Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
Sergey Matveychuk wrote: BTW, UT_HOSTSIZE=16 is too short in my opinion. As I can see, linux has UT_HOSTSIZE=256. -- Sem. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
w(1) behaviour has changed with brien commit in w.c revision 1.48. Funny, but looks like '-n' options works right after commit, not before. The reason is utmp holds a host name and w(1) with '-n' flag _do_ resolve hostname back in IP address and without '-n' don't resolve it. It's confised. IMHO to be more robust, we should make utmp to hold an IP address instead of a hostname and change all applications that use it. As bonus it will fix a delay on login when resolving does not work. And last(1) will show more useful IP address instead of changable hostname. But I'm not sure about standards. -- Sem. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
On Sun, 2005-Feb-13 19:50:44 +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: IMHO to be more robust, we should make utmp to hold an IP address instead of a hostname and change all applications that use it. As bonus it will fix a delay on login when resolving does not work. And last(1) will show more useful IP address instead of changable hostname. Depending on the environment, the IP address may be more changeable than the hostname. Definitely, in a DHCP or dialup environment, you can't rely on the IP address at any time other than during the session. There is little (if any) benefit in logging the IP address instead of the hostname. -- Peter Jeremy ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
Peter Jeremy wrote: Depending on the environment, the IP address may be more changeable than the hostname. Definitely, in a DHCP or dialup environment, you can't rely on the IP address at any time other than during the session. There is little (if any) benefit in logging the IP address instead of the hostname. I agree, environments are different. So may be it makes no sense to change hostname with IP. It was just an idea. But fact is, we lost 'w -n' semantic. And it should be fixed. BTW, UT_HOSTSIZE=16 is too short in my opinion. -- Sem. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
At 5:16 PM +1100 2/14/05, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sun, 2005-Feb-13 19:50:44 +0300, Sergey Matveychuk wrote: IMHO to be more robust, we should make utmp to hold an IP address instead of a hostname and change all applications that use it. As bonus it will fix a delay on login when resolving does not work. And last(1) will show more useful IP address instead of changable hostname. Depending on the environment, the IP address may be more changeable than the hostname. Definitely, in a DHCP or dialup environment, you can't rely on the IP address at any time other than during the session. There is little (if any) benefit in logging the IP address instead of the hostname. Actually, it would be nice to log both. That's what I have done for some printer-related statistics (not sure if I did that in FreeBSD, but I do that for production use at RPI). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
IMHO to be more robust, we should make utmp to hold an IP address instead of a hostname and change all applications that use it. As bonus it will fix a delay on login when resolving does not work. And last(1) will show more useful IP address instead of changable hostname. [snip] Actually, it would be nice to log both. That's what I have done for some printer-related statistics (not sure if I did that in FreeBSD, but I do that for production use at RPI). Hi, this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please you should think IPv6 address that may be 39 bytes. I connected to sshd from a remote computer but w -n displayed IPv4 address. It was not good for me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin/76089: The -n option in /usr/bin/w is broken
Garance A Drosihn wrote: Actually, it would be nice to log both. That's what I have done for some printer-related statistics (not sure if I did that in FreeBSD, but I do that for production use at RPI). I like the idea. We can add field 'address' in utmp structure and save hostname and IP address there. It will some backward compatible then (but not for wtmp though). -- Sem. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
