Unfetchable distfiles reminder

2007-05-07 Thread Bill Fenner

Dear porters,

  This is just a reminder to please periodically check the list of
unfetchable distfiles at http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/ .
In particular, the list of ports with no MAINTAINER with distfile
problems, which currently has 238 bad ports, is

http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since no one is responsible for these ports, the problem won't get
fixed unless someone on this list takes the initiative.

  In addition, the list of all ports with any unfetchable distfile is

http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/bad.html

if you don't mind coordinating your fixes with the port MAINTAINER.

Thanks for your help!

Bill distfiles Fenner
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Current unassigned ports problem reports

2007-05-07 Thread FreeBSD bugmaster
Current FreeBSD problem reports
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. 
These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental 
development code and obsolete releases. 
Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
The problem is understood and a solution is being sought.

f - feedback
Further work requires additional information from the
 originator or the community - possibly confirmation of
 the effectiveness of a proposed solution.

p - patched
A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or
 confirmation from originator) are still open.

r - repocopy
The resolution of the problem report is dependent on
 a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which
 is awaiting completion.

s - suspended
The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information
 or resources.  This is a prime candidate
 for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
 If the problem cannot be solved at all,
 it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
 documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned.
Critical problems
Serious problems

S Tracker  Resp.  Description

o ports/105549ports/www/squid_radius_auth doesn't work on sparc64
o ports/106369vpnd caused kernel panic with ppp mode
o ports/106372vpnd can't run with slip mode
o ports/107536editors/scite: Can't write on SciTE text editor
f ports/108077www/linux-flashplugin9 crashes linux-firefox
f ports/108413net/vnc does not works.
f ports/108537print/hplip: Build failure
f ports/108606Courier MTA terminates abnormaly after installation
f ports/108748mod_fcgid 1.10 does not work inside jail
f ports/109160net/samba3 crashes freebsd when accessing a share resi
f ports/110035Port fix for sysutils/be_agent
f ports/110454Joomla port Makefile has incorrect url for package
f ports/110943start-dccifd  chowns /var/run to user dcc
f ports/111012quagga's ripd does not see ng interfaces
f ports/51ports/lang/stklos: l/bin/stklos-install is a buggy she
o ports/111224 ports  [PATCH] security/pam_per_user conflicts with security/
f ports/111338graphics/yafray: doesn't respect CXX, CXXFLAGS and eve
f ports/111462syslog-ng2 default configuration file path
o ports/111923[PATCH] databases/unixODBC overwrites config file on p
f ports/111966Clamav-milter no up
f ports/111980multimedia/mplayer: compilation error
o ports/112067ports/paraview 2.4.4 does not compile properly
f ports/112083mail/qsheff overwrites configuration upon upgrade
f ports/112094www/lynx: plist missing configuration file
o ports/112097ghostscript-gpl-nox11 compile fails due to missing fil
o ports/112115ghostscript-gpl-nox11 compile fails due to missing fil
f ports/112118[PATCH] sysutils/pipemeter: fix crashes
o ports/112197[MAINTAINER UPDATE]: devel/libstrfunc upgrade to 8.3
f ports/112277MD5 and SHA256 mismatch for science/hdf5
f ports/112280MD5 and SHA256 mismatch for science/hdf5
f ports/112287www/rt36: add missed patches for MULTIPLE_INSTANCES
o ports/112389[MAINTAINER] mail/MailScanner: update to 4.59.4
f ports/112468sysutils/bacula-server 2.0.3 port build fails for sqli

33 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker  Resp.  Description

s ports/59254 ports that write something after bsd.port.mk
o ports/94921 isakmpd fails on amd64
o ports/95854 New Port: www/ochusha
o ports/100896[new ports] emulators/vmware-server-guestd1 emulators/
o ports/101275bug fixed in sudo that prevented use in LDAP user acco
o ports/103395security/gnome-ssh-askpass interferes with gnome-scree
o ports/107354net/icmpinfo: icmpinfo -vvv does not recocnize any ICM
f ports/107368audio/normalize: [patch] - normalize-mp3 and normalize
f ports/107621net/proxychains doens't compile on 4 and 5
f ports/107937jailed net/isc-dhcp3-server wouldn't run with an immut
f ports/108104print/hplip: documentation gets installed though NOPOR
o ports/108595pstree (sysutils/psmisc) don't work in jail
f ports/108723kxgenerator never worked for me
f ports/108788[patch]  sysutils/fusefs-kmod: Add BASE option
f ports/108801www/mod_perl2: 

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ksubeditor

2007-05-07 Thread José Freitas
Dear Sirs
I downloaded ksubeditor and now I don't know nothing about it.
How to install?
What are the system requirements?
Does it work with windows Xp home Edition?
Please if you can tell me something.
Best Regards,
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Re: ksubeditor

2007-05-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Monday 07 May 2007 08:44:01 am José Freitas wrote:
 Dear Sirs
 I downloaded ksubeditor and now I don't know nothing about it.
 How to install?

# cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ksubeditor
# maje install clean

 What are the system requirements?

You also need to have the following packages installed:
OpenEXR-1.4.0 arts-1.5.6_1,1 aspell-0.60.5 bitstream-vera-1.10_3 
cups-base-1.2.10 expat-2.0.0_1 flac-1.1.2_1 fontconfig-2.4.2_1,1 
freetype2-2.2.1_1 gamin-0.1.8 gettext-0.16.1_1 glib-2.12.12 gnutls-1.6.2 
hicolor-icon-theme-0.10_2 jackit-0.103.0 jasper-1.900.1 jpeg-6b_4 
kdehier-1.0_11 kdelibs-3.5.6_2 lcms-1.16_1,1 libXft-2.1.7_1 
libart_lgpl-2.3.19,1 libaudiofile-0.2.6 libdrm-2.0.2 libgcrypt-1.2.4_1 
libgpg-error-1.4_1 libiconv-1.9.2_2 libidn-0.6.10 libmad-0.15.1b_2 
libmng-1.0.9 libogg-1.1.3,3 libsndfile-1.0.17 libthai-0.1.5_1 
libvorbis-1.1.2,3 libxml2-2.6.27 libxslt-1.1.20 mDNSResponder-108 nas-1.8 
pcre-7.0_1 perl-5.8.8 pkg-config-0.21 png-1.2.14 portaudio-18.1_2 qt-3.3.8_2 
tiff-3.8.2_1 xorg-clients-6.9.0_3 xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1 xterm-225

 Does it work with windows Xp home Edition?

No. It requires a POSIX compliant system.
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How to prevent make compiling a binary?

2007-05-07 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Hello list,

I've tar'ed and gzip'ed a binary library. Put on a web-server. Wrote a
Makefile like the Porter's Handbook describes. It fetches the *.tar.gz
and so on.

But during the make install he asks for a Makefile (I think
PORTNAME/work/DISTNAME/Makefile) but there is no Makefile because it is
not needed. The library is compiled!

I thought the NO_BUILD= yes would be enough. But it seems I need
addiotional work.

Again: I want to prevent make to search for */work/*/Makefile!

Can somebody kick me to the right direction?

With regards
Stevan Tiefert




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Re: How to prevent make compiling a binary?

2007-05-07 Thread Scot Hetzel

On 5/7/07, Stevan Tiefert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello list,

I've tar'ed and gzip'ed a binary library. Put on a web-server. Wrote a
Makefile like the Porter's Handbook describes. It fetches the *.tar.gz
and so on.

But during the make install he asks for a Makefile (I think
PORTNAME/work/DISTNAME/Makefile) but there is no Makefile because it is
not needed. The library is compiled!

I thought the NO_BUILD= yes would be enough. But it seems I need
addiotional work.

Again: I want to prevent make to search for */work/*/Makefile!

Can somebody kick me to the right direction?


Create a do-install target in your ports Makefile that installs the
binary file.

Scot

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Re: How to prevent make compiling a binary?

2007-05-07 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Am Montag, den 07.05.2007, 10:54 -0500 schrieb Scot Hetzel:
 On 5/7/07, Stevan Tiefert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello list,
 
  I've tar'ed and gzip'ed a binary library. Put on a web-server. Wrote a
  Makefile like the Porter's Handbook describes. It fetches the *.tar.gz
  and so on.
 
  But during the make install he asks for a Makefile (I think
  PORTNAME/work/DISTNAME/Makefile) but there is no Makefile because it is
  not needed. The library is compiled!
 
  I thought the NO_BUILD= yes would be enough. But it seems I need
  addiotional work.
 
  Again: I want to prevent make to search for */work/*/Makefile!
 
  Can somebody kick me to the right direction?
 
 Create a do-install target in your ports Makefile that installs the
 binary file.
 
 Scot
 

And I was searching like a ... Ok, Thanks :-)







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ports sysutils/puppet

2007-05-07 Thread Russell Jackson
The ports tree has been frozen for the modular xorg merge, so there's no chance 
of a
version bump going in ATM, but are you working on upgrading the port to 0.22.4? 
A simple
PORTVERSION bump seems to work, but I'm not familiar with the local patches so 
know if
there would be any issues, and of course the pkg-plist could be wrong.

Also, I reported on puppet-users not too long ago about the hang-on-exec-fix 
patch in
the port causing (ironically) execs to fail; so, I've resorted to using a local 
port with
the patch removed. Any information/advice on this issue?

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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Doug Barton

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Hi all,

After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we
are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade.  Because this is a
huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very carefully.


Good news that this is moving forward! Congrats to all involved.


The current plan is the following:

2) Final prep work in git repository.  We need a day or two to confirm
the upgrade method for users.  Unfortunately testing has exposed a
critical deficiency in portupgrade so 'portupgrade -a' will not be
enough to give a working upgrade, and some pre-upgrade steps will be
required. 


Has portmaster been evaluated as an upgrade tool? I'm in a better 
position atm to be able to address any deficiencies if that will help 
speed this along.



Also a post-upgrade step is required to deal with merging
remaining files from /usr/X11R6 into /usr/local.

3) Once the proposed upgrade method is in place, we will publish a
tarball of the prepared ports tree and request that *all* our ports
developers test the upgrade on their own machines before it is
committed to CVS.  There are many things that can go wrong and we need
to make sure that the upgrade goes as smoothly as possible for our
less technical users.  In particular all ports committers are expected
to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :)


Any updates on a timeline for this?


4) Once a suitable number of success reports (e.g. 50) are received
and all reported issues are resolved, we'll proceed with importing
into CVS.

5) CVS will stay frozen for a period to be evaluated (probably another
couple of weeks) to deal with the inevitable remaining fallout as
users encounter yet more problems with the upgrade.


Do you intend to keep the entire ports tree frozen for weeks? Perhaps 
I misunderstand?


Doug

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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:38:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we
 are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade.  Because this is a
 huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very carefully.
 
 Good news that this is moving forward! Congrats to all involved.
 
 The current plan is the following:
 
 2) Final prep work in git repository.  We need a day or two to confirm
 the upgrade method for users.  Unfortunately testing has exposed a
 critical deficiency in portupgrade so 'portupgrade -a' will not be
 enough to give a working upgrade, and some pre-upgrade steps will be
 required. 
 
 Has portmaster been evaluated as an upgrade tool? I'm in a better 
 position atm to be able to address any deficiencies if that will help 
 speed this along.

No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.

 Also a post-upgrade step is required to deal with merging
 remaining files from /usr/X11R6 into /usr/local.
 
 3) Once the proposed upgrade method is in place, we will publish a
 tarball of the prepared ports tree and request that *all* our ports
 developers test the upgrade on their own machines before it is
 committed to CVS.  There are many things that can go wrong and we need
 to make sure that the upgrade goes as smoothly as possible for our
 less technical users.  In particular all ports committers are expected
 to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :)
 
 Any updates on a timeline for this?

Some time this week

 
 4) Once a suitable number of success reports (e.g. 50) are received
 and all reported issues are resolved, we'll proceed with importing
 into CVS.
 
 5) CVS will stay frozen for a period to be evaluated (probably another
 couple of weeks) to deal with the inevitable remaining fallout as
 users encounter yet more problems with the upgrade.
 
 Do you intend to keep the entire ports tree frozen for weeks? Perhaps 
 I misunderstand?

Yes, that is the plan.  This is an all hands event, and keeping it
frozen is the best way to focus developers onto those tasks.

Kris
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Re: How to prevent make compiling a binary?

2007-05-07 Thread Stanislav Sedov
On Mon, 07 May 2007 17:05:26 +0200
Stevan Tiefert [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 Hello list,

 I've tar'ed and gzip'ed a binary library. Put on a web-server. Wrote a
 Makefile like the Porter's Handbook describes. It fetches the *.tar.gz
 and so on.

 But during the make install he asks for a Makefile (I think
 PORTNAME/work/DISTNAME/Makefile) but there is no Makefile because it is
 not needed. The library is compiled!

 I thought the NO_BUILD= yes would be enough. But it seems I need
 addiotional work.

 Again: I want to prevent make to search for */work/*/Makefile!

 Can somebody kick me to the right direction?

NO_BUILD should generally work. Could you, please, post the entire
Makefile here for us to help you?

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irc/unreal won't compile

2007-05-07 Thread Jim Nasby

I'm getting the following when trying to compile unrealircd:

Building src
/usr/local/bin/ccache gcc -I../include -I/usr/ports/irc/unreal/work/ 
Unreal3.2/extras/regexp/include -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe   
-DNO_IDEA -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -DZIP_LINKS -export- 
dynamic  -L/usr/local/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib  -c timesynch.c
/usr/local/bin/ccache gcc -I../include -I/usr/ports/irc/unreal/work/ 
Unreal3.2/extras/regexp/include -pipe -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe   
-DNO_IDEA -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -DZIP_LINKS -export- 
dynamic  -L/usr/local/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib  -c res.c

res.c: In function `m_dns':
res.c:718: error: storage size of 'inf' isn't known
*** Error code 1

It compiles fine when I untar to my home directory and run the exact  
same configure as reported by config.log in the ports work directory:


./configure --with-listen=5 --with-dpath=/usr/local/etc/Unreal --with- 
spath=/usr/local/libexec/ircd --with-nick-history=2000 --with- 
sendq=300 --with-bufferpool=18 --with-permissions=0600 --with-fd- 
setsize=1024 --enable-dynamic-linking --enable-hub --enable-ziplinks  
--enable-ssl


I attempted to submit a pr on this with send-pr, but never got a  
reply back...

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[FreeBSD port lapack-3.0_2] fails to install libblas.a

2007-05-07 Thread Yuri
I tried to use port 'lapack' and found that many symbols are only in libblas.a
that isn't installed.

So it should be installed along with libblas.so.

Thanx,
Yuri
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Re: irc/unreal won't compile

2007-05-07 Thread Martin Wilke
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 14:00:10 -0500
Jim Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|I'm getting the following when trying to compile unrealircd:
|
|
|I attempted to submit a pr on this with send-pr, but never got a  
|reply back...


not quite correct :).


From: Martin Wilke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Wilke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim C.Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ports/112221: irc/unreal won't compile
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:59:39 +0200
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Hi Jim and Gerrit,


./configure --with-listen=5 --with-dpath=/usr/local/etc/Unreal
- - --with-spath=/usr/local/libexec/ircd --with-nick-history=2000
- - --with-sendq=300 --with-bufferpool=18 --with-permissions=0600
- - --with-fd-setsize=1024 --enable-dynamic-linking --enable-hub
- --enable-ziplinks --enable-ssl ===  Building for Unreal-3.2.6
Building src
cc -I../include
- - -I/usr/ports/irc/unreal/work/Unreal3.2/extras/regexp/include -pipe
- - -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe  -DNO_IDEA -funsigned-char
- - -fno-strict-aliasing -DZIP_LINKS -export-dynamic  -L/usr/local/lib
- -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib  -c timesynch.c cc -I../include
- - -I/usr/ports/irc/unreal/work/Unreal3.2/extras/regexp/include -pipe
- - -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe  -DNO_IDEA -funsigned-char
- - -fno-strict-aliasing -DZIP_LINKS -export-dynamic  -L/usr/local/lib
- -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib  -c res.c res.c: In function `m_dns':
res.c:718: error: storage size of 'inf' isn't known
*** Error code 1


Jim we now this problem. Please take a look in the Discussion [1]. This
should solved your compielier error.

[1]
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-March/039619.html

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Re: irc/unreal won't compile

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 02:00:10PM -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
  I'm getting the following when trying to compile unrealircd:

This has been discussed before.  Please see the below thread:

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg05997.html

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Re: How to prevent make compiling a binary?

2007-05-07 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Am Montag, den 07.05.2007, 20:12 +0400 schrieb Stanislav Sedov:
 On Mon, 07 May 2007 17:05:26 +0200
 Stevan Tiefert [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:
 
  Hello list,
 
  I've tar'ed and gzip'ed a binary library. Put on a web-server. Wrote a
  Makefile like the Porter's Handbook describes. It fetches the *.tar.gz
  and so on.
 
  But during the make install he asks for a Makefile (I think
  PORTNAME/work/DISTNAME/Makefile) but there is no Makefile because it is
  not needed. The library is compiled!
 
  I thought the NO_BUILD= yes would be enough. But it seems I need
  addiotional work.
 
  Again: I want to prevent make to search for */work/*/Makefile!
 
  Can somebody kick me to the right direction?
 
 NO_BUILD should generally work. Could you, please, post the entire
 Makefile here for us to help you?
 
 --
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Thank you for trying helping me. I am very thankfully but with the
do-install: -thing is it working!!! :-)  I have already posted my port
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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 13:42:31 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:38:46AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:
Hi all,

After many months of hard work (mostly by flz@, as well as others) we
are approaching readiness of the xorg 7.2 upgrade.  Because this is a
huge and disruptive change, we're going to approach it very carefully.

Good news that this is moving forward! Congrats to all involved.

The current plan is the following:

2) Final prep work in git repository.  We need a day or two to confirm
the upgrade method for users.  Unfortunately testing has exposed a
critical deficiency in portupgrade so 'portupgrade -a' will not be
enough to give a working upgrade, and some pre-upgrade steps will be
required.

Has portmaster been evaluated as an upgrade tool? I'm in a better
position atm to be able to address any deficiencies if that will help
speed this along.


My plan is to run 'portmaster -r pkg-config\*'. I think it should do fine  
as 'portmaster -r' will do it in order very well.



No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.


I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get build  
function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default, because  
put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:


http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q2
==
[...]
Prevent two versions of the same library.

A common source of build failures is the existence of multiple versions of  
the same library. This can happen if you have two different versions of a  
port installed, or can even happen through normal portupgrade use. You can  
back up the libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg and remove them, and  
then run portupgrade -u -rf pkg-config. This will force a rebuild of all  
GNOME-related apps (and a fair number of other apps) without retaining old  
versions of libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg.

==

Cheers,
Mezz


Also a post-upgrade step is required to deal with merging
remaining files from /usr/X11R6 into /usr/local.

3) Once the proposed upgrade method is in place, we will publish a
tarball of the prepared ports tree and request that *all* our ports
developers test the upgrade on their own machines before it is
committed to CVS.  There are many things that can go wrong and we need
to make sure that the upgrade goes as smoothly as possible for our
less technical users.  In particular all ports committers are expected
to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :)

Any updates on a timeline for this?


Some time this week



4) Once a suitable number of success reports (e.g. 50) are received
and all reported issues are resolved, we'll proceed with importing
into CVS.

5) CVS will stay frozen for a period to be evaluated (probably another
couple of weeks) to deal with the inevitable remaining fallout as
users encounter yet more problems with the upgrade.

Do you intend to keep the entire ports tree frozen for weeks? Perhaps
I misunderstand?


Yes, that is the plan.  This is an all hands event, and keeping it
frozen is the best way to focus developers onto those tasks.

Kris



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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

 No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
 saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
 a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.
 
 I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get build  
 function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default, because  
 put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:

No, it is required when dealing with shared library bumps (which
happen about once a week).  Otherwise all of the installed ports using
the library break if the new library build fails.  Talk to Brooks
about how annoying this is with e.g. gettext.

 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q2
 ==
 [...]
 Prevent two versions of the same library.
 
 A common source of build failures is the existence of multiple versions of  
 the same library. This can happen if you have two different versions of a  
 port installed, or can even happen through normal portupgrade use. You can  
 back up the libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg and remove them, and  
 then run portupgrade -u -rf pkg-config. This will force a rebuild of all  
 GNOME-related apps (and a fair number of other apps) without retaining old  
 versions of libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg.
 ==

I dispute the correctness of this entry.  The old libraries in
lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds.  The only
situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions
of the library is if it pulls in a library dependency from an existing
port that is still linked to the old library.  In this situation the
build would be broken with or without lib/compat/pkg (in the latter
case, you have an installed port linked to a library that is entirely
missing, so that port will be nonfunctional).

Kris
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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:


No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.

I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get build
function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default, because
put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:


No, it is required when dealing with shared library bumps (which
happen about once a week).  Otherwise all of the installed ports using
the library break if the new library build fails.  Talk to Brooks
about how annoying this is with e.g. gettext.


portmaster has a feature to backup the old package before the upgrade. I  
think it is better than put in lib/compat/pkg. When I used portupgrade and  
I always have lib/compat/pkg disabled until I switched to portmaster. I  
never have that problem when ports tree is flexible enough to downgrade  
and wait until someone fix it.


Cheers,
Mezz


http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q2
==
[...]
Prevent two versions of the same library.

A common source of build failures is the existence of multiple versions  
of
the same library. This can happen if you have two different versions of  
a
port installed, or can even happen through normal portupgrade use. You  
can

back up the libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg and remove them, and
then run portupgrade -u -rf pkg-config. This will force a rebuild of all
GNOME-related apps (and a fair number of other apps) without retaining  
old

versions of libraries in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg.
==


I dispute the correctness of this entry.  The old libraries in
lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds.  The only
situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions
of the library is if it pulls in a library dependency from an existing
port that is still linked to the old library.  In this situation the
build would be broken with or without lib/compat/pkg (in the latter
case, you have an installed port linked to a library that is entirely
missing, so that port will be nonfunctional).

Kris



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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
 On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
 
 No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
 saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
 a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.
 
 I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get build
 function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default, because
 put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:
 
 No, it is required when dealing with shared library bumps (which
 happen about once a week).  Otherwise all of the installed ports using
 the library break if the new library build fails.  Talk to Brooks
 about how annoying this is with e.g. gettext.
 
 portmaster has a feature to backup the old package before the upgrade. I  
 think it is better than put in lib/compat/pkg. When I used portupgrade and  
 I always have lib/compat/pkg disabled until I switched to portmaster. I  
 never have that problem when ports tree is flexible enough to downgrade  
 and wait until someone fix it.

Well, is this feature enabled by default and does it completely back
out the upgrade if it fails?  I may be wrong, but I doubt it is going
to do a complete recursive backout of the upgrade if e.g. one of the
ports depending on the new library fails to build after the library
was updated.  If it just restores the old version of this port then it
will be restoring a nonfunctional port, since it links to the version
of the library that was already deleted.

The issue is about providing seat-belts for our users who just want
failed upgrades not to destroy their system.  Even if you think that
backing up the package is a better solution than preserving the shared
libraries, it seems to me that portmaster still falls short here
because it doesn't provide a rollback mechanism to restore the system
to a working state when an upgrade fails.

 I dispute the correctness of this entry.  The old libraries in
 lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds.  The only
 situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions
 of the library is if it pulls in a library dependency from an existing
 port that is still linked to the old library.  In this situation the
 build would be broken with or without lib/compat/pkg (in the latter
 case, you have an installed port linked to a library that is entirely
 missing, so that port will be nonfunctional).
 
 Kris

I guess your silence means you agree with me here :)

Kris
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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 04:44:14PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
  On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  wrote:
  
  On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
  
  No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
  saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about this
  a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.
  
  I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get build
  function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default, because
  put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:
  
  No, it is required when dealing with shared library bumps (which
  happen about once a week).  Otherwise all of the installed ports using
  the library break if the new library build fails.  Talk to Brooks
  about how annoying this is with e.g. gettext.
  
  portmaster has a feature to backup the old package before the upgrade. I  
  think it is better than put in lib/compat/pkg. When I used portupgrade and  
  I always have lib/compat/pkg disabled until I switched to portmaster. I  
  never have that problem when ports tree is flexible enough to downgrade  
  and wait until someone fix it.
 
 Well, is this feature enabled by default and does it completely back
 out the upgrade if it fails?  I may be wrong, but I doubt it is going
 to do a complete recursive backout of the upgrade if e.g. one of the
 ports depending on the new library fails to build after the library
 was updated.  If it just restores the old version of this port then it
 will be restoring a nonfunctional port, since it links to the version
 of the library that was already deleted.
 
 The issue is about providing seat-belts for our users who just want
 failed upgrades not to destroy their system.  Even if you think that
 backing up the package is a better solution than preserving the shared
 libraries, it seems to me that portmaster still falls short here
 because it doesn't provide a rollback mechanism to restore the system
 to a working state when an upgrade fails.

For a number of failure modes, the use of pkg_create -b can't do this.
In particularly, pkg_create -b can't ignore missing files (because tar
can't in turn) so you can't make a package of anything with a missing
file.  The latest versions of portmaster allow you to ignore this error
by default since it's not as if there's anything else you could do, but
in that situation there's no backing out.  Fixing pkg_create would help
here.

The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all
the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that
depends on them as well.  For example the gettext upgrade got triggered
on my laptop by upgrading something the used gmake.  The result was that
virtually nothing outside the base worked any more.  Saving the shared
library would have prevented this and allowed a more graceful upgrade
over a few weeks.  The fact that a basic desktop setup takes days to
build on fairly fast hardware seems to be an indication that we need a
workaround here.  There are other possible solutions, but saving copied
of libraries seems to be the accepted one at the moment.

-- Brooks


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Problem running acroread7 on 6.2

2007-05-07 Thread Jeffrey Williams
I just installed acroread7-7.0.9,1 from ports on a new FreeBSD 6.2-p3 
system.


It will not run, when I attempt to run it from the command line, I get 
the following error:


:~ acroread
ELF binary type 3 not known.
ldconfig: illegal option -- p
usage: ldconfig [-32] [-aout | -elf] [-Rimrsv] [-f hints_file] 
[directory | file ...]

ELF binary type 3 not known.
/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: 1: 
Syntax error: ( unexpected

:~

Any ideas? did I miss a compile time option during the install?

Thanks
Jeff
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Re: Problem running acroread7 on 6.2

2007-05-07 Thread Martin Tournoij
On Mon 07 May 2007 13:05, Jeffrey Williams wrote:
 I just installed acroread7-7.0.9,1 from ports on a new FreeBSD 6.2-p3 system.
 
 It will not run, when I attempt to run it from the command line, I get the 
 following error:
 
 :~ acroread
 ELF binary type 3 not known.
 ldconfig: illegal option -- p
 usage: ldconfig [-32] [-aout | -elf] [-Rimrsv] [-f hints_file] [directory | 
 file ...]
 ELF binary type 3 not known.
 /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: 1: Syntax 
 error: ( unexpected
 :~
 
 Any ideas? did I miss a compile time option during the install?
 
 Thanks
 Jeff
Do you have Linux compatibility enabled?

To enable it, add this to your /etc/rc.conf:
linux_enable=yes

And this to your /boot/loader.conf (Create the file if it doesn't
exists yet)
linux_load=YES

To start it manually (without rebooting):
kldload linux
sh /etc/rc.d/abi start

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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:44:14 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:35:48PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:14:48 -0500, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 03:09:06PM -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

No, at a minimum I am not comfortable recommending its use until it
saves old shared libraries across updates (I sent you email about  
this

a while ago), which is a vital safety and robustness mechanism.

I am one of people that dislike this and it is not required to get  
build
function. ;-) I think this option should be disable by default,  
because

put stuff in lib/compat/pkg hides the problems. Also:

No, it is required when dealing with shared library bumps (which
happen about once a week).  Otherwise all of the installed ports using
the library break if the new library build fails.  Talk to Brooks
about how annoying this is with e.g. gettext.

portmaster has a feature to backup the old package before the upgrade. I
think it is better than put in lib/compat/pkg. When I used portupgrade  
and

I always have lib/compat/pkg disabled until I switched to portmaster. I
never have that problem when ports tree is flexible enough to downgrade
and wait until someone fix it.


Well, is this feature enabled by default and does it completely back
out the upgrade if it fails?


Default.. I am not sure, but I just know that there has option and I have  
disable backup in my configure. As for the second question, no, I don't  
think it doesn't. The users have to do it by manual to reinstall it.  
Correct me if I am wrong. [read other replied from Brooks] Brooks said  
that pkg_create has problems that need to be solve. I guess, it has shoot  
this down.



I may be wrong, but I doubt it is going
to do a complete recursive backout of the upgrade if e.g. one of the


You are right, it doesn't. I don't think it will be easy to add this  
feature.



ports depending on the new library fails to build after the library
was updated.  If it just restores the old version of this port then it
will be restoring a nonfunctional port, since it links to the version
of the library that was already deleted.


I think it is rare and will get fix quickly (most of time). It shows real  
problem rather than hide it by using old library. This is what I like it.  
It helps our package to be more stable in both build and runtime.



The issue is about providing seat-belts for our users who just want
failed upgrades not to destroy their system.  Even if you think that
backing up the package is a better solution than preserving the shared
libraries,


Yes, I think backing up is a better solution. For example, when library  
has been bumped but also the plugins, format of configure file or whatever  
have been complete revamp. The lib/compat/pkg won't help and the backup  
will.


As Brooks said, 'There are other possible solutions, but saving copied of  
libraries seems to be the accepted one at the moment.' The 'accepted' is  
opposite for me. It's why I am suggesting to disable it by default if  
someone is going to add it in portmaster for any users that don't want or  
have time to help. ;-)



it seems to me that portmaster still falls short here
because it doesn't provide a rollback mechanism to restore the system
to a working state when an upgrade fails.


I dispute the correctness of this entry.  The old libraries in
lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds.  The only
situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions
of the library is if it pulls in a library dependency from an existing
port that is still linked to the old library.  In this situation the
build would be broken with or without lib/compat/pkg (in the latter
case, you have an installed port linked to a library that is entirely
missing, so that port will be nonfunctional).

Kris


I guess your silence means you agree with me here :)


Yeah, I guess and unsure at the same time since I didn't write this entry.  
:-)


Cheers,
Mezz


Kris



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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Thierry Thomas
Le Lun  7 mai 07 à 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 écrivait :

 The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all
 the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that
 depends on them as well.  For example the gettext upgrade got triggered
 on my laptop by upgrading something the used gmake.  The result was that
 virtually nothing outside the base worked any more.  Saving the shared
 library would have prevented this and allowed a more graceful upgrade
 over a few weeks.  The fact that a basic desktop setup takes days to
 build on fairly fast hardware seems to be an indication that we need a
 workaround here.  There are other possible solutions, but saving copied
 of libraries seems to be the accepted one at the moment.

For this kind of upgrades, it's possible to add

libgettextpo.so.1   libgettextpo.so.3
libintl.so.6libintl.so.8

in your /etc/libmap.conf. Just delete these lines after the storm...
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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:06:59AM +0200, Thierry Thomas wrote:
 Le Lun  7 mai 07 ? 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ?crivait?:
 
  The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all
  the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that
  depends on them as well.  For example the gettext upgrade got triggered
  on my laptop by upgrading something the used gmake.  The result was that
  virtually nothing outside the base worked any more.  Saving the shared
  library would have prevented this and allowed a more graceful upgrade
  over a few weeks.  The fact that a basic desktop setup takes days to
  build on fairly fast hardware seems to be an indication that we need a
  workaround here.  There are other possible solutions, but saving copied
  of libraries seems to be the accepted one at the moment.
 
 For this kind of upgrades, it's possible to add
 
 libgettextpo.so.1 libgettextpo.so.3
 libintl.so.6  libintl.so.8
 
 in your /etc/libmap.conf. Just delete these lines after the storm...

I did found out too late that it works in this case, but it's not a
general solution since it only works if the bump was pointless and thus
there aren't prototype mismatches.

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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:06:59AM +0200, Thierry Thomas wrote:
 Le Lun  7 mai 07 ? 22:58:50 +0200, Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ?crivait?:
 
  The other problem is that if you're going to automatically update all
  the dependencies for a port, you need to upgrade all the stuff that
  depends on them as well.  For example the gettext upgrade got triggered
  on my laptop by upgrading something the used gmake.  The result was that
  virtually nothing outside the base worked any more.  Saving the shared
  library would have prevented this and allowed a more graceful upgrade
  over a few weeks.  The fact that a basic desktop setup takes days to
  build on fairly fast hardware seems to be an indication that we need a
  workaround here.  There are other possible solutions, but saving copied
  of libraries seems to be the accepted one at the moment.
 
 For this kind of upgrades, it's possible to add
 
 libgettextpo.so.1 libgettextpo.so.3
 libintl.so.6  libintl.so.8
 
 in your /etc/libmap.conf. Just delete these lines after the storm...

It is possible, but this is not something that non-technical users
will think of (nor should they have to).

The question is whether portmaster is to be considered as a tool for
advanced users only (those who are capable of cleaning up and
repairing damage themselves when an upgrade fails), or if it is
intended as a tool for ordinary users who don't want to (or are not
capable of) doing this kind of manual repair work.

If the goal is the former, then that's OK, but if it is the latter,
then an honest evaluation leads one to conclude that portmaster is
still in the process of maturing towards achieving this goal.

Kris


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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 18:26 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  I dispute the correctness of this entry.  The old libraries in
  lib/compat/pkg are not linked to directly by new builds.  The only
  situation in which something might end up being linked to 2 versions
  of the library is if it pulls in a library dependency from an existing
  port that is still linked to the old library.  In this situation the
  build would be broken with or without lib/compat/pkg (in the latter
  case, you have an installed port linked to a library that is entirely
  missing, so that port will be nonfunctional).
  
  Kris
  
  I guess your silence means you agree with me here :)
  
  Yeah, I guess and unsure at the same time since I didn't write this entry.  
  :-)
 
 OK.

I didn't write it either, but it holds some truth.  Yes, not having the
library at all would cause a build failure, but having multiple versions
of the same library can lead to runtime failures.  It's much easier to
troubleshoot a missing .so that it is to hunt down strange runtime
failures (usually).

I'm not arguing for or against portmaster, or the keeping old shared
objects functionality.  I'm just putting this FAQ entry in context.
Yes, perhaps it could be re-worded for clarity.

Joe

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HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Brian Gruber
Ok, no worries then. I have no plans to add that
feature at this time, 
partly because there has been no user demand for it,
and mostly 
because I don't like the idea. I recognize however
that reasonable 
minds may differ on that topic.

if you don't like the idea, that's fine, but since you
say there's been no user demand, i just thought i
should note that I tried portmaster a few months ago.
while there were things i like, i ultimately switched
back to portupgrade specifically because it lacked old
library preservation.

/brian


 

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Re: games/sauerbraten

2007-05-07 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Sam Stein wrote:
 There is a new version out; the port has an old one, the new version works
 fine; I've emailed the maintainer twice; no reply.. what should I do now?

Submit a PR and request a maintainer timeout. This will take a long time, but 
it's the only way.

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Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans

2007-05-07 Thread Garrett Cooper

Brian Gruber wrote:

Ok, no worries then. I have no plans to add that
feature at this time, 

partly because there has been no user demand for it,
and mostly 

because I don't like the idea. I recognize however
that reasonable 

minds may differ on that topic.


if you don't like the idea, that's fine, but since you
say there's been no user demand, i just thought i
should note that I tried portmaster a few months ago.
while there were things i like, i ultimately switched
back to portupgrade specifically because it lacked old
library preservation.

/brian


Just a thought, but have people considered pushing nVidia and (gasp), 
maybe ATI for driver support in 7.2? I would think that AMD would at 
least consider FreeBSD if we moved to 7.2 because it seems like they 
want to get on the bandwagon with more recent versions of Linux nowadays 
with their OpenGL driver support.


Cheers,

-Garrett
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