ports (audio) candidate

2001-09-01 Thread Julian Elischer

http://www.speech.kth.se/snack/

I came across this today.
It compiles and runs under freeBSD ok, bit seems to have some small hickups and 
stuff I can't figure out. If there is a tcl/tk guru out there
who can take a quick look.. This is a rather awesome sound analysis program
designed to allow analysis for voice-recognition work.

Seems to "Almost" work.. It keeps complaining about "losing focus" and
occasionally
core-dumping here.. A TCL expert may know the 'trick' needed to make it a
reliable port.

particularly the "wavesurfer" program.

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Re: Should URL's be pervasive.

2001-09-01 Thread Matthew D. Fuller

Oh god, as everybody else is saying, I can't believe I'm getting involved
in this, but...

On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:58:21AM -0700, a little birdie told me
that Richard Hodges remarked
 
 Why not parse it literally?  For instance, http://www.ufp.org
 would imply TCP, dest port 80, and host www.ufp.org.
 
 For ping, that would imply that I want to test the three-way
 handshake on whatever is listening on port 80 at www.ufp.org
 
 For traceroute, I want to send a series of TCP SYN packets to
 www.ufp.org, port 80 with increasing TTL values.  Perhaps this

No, it doesn't.
http://www.ufp.org/ does NOT mean TCP port 80.
www.ufp.org:80 means port 80, I don't know of any simple common way to
say TCP.

http://www.ufp.org/ means the host 'www.ufp.org' using the protocol
'http' with the TCP port 80 implicity as a result of the 'http'.
Traceroute is not going to use HTTP.  Ping is not going to use HTTP.
Rpcinfo is not going to use HTTP.  A mail client is not going to use
HTTP (this one is perhaps debatable, but I'm sure as hell not going
there).


If you want to take a URI passed to 'ping', say, and parse out a
hostname, that's one thing which I'm sure we could have endless
disagreement about.  But doing that is *NOT* parsing it as a URI.



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gzipped crashdumps

2001-09-01 Thread Kris Kennaway

Anyone else think this patch from NetBSD is worthwhile?

Should I also extend it to support bzip2'ed dumps now that that's in
the base system, or would that be overkill?

Kris

Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /mnt/ncvs/src/sbin/savecore/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -r1.5 Makefile
--- Makefile2001/03/26 14:33:23 1.5
+++ Makefile2001/09/01 08:15:14
@@ -5,8 +5,7 @@
 SRCS=  savecore.c zopen.c
 MAN=   savecore.8
 
-ZOPENPATH= ${.CURDIR}/../../usr.bin/compress
-.PATH: ${ZOPENPATH}
-CFLAGS+= -I${ZOPENPATH}
+DPADD+=${LIBZ}
+LDADD+=-lz
 
 .include bsd.prog.mk
Index: savecore.8
===
RCS file: /mnt/ncvs/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.8,v
retrieving revision 1.12
diff -u -r1.12 savecore.8
--- savecore.8  2001/07/10 11:02:27 1.12
+++ savecore.8  2001/09/01 08:11:50
@@ -72,7 +72,7 @@
 Print out some additional debugging information.
 .It Fl z
 Compress the core dump and kernel (see
-.Xr compress 1 ) .
+.Xr gzip 1 ) .
 .El
 .Pp
 .Nm Savecore
@@ -113,8 +113,8 @@
 .Sh BUGS
 The minfree code does not consider the effect of compression.
 .Sh SEE ALSO
-.Xr compress 1 ,
 .Xr getbootfile 3 ,
+.Xr gzip 1 ,
 .Xr syslogd 8
 .Sh HISTORY
 The
Index: savecore.c
===
RCS file: /mnt/ncvs/src/sbin/savecore/savecore.c,v
retrieving revision 1.41
diff -u -r1.41 savecore.c
--- savecore.c  2001/06/09 01:41:03 1.41
+++ savecore.c  2001/09/01 08:06:48
@@ -63,8 +63,9 @@
 #include stdlib.h
 #include string.h
 #include unistd.h
-#include zopen.h
 
+extern FILE *zopen(const char *fname, const char *mode);
+
 #ifdef __alpha__
 #define ok(number) ALPHA_K0SEG_TO_PHYS(number)
 #endif
@@ -131,7 +132,7 @@
 int get_crashtime __P((void));
 voidget_dumpsize __P((void));
 voidkmem_setup __P((void));
-voidlog __P((int, char *, ...));
+voidlog __P((int, char *, ...)) __printf0like(2, 3);
 voidLseek __P((int, off_t, int));
 int Open __P((const char *, int rw));
 int Read __P((int, void *, int));
@@ -384,9 +385,9 @@
/* Create the core file. */
oumask = umask(S_IRWXG|S_IRWXO); /* Restrict access to the core file.*/
(void)snprintf(path, sizeof(path), %s/vmcore.%d%s,
-   savedir, bounds, compress ? .Z : );
+   savedir, bounds, compress ? .gz : );
if (compress)
-   fp = zopen(path, w, 0);
+   fp = zopen(path, w);
else
fp = fopen(path, w);
if (fp == NULL) {
@@ -463,9 +464,9 @@
/* Copy the kernel. */
ifd = Open(kernel ? kernel : getbootfile(), O_RDONLY);
(void)snprintf(path, sizeof(path), %s/kernel.%d%s,
-   savedir, bounds, compress ? .Z : );
+   savedir, bounds, compress ? .gz : );
if (compress)
-   fp = zopen(path, w, 0);
+   fp = zopen(path, w);
else
fp = fopen(path, w);
if (fp == NULL) {
--- /dev/null   Sat Sep  1 01:13:34 2001
+++ zopen.c Sat Sep  1 01:10:14 2001
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+/*
+ * Public domain stdio wrapper for libz, written by Johan Danielsson.
+ */
+
+#ifndef lint
+static const char rcsid[] = 
+  $FreeBSD$;
+#endif /* not lint */
+
+#include stdio.h
+#include zlib.h
+
+FILE *zopen(const char *fname, const char *mode);
+
+/* convert arguments */
+static int
+xgzread(void *cookie, char *data, int size)
+{
+return gzread(cookie, data, size);
+}
+
+static int
+xgzwrite(void *cookie, const char *data, int size)
+{
+return gzwrite(cookie, (void*)data, size);
+}
+
+FILE *
+zopen(const char *fname, const char *mode)
+{
+gzFile gz = gzopen(fname, mode);
+if(gz == NULL)
+   return NULL;
+
+if(*mode == 'r')
+   return (funopen(gz, xgzread, NULL, NULL, gzclose));
+else
+   return (funopen(gz, NULL, xgzwrite, NULL, gzclose));
+}

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Ipnat device problems

2001-09-01 Thread Chojin

Hello,

since I recompiled my system and my kernel, ipnat device doesn't work
anymore:
#ipnat
/dev/ipnat: open: Device not configured
#ipfstat
open: Device not configured
...

I've got in kernel config:
options IPFILTER#ipfilter support
options IPFILTER_LOG#ipfilter logging
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100#limit verbosity
options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options IPDIVERT

I didn't forget to do a mergemaster (it does the MAKEDEV all).

Someone has got an idea ?

Best regards,

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Re: Clock speedup on 4.X FreeBSD SMP and serverworks chipset

2001-09-01 Thread Bruce Evans

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I see (amost).
 
  Please format the macro the same as the other macros in the file.

 Index: apic_vector.s
 ===
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/apic_vector.s,v
 retrieving revision 1.47.2.4
 diff -u -r1.47.2.4 apic_vector.s
 --- apic_vector.s 18 Jul 2000 21:12:41 -  1.47.2.4
 +++ apic_vector.s 31 Aug 2001 19:24:24 -
 @@ -653,7 +707,14 @@
   FAST_INTR(21,fastintr21)
   FAST_INTR(22,fastintr22)
   FAST_INTR(23,fastintr23)
 -#define  CLKINTR_PENDING movl $1,CNAME(clkintr_pending)
 +
 +#define  CLKINTR_PENDING \
 + pushl $clock_lock;  \
 + call s_lock;\
 + movl $1,CNAME(clkintr_pending); \
 + call s_unlock;  \
 + addl $4, %esp
 +
   INTR(0,intr0, CLKINTR_PENDING)
   INTR(1,intr1,)
   INTR(2,intr2,)


The other macros also have a space befor the semicolons :).  Otherwise OK.
Better commit this (especially to 4.4R) until we have something better.

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:q:q![kevin.way@overtone.org: Re: import NetBSD rc system]

2001-09-01 Thread Kevin Way

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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:34:26 +
From: Kevin Way [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: import NetBSD rc system

On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 11:10:43PM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
 Here's my big question. Do we try to maintain our boot order? Or are we
 going to go with the boot order as presented by the NetBSD stuff?

I don't see any reason to force the boot order to be maintained.  As long
as the dependancies are set correctly, i'd think the boot order would be
determined solely by the output of rcorder.

What am I missing?

-Kevin Way

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FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report -- Request For Submissions

2001-09-01 Thread Robert Watson


It's that time again!  I'm in the process of preparing the August, 2001
FreeBSD monthly status report, and as such am interested in seeing
submissions in much the same style as previous months.  Generally, this
means about one paragraph of text per project describing events that have
occured since the last status report (or two paragraphs for new projects,
so as to introduce them).  Large projects can be broken down into multiple
sub-projects with seperate reports reports.  If multiple developers are
working on the same project, they should coordinate so as to submit only
one report (or split it up into parts as appropriate along logical
boundaries).

Reports should relate to the FreeBSD Project, but are not limited to
on-going software development: documentation, public relations,
management, application developer relations, technology transfer, etc, are
all relevant.

Please submit reports in the following format: 

Project: (name here -- required field)
URL: (URL, if any, here -- omit field if none)
Contact: (name and e-mail address of one or more contact points --
 required field)

  One paragraph on the topic of project status since the last report,
  indented two spaces, and wrapped at column 78.  Plain text only,
  please.

Please send submissions to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The deadline for submissions is September 7, 2001, at 3:00pm EST.  The
report will be released soon thereafter.

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Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report -- Request For Submissions

2001-09-01 Thread Josef Karthauser

On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:19:47AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote:
 
 It's that time again!  I'm in the process of preparing the August, 2001
 ^^
September one probably ;)

Joe

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Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report -- Request For Submissions

2001-09-01 Thread Josef Karthauser

On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:57:26PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:19:47AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote:
  
  It's that time again!  I'm in the process of preparing the August, 2001
  ^^
 September one probably ;)

Ah no.  My error.  You're doing them retrospective aren't you? :)

Sorry,
Joe

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Re: Should URL's be pervasive.

2001-09-01 Thread Spike Gronim

On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:11:30AM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Laurence Berland writes:
  Optimally, you could write a urlsh or something, and leave everyone else
  alone.  The shell could do substitutions on URLs just like they do on
  wildcards etc, and the applications would not need to be rewritten, plus
  you wouldn't add bloat to those of us who don't want this in the system...
 It is possible if interfaces of utilities is fully standartized.
 For example -p flag in any command means port number.

Actually, that's not true. The scp manpage says:

 -p  Preserves modification times, access times, and modes from the
 original file.

Also, tar has the same flag with the same meaning. 

 Such as
 
 mutt -l user -h host.domain
 
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Re: gzipped crashdumps

2001-09-01 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kris Kennaway  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyone else think this patch from NetBSD is worthwhile?

Yes yes yes yes yes!  That's 5 votes in favor of it already. :-)

 Should I also extend it to support bzip2'ed dumps now that that's in
 the base system, or would that be overkill?

I'm more or less neutral on that, but since the files are so big I
bet bzip2 would be almost too slow to bear at reboot time.

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Re: Should URL's be pervasive.

2001-09-01 Thread Richard Hodges

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:58:21AM -0700, Richard Hodges wrote:
   On the other hand, what exactly is http://www.ufp.org supposed to be useful
   for when www.ufp.org is the same thing.
  
  Why not parse it literally?  For instance, http://www.ufp.org
  would imply TCP, dest port 80, and host www.ufp.org.
  
  For ping, that would imply that I want to test the three-way
  handshake on whatever is listening on port 80 at www.ufp.org
 
 Do you have *ANY* clue how ping works???  It doesn't use TCP, for
 starters...

Duh!  I KNOW that ping uses ICMP echo request.  This thread is
about a what if situation, and I was simply carrying to what
I think was the logical conclusion.  Did I claim that this would
be a useful feature? NO!  

If you get a spare moment, why don't you (re)read Jonathon Swift's
A modest proposal.  It's a good read.

  For traceroute, I want to send a series of TCP SYN packets to
  www.ufp.org, port 80 with increasing TTL values.  Perhaps this
  would be a way to test connectivity to a service behind a firewall.
 
 Do you know how traceroute works??  For one, the destination host cannot
 be listening on the port used.  And you know that each progressive
 traceroute packet sent out bumps the destination port by one, to help
 trace the ICMP time exceeded / port unreachable responses.

David, you obviously know a lot of things, but having a sense of 
humor would be of great help here.

Jeez...

-Richard

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Re: Should URL's be pervasive.

2001-09-01 Thread Richard Hodges

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:

  For traceroute, I want to send a series of TCP SYN packets to
  www.ufp.org, port 80 with increasing TTL values.  Perhaps this
 
 No, it doesn't.
 http://www.ufp.org/ does NOT mean TCP port 80.
 www.ufp.org:80 means port 80, I don't know of any simple common way to
 say TCP.
 
 http://www.ufp.org/ means the host 'www.ufp.org' using the protocol
 'http' with the TCP port 80 implicity as a result of the 'http'.
 Traceroute is not going to use HTTP.  Ping is not going to use HTTP.
 Rpcinfo is not going to use HTTP.  A mail client is not going to use
 HTTP (this one is perhaps debatable, but I'm sure as hell not going
 there).

Agreed.  I thought that it would be funny to carry this to an
absurd conclusion, but I guess some people would rather just
take the opportunity to assume ignorance in others.

 If you want to take a URI passed to 'ping', say, and parse out a
 hostname, that's one thing which I'm sure we could have endless
 disagreement about.  But doing that is *NOT* parsing it as a URI.

Well, since humor doesn't work, I will be blunt.  I think that
the utilities and agents work just fine, thank-you-very-much.
I think that adding URI handling to ping, traceroute, ftp, mail,
etc. is a waste of time.  To me, mailto:; suggests a TCP connection
to port 25, and it is (at best) nuissance information when I want
to do a ping or traceroute.  The same with http:.

-Richard

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Re: gzipped crashdumps

2001-09-01 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:29:18PM -0700, John Polstra wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Kris Kennaway  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Anyone else think this patch from NetBSD is worthwhile?
 
 Yes yes yes yes yes!  That's 5 votes in favor of it already. :-)

:-)

  Should I also extend it to support bzip2'ed dumps now that that's in
  the base system, or would that be overkill?
 
 I'm more or less neutral on that, but since the files are so big I
 bet bzip2 would be almost too slow to bear at reboot time.

Yes.  Maybe I'll do some testing to see how much space it saves -- it
might be useful as a non-default option for people who are low on disk
space.

Kris

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sysent in fork()

2001-09-01 Thread Evan Sarmiento

Hey,

I have a question about sysent. If a modification
to a processes p-p_sysent and associated substructures
are made, are the changes propagated through fork
to children?

Thanks,

Evan



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Re: FreeBSD and Athlon Processors

2001-09-01 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix

On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 08:33:36PM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:

 Well, since it didn't, I might as well explain the problem here too.
 There are at least two major problems with VIA chips:

[data curruption on VIA KT133/133A systems by pushing PCI and memory bus]

Are you sure about that?

I've pushed systems like that _very_ hard and not seen any problems,
with Linux, NetBSD, or FreeBSD.

The only trouble I have is IDE bus resets with CD-ROM drives, especially
in FreeBSD. Since the same thing happens with a lot of IDE systems, I
generally blame IDE; it's a broken-by-design interface in the first
place.

If this is really true, I would think it should be fairly easy to prove
it.

Now, go back in time about 2 years, and I wouldn't doubt it, because
there were problems with the first VIA KT chipsets, and even the AMD
architecture in general. Everything I've read suggests those problems
have been fixed.

If not, then it should be fairly easy to demonstrate this. I'm willing
to donate time and a system to this since I'd really like to know.
In fact, if this _really is_ true, then it would be a good idea for
a substantial number of people to try and verify it: the VIA based
motherboards for AMD are some of the best out there, as PC motherboards
go anyway.

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Re: Clock speedup on 4.X FreeBSD SMP and serverworks chipset

2001-09-01 Thread Jordan Hubbard

Nobody's formally asked the release engineers yet.  I'd want to see a
request sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the usual way, with diffs attached,
before I'd decide either way.

- Jordan

From: Martin Blapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Clock speedup on 4.X FreeBSD SMP and serverworks chipset
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:35:15 +0200 (CEST)

 
  The other macros also have a space befor the semicolons :).  Otherwise OK.
  Better commit this (especially to 4.4R) until we have something better.
 
 I also think that this is important to have fixed. Without this fix,
 we would have been forced to change the platform for our software to a
 working Linux SMP with no timedrift.
 
 But let Jordan decide if he likes it :-)
 
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Re: Clock speedup on 4.X FreeBSD SMP and serverworks chipset

2001-09-01 Thread Martin Blapp


 The other macros also have a space befor the semicolons :).  Otherwise OK.
 Better commit this (especially to 4.4R) until we have something better.

I also think that this is important to have fixed. Without this fix,
we would have been forced to change the platform for our software to a
working Linux SMP with no timedrift.

But let Jordan decide if he likes it :-)

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Routing Performance?

2001-09-01 Thread Deepak Jain


The new P4s are shipping with 800mhz RAMBUS memory modules. Wouldn't 2GB of
800mhz RAM go a long way to evening out the performance between a PC/FreeBSD
box and all but the most specialized, packet-pushing ASICs?

I was doing some rough figuring, and could see how a P4 with its new bus and
memory  path would have trouble forwarding at least 2Gb/s.

Am I missing something?

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SO_REUSEPORT on unicast UDP sockets

2001-09-01 Thread Vladimir A. Jakovenko

Hello!

 According to UNPv1 SO_REUSEPORT on UDP sockets can be used to bind more than
 one socket to the same port (even with same source ip address). But quick
 look on /sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c function udp_input() shows that this will
 work as expected (data stream duplicate) only on multicast/broadcast local
 addresses. Please pay attention to the following code fragment comments:

if (IN_MULTICAST(ntohl(ip-ip_dst.s_addr)) ||
in_broadcast(ip-ip_dst, m-m_pkthdr.rcvif)) {
struct inpcb *last;
/*
 * Deliver a multicast or broadcast datagram to *all* sockets
 * for which the local and remote addresses and ports match
 * those of the incoming datagram.  This allows more than
 * one process to receive multi/broadcasts on the same port.
 * (This really ought to be done for unicast datagrams as
 * well, but that would cause problems with existing
 * applications that open both address-specific sockets and
 * a wildcard socket listening to the same port -- they would
 * end up receiving duplicates of every unicast datagram.
 * Those applications open the multiple sockets to overcome an
 * inadequacy of the UDP socket interface, but for backwards
 * compatibility we avoid the problem here rather than
 * fixing the interface.  Maybe 4.5BSD will remedy this?)
 */

 Is there still any real need in such backward compatibility? Can such
 functionality be added (fixed) with possibility to switch it off using sysctl
 or kernel-build option?

 I find such possibility realy useful at least for NetFlow data processing and
 believe that it would be useful for many UDP-based protocols.

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