Re: cvs deprecated
do ports have to be updated this way or i can use portsnap as today? will portsnap be continued or is too deprecated? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On 30 Dec 2012 12:58, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: do ports have to be updated this way or i can use portsnap as today? will portsnap be continued or is too deprecated? Portsnap is staying. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:18:37 + Chris Rees wrote: On 30 Dec 2012 12:58, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: do ports have to be updated this way or i can use portsnap as today? will portsnap be continued or is too deprecated? Portsnap is staying. And I understand that freebsd-update can be configured to only update the base system source code. If you don't want development branches you can do without subversion altogether. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
1. Checkout the sources: cd /usr/src # Change to something else if you don't want to checkout to /usr/src. svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 . # stable/9 svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT 2. Updating: cd /usr/src # Same caveat as above. svn up See also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html . seen but not found simple explanation which you gave me. Thank you very much. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cvs deprecated
but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. could someone just tell me what command (and/or config file) i have to use today, as cvs will not work soon ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. 1. Checkout the sources: cd /usr/src # Change to something else if you don't want to checkout to /usr/src. svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 . # stable/9 svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT 2. Updating: cd /usr/src # Same caveat as above. svn up See also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html . ... HTH, -Garrett ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
For svn, you can use svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/[whatever] You can find all the [whatever] at http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/ so if you wanted to get the latest HEAD src, then it would go something like svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. could someone just tell me what command (and/or config file) i have to use today, as cvs will not work soon ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On 27 Dec 2012 09:47, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. 1. Checkout the sources: cd /usr/src # Change to something else if you don't want to checkout to /usr/src. svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 . # stable/9 svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT I recall a cluster administrator advising use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Dec 2012 09:47, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. 1. Checkout the sources: cd /usr/src # Change to something else if you don't want to checkout to /usr/src. svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 . # stable/9 svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT I recall a cluster administrator advising use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Yes, you're right. http opens a connection per-file, which is horrendous with server load and is very slow as HTTP isn't optimized for this purpose (and the current defacto HTTP library used with svn isn't the most performant thing in the world). Unfortunately some groups filter svn:// traffic though (like my employer), so I'm stuck with http:// URIs for now (hence, the force of habit). Thanks, -Garrett ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: ... I see a lot of people switching to the target directory first rather than just including it as an argument for svn. Is there an advantage there that I'm missing? I've always just used svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src and svn up /usr/src No difference really, other than the cumulative amount of typed characters is less in the former form compared to the latter form. Thanks, -Garrett ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I never used cvs or svn myself just want to 1) get latest FreeBSD 9-* sources 2) get latest HEAD sources. 1. Checkout the sources: cd /usr/src # Change to something else if you don't want to checkout to /usr/src. svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 . # stable/9 svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT 2. Updating: cd /usr/src # Same caveat as above. svn up See also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/svn.html . I see a lot of people switching to the target directory first rather than just including it as an argument for svn. Is there an advantage there that I'm missing? I've always just used svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src and svn up /usr/src ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: ... I see a lot of people switching to the target directory first rather than just including it as an argument for svn. Is there an advantage there that I'm missing? I've always just used svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src and svn up /usr/src No difference really, other than the cumulative amount of typed characters is less in the former form compared to the latter form. Ah, I see what you mean. Depends on whether you were going to cd into the target directory immediately. svn up can update multiple local working copies through one command, too: svn up /usr/src /usr/ports ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:33:00 -0800 Garrett Cooper wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: I recall a cluster administrator advising use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Yes, you're right. http opens a connection per-file, which is horrendous with server load and is very slow as HTTP isn't optimized for this purpose Presumably that's a limitation of the library or subversion because it's not true of HTTP per se. Portsnap, for example, uses persistent connections with pipelining. (and the current defacto HTTP library used with svn isn't the most performant thing in the world). ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:28 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:33:00 -0800 Garrett Cooper wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: I recall a cluster administrator advising use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Yes, you're right. http opens a connection per-file, which is horrendous with server load and is very slow as HTTP isn't optimized for this purpose Presumably that's a limitation of the library or subversion because it's not true of HTTP per se. Portsnap, for example, uses persistent connections with pipelining. An example of what I mean [1]: === A checkout/update over svn:// is approx 4-12 times faster than over http(s):// . The factor depends on number of files/folders and file size . Apache is much slower on many small files because each file is a full http-request-response cycle. In Tortoise you can easily see the speed dropping: Checkout a large java projects If you transfer a huge .jar, transfer is going up, on getting source java files and creating package structure, it will drop. Also important is that svn checkout is slower on client than svn export and also eclipse(java) is much slower than tortoise/CMD. share|improve this answer === Qualitatively we (my group) have seen a huge performance increase in our svnsyncs from freebsd.org using svn:// instead of http:// . We haven't measured how much the difference is quantatively though because a qualitative answer was sufficient for helping reinforce a business case for unfiltering that port with corporate. HTH, -Garrett 1. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/372569/subversion-protocol-performance ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I cant seem to find a way to handle conflicts, ive tried to do svn revert on every directory, but there is always more... maybe svn just isnt a good way to keep your ports tree current svn up Updating '.': Skipped 'databases' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'irc' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'lang' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'security/cyrus-sasl2' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'x11/keybinder' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'net-mgmt' -- Node remains in conflict At revision 309546. Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 6 -- Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
27.12.2012 20:29, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I cant seem to find a way to handle conflicts, ive tried to do svn revert on every directory, but there is always more... maybe svn just isnt a good way to keep your ports tree current svn up Updating '.': Skipped 'databases' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'irc' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'lang' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'security/cyrus-sasl2' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'x11/keybinder' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'net-mgmt' -- Node remains in conflict At revision 309546. Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 6 svn revert -R /usr/ports - works for me. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Dec 27, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Sergey Matveychuk s...@freebsd.org wrote: 27.12.2012 20:29, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I cant seem to find a way to handle conflicts, ive tried to do svn revert on every directory, but there is always more... maybe svn just isnt a good way to keep your ports tree current svn up Updating '.': Skipped 'databases' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'irc' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'lang' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'security/cyrus-sasl2' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'x11/keybinder' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'net-mgmt' -- Node remains in conflict At revision 309546. Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 6 svn revert -R /usr/ports - works for me. If you're checking out to a directory that already exists, svn resolved is the way to handle that. There might be (- probably is) a way to check out the metadata by itself, but I can't verify how right now. Hth, -Garrett ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cvs deprecated
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: but i can't find moron guide for using svn to update tree. I cant seem to find a way to handle conflicts, ive tried to do svn revert on every directory, but there is always more... maybe svn just isnt a good way to keep your ports tree current svn up Updating '.': Skipped 'databases' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'irc' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'lang' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'security/cyrus-sasl2' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'x11/keybinder' -- Node remains in conflict Skipped 'net-mgmt' -- Node remains in conflict At revision 309546. Summary of conflicts: Skipped paths: 6 A checkout of the entire /usr/ports into an empty directory is the way to start. You can save the distfiles directory out of an existing /usr/ports first if desired. And any customizations to ports files, if you have them. Note that svn checkouts don't automatically combine. Checking out /usr/ports is not equivalent to checking out all the category subdirectories into /usr/ports. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
