otherwise a driver will need to be added to interface with
the device if the vendor is trying to be clever or is not fully
conforming to ATA/SCSI standards).

Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar

http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html

In general devices like these that I've dealt with in the past are
presented as SATA or SAS devices, but some devices require additional
drivers (take Ramdrives devices for instance).


this one - as described - is 100% regular DDR3 DIMM and plugged as normal 
memory.





Depends on the BIOS, the settings set in the BIOS, etc.


FreeBSD is but it can be patched easily.


I wouldn't depend on volatile memory working in a non-volatile manner
unless it's battery backed (which companies like Ramdrive, STEC,


this is supercapacitor backed. after poweroff it have enough time to write 
all to SLC flash chip.




How to get DRAM controller mapping i mean what DIMM is at what address?


What is located where should be opaque if the designer designed it
properly (otherwise a driver will need to be added to interface with
the device if the vendor is trying to be clever or is not fully
conforming to ATA/SCSI standards).



please read attached link. it is NOT SATA/ATA/SAS/PCIe device.
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Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
 http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html

 In general devices like these that I've dealt with in the past are
 presented as SATA or SAS devices, but some devices require additional
 drivers (take Ramdrives devices for instance).

 this one - as described - is 100% regular DDR3 DIMM and plugged as normal
 memory.

 Depends on the BIOS, the settings set in the BIOS, etc.

 FreeBSD is but it can be patched easily.


 I wouldn't depend on volatile memory working in a non-volatile manner
 unless it's battery backed (which companies like Ramdrive, STEC,

 this is supercapacitor backed. after poweroff it have enough time to write
 all to SLC flash chip.

 How to get DRAM controller mapping i mean what DIMM is at what address?


 What is located where should be opaque if the designer designed it
 properly (otherwise a driver will need to be added to interface with
 the device if the vendor is trying to be clever or is not fully
 conforming to ATA/SCSI standards).

 please read attached link. it is NOT SATA/ATA/SAS/PCIe device.

I just read the product tearout. It says that it depends purely on
BIOS support, which may or may not exist for your motherboard (and
there's an SSD that it uses to write out the data in the event that
power fails). So I'm guessing that if it works with your motherboard,
it will work regardless of the OS.
How it's presented to the OS? ENOCLUE (ask Viking).
Thanks,
-Garrett
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Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar

power fails). So I'm guessing that if it works with your motherboard,
it will work regardless of the OS.
   How it's presented to the OS? ENOCLUE (ask Viking).


it is DDR3 DIMM so it is presented as RAM.

ENODRIVER in FreeBSD. but could be trivial to implement, if it is known on 
which memory address (non-translated) this exist.


ENOIDEA about price too.
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