Conflict subversion sitecopy

2008-09-08 Thread Lars Eighner

It appears to me from 7-STABLE, that there is a conflict between sitecopy
and subversion as that sitecopy insists on neon26 and subversion requires
neon28.

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USE_GECKO=firefox and firefox3

2008-09-08 Thread Norberto Meijome
Hi all,
I have firefox3 installed. my make.conf shows USE_GECKO=firefox.

When I try to install any port (in particular today, the latest eclipse 3.3.2 )
which uses USE_GECKO, www/firefox is pulled into the dependencies, rather tha
firefox3.

I use portupgrade to launch the eclipse upgrade ( portupgrade -p eclipse ) ,
and my /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf contains the following relevant entries:


 ALT_PKGDEP = {
'www/mozilla' = 'www/firefox3',
'www/firefox' = 'www/firefox3',
'firefox-2*' = 'firefox-3*',
'firefox' = 'firefox3',
[...]
}

still, no luck, ffox 2 gets pulled in.

should Mk/bsd.gecko.mk have support for firefox3 ? Is there any solution,other
than deinstalling ffox3, install ffox2, install eclipse, and then replace ffox2
with 3 ? 

 ( I *suspect* that portupgrade -o {ffox something} {ffox other} eclipse would
do , but not entirely sure how it works

Thanks for any help!!
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Re: Portupgrade has serious problems

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
On Sunday 07 September 2008 13:41:14 David Southwell wrote:
 On Friday 05 September 2008 09:16:23 you wrote:
  David Southwell wrote:
   On Thursday 04 September 2008 09:38:22 you wrote:
   David Southwell wrote:
   On Tuesday 02 September 2008 08:26:26 you wrote:
   Show please an output of the command:
   pkg_info -o apache-2.2.9
  
   Following up this one here is another weirdo::
   ttp://httpd.apache.org/
   ===  Cleaning for apache-2.2.9_5
   ---  Cleaning out obsolete shared libraries
   [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 1047
   packages found (-0 +1) . done]
   ---  Skipping 'bsdpan-Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0302' because it is held
   by user (specify -f to force)
   ---  Skipping 'devel/p5-IO' because it is held by user (specify -f
   to force) ---  Skipping 'graphics/ImageMagick' (ImageMagick-6.4.3.4)
   because a requisite package 'apache-2.2.9_3' () failed (specify -k to
   force) ---  Skipping 'bsdpan-Shell-0.72' because it is held by user
   (specify -f to force)
   ---  Skipping 'misc/p5-Array-Compare' because it is held by user
   (specify -f to force)
   ---  Skipping 'devel/p5-Devel-Symdump' because it is held by user
   (specify -f to force)
   ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
  
  
   Here we have another example of portupgrade gets its dependencies in
   a twist.
  
   Not install Image-Magick on the grounds that apache, which it has
   just upgraded does not have the previous version installed.
  
   This is a constant repeat of the same problem as has happened with
   kde and elsewjhere
  
   Just again. Show pkg_info -o apache-2.2.9_5 please.
  
   Here is output..
  
   But how does it help?
 
  It helps me to uderstand why there is no origin in the line:
  because a requisite package 'apache-2.2.9_3' () failed (specify -k to
 
   Having installed the upgradefrom apache-2.2.9_3 to 2.2.9_5 the database
   naturally shows the result of upgrading the database. Is it not more
   about what version portupgrade is expecting to find? Having upgraded
   why dhould it expect to find  apache-2.2.9_3
 
  I don't know. After apache was updated portupgrade should rebuild its
  databases. It did it (line: [Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in
  /var/db/pkg ... - 1047 packages found (-0 +1) . done]). But for some
  reason it use old values.
  What version of db do you [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/spool/mqueue]# pkg_info
  |grep

 db
 apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4 Apache Portability Library
 db4-4.0.14_1,1  The Berkeley DB package, revision 4
 db42-4.2.52_5   The Berkeley DB package, revision 4.2
 dbus-1.2.1  A message bus system for inter-application
 communication dbus-glib-0.76  GLib bindings for the D-BUS messaging
 system
 gdb-6.6_1   GNU GDB of newer version than comes with the system
 gdbm-1.8.3_3The GNU database manager
 gnome-db-0.2.96_10  Provide uniform access to data sources for the GNOME
 enviro
 libcddb-1.3.0   A library to access data on a CDDB server
 qt4-dbus-4.4.1  Qt4 bindings for the D-BUS messaging system
 qt4-odbc-plugin-4.4.1 Qt ODBC database plugin
 qt4-qdbusviewer-4.4.1 Qt4 D-BUS viewer
 ruby18-bdb-0.6.4Ruby interface to Sleepycat's Berkeley DB revision 2 or
 lat
 xcmsdb-1.0.1Device Color Characterization utility for X
 xdbedizzy-1.0.2 Demo of DBE creating a double buffered spinning scene
 xrdb-1.0.4  X server resource database 

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/david]# pkg_info -o apache*
   Information for apache-2.2.9_5:
  
   Origin:
   www/apache22
  
   Information for apache-ant-1.7.0_2:
  
   Origin:
   devel/apache-ant


Here is another example:

[Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 1046 packages 
found (-1 +0) (...) done]
---  Installing the new version via the port
===  Installing for ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on 
file: /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/amd64-freebsd7/glib2.so - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on 
file: /usr/local/bin/ruby18 - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on executable: pkg-config - 
found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on 
file: /usr/local/lib/gio/modules/libgiofam.so - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on shared library: 
atk-1.0.0 - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on shared library: 
glib-2.0.0 - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on shared library: 
gtk-x11-2.0.0 - found
===   ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080905 depends on shared library: 
pango-1.0.0 - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if graphics/ruby-gdk_pixbuf2 already installed
/usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0755 
gdk_pixbuf2.so /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/amd64-freebsd7
install  -o root -g wheel -m 
444 
/usr/ports/graphics/ruby-gdk_pixbuf2/work/ruby-gnome2-all-0.16.0.20080905/gdkpixbuf/lib/gdk_pixbuf2.rb
 

net-p2p/torrentflux - fails: mtree

2008-09-08 Thread QAT
Hi,


The build which triggered this email is done under tinderbox-2.4.3, on 
7-STABLE on amd64, with tinderd_flags=-nullfs -plistcheck -onceonly
and ccache support, with the official up-to-date Ports Tree, with the
following vars set:
NOPORTDOCS=yes,  NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes, NOPORTDATA=yes, FORCE_PACKAGE=yes.


Excerpt from http://T64.TecNik93.com/logs/7-STABLE-FTP/torrentflux-2.0.b1.log :


building torrentflux-2.0.b1 in directory /var/tinderbox/7-STABLE-FTP
maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
building for:  7.0-STABLE amd64
port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/torrentflux
Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: ports/net-p2p/torrentflux/Makefile,v 1.5 2007/08/04 
11:41:13 gabor Exp $
prefixes: LOCALBASE=usr/local X11BASE=usr/local
NO* env vars: NOPORTDOCS=yes NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes NOPORTDATA=yes
build started at Mon Sep  8 11:40:16 UTC 2008

.Last 40 lines of the log..

===   torrentflux-2.0.b1 depends on file: 
/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/session.so - found
===   torrentflux-2.0.b1 depends on file: 
/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if net-p2p/torrentflux already installed
===  Download directory created.
===  Torrentflux database created.
===  kern.ps_arg_cache_limit: 256 - 1024



The TorrentFlux package has been successfully installed.

Files will be downloaded to /usr/local/share/torrentflux/data,
to check how much space is left on the partition, try
  df -H /usr/local/share/torrentflux/data

Visit the TorrentFlux forum at
  http://www.torrentflux.com/forum/
for more information.
  


===   Registering installation for torrentflux-2.0.b1

phase 7: make package
===  Building package for torrentflux-2.0.b1
Creating package /tmp/packages/All/torrentflux-2.0.b1.tbz
Registering depends: adodb-4.99.0 php5-sqlite-5.2.6_2 php5-spl-5.2.6_2 
php5-pcre-5.2.6_2 php5-session-5.2.6_2 php5-simplexml-5.2.6_2 php5-5.2.6_2 
libxml2-2.6.32 libiconv-1.11_1 sqlite-2.8.17_1 pkg-config-0.23_1 
py25-BitTornado-core-0.3.18_3,1 py25-pycrypto-2.0.1_1 python25-2.5.2_3 
libgmp-4.2.3.
Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/tmp/packages/All/torrentflux-2.0.b1.tbz'
Deleting torrentflux-2.0.b1

===  Deleted TorrentFlux database.



=== Checking filesystem state
list of extra files and directories in / (not present before this port was 
installed but present after it was deinstalled)
28734404 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 512 Sep 
 8 11:40 usr/local/www/data

build of /usr/ports/net-p2p/torrentflux ended at Mon Sep  8 11:40:37 UTC 2008


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Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
Hi

I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of our 
mail system.

I believe I have now fixed the main problem but I need a tool that will 
reliably, and independently of the mail logs check my network for all 
outgoing mails and hold them up until I am certain that there all loopholes 
have been closed.

Can anyone please let me have some recomendations on the best way of going 
about this

Thanks

David
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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
On Monday 08 September 2008 05:19:51 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
  I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of
  our mail system.
 
  I believe I have now fixed the main problem but I need a tool that will
  reliably, and independently of the mail logs check my network for all
  outgoing mails and hold them up until I am certain that there all
  loopholes have been closed.
 
  Can anyone please let me have some recomendations on the best way of
  going about this

 I'm not sure what exactly you want.  Someone compromising your system
 means they could've done *anything*, including running their own MTA,
 replacing libc to include an open proxy for spamming, or any other
 thing.  There's no way to detect that sort of thing aside from deep
 packet inspection to look for mail-like network traffic, which is
 predominantly the job of a router or network tap.  It's going to be
 impossible for you to 100% ensure the system is in a working state.

What happened was compromising 2 windows systems and installing a trojan on 
those two systems. They were used to send mail via the MTA's on the freebsd 
server to the outside world and in particular permissions to send mail to 
root on the freebsd server.

 There was no actual compromise of the freebsd server and the windows systems 
had no ability to access the server. 


 Keeping it simple, making the (horrible) assumption that they
 compromised something that affected your MTA: it depends completely an
 entirely on what MTA you're using (sendmail, postfix, etc.).  See the
 your MTA's manpages for looking at outbound/delivery mail queue.


In addition to the above I am loking for an additional way of monitoring smptd 
25 outbound traffic at the network level, filter the traffic, and do an extra 
checks to make sure there is nothing left when I reopen the service to the 
local network.

 By the way, and I apologise if I'm stepping over a line here, but fixed
 the main problem doesn't sound like you fixed anything.  You might have
 addressed the hole they used to get in on, but what makes you think
 they didn't replace binaries (including using touch -amcf to adjust
 a/m/ctimes) or do something even more sneaky?

The main problem was the trojan and stuff that it brought in. Hefty use of 
Kaspersky and about six other tools on the windows systems has  resolved the 
issue. I have not been able to detect any attempts from the windows systems 
to abuse the mail system but I want to monitor dynamically for some time.

 If someone compromised one of your systems, do the world a favour: pull
 the Ethernet out of it or have it shut off *immediately* (this is how
 MIT does it -- yes I'm serious), go to the datacentre and format the
 disk(s).  No I am not exaggerating.  The longer you keep that system up,
 the higher the chance is that you'll get contacted by your provider,
 Internet users (blacklisted, etc.), or possibly law enforcement.

You are not out of line -- I understand

That is why the system was shut down for 48 hours.

David


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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
 I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of our 
 mail system.
 
 I believe I have now fixed the main problem but I need a tool that will 
 reliably, and independently of the mail logs check my network for all 
 outgoing mails and hold them up until I am certain that there all loopholes 
 have been closed.
 
 Can anyone please let me have some recomendations on the best way of going 
 about this

I'm not sure what exactly you want.  Someone compromising your system
means they could've done *anything*, including running their own MTA,
replacing libc to include an open proxy for spamming, or any other
thing.  There's no way to detect that sort of thing aside from deep
packet inspection to look for mail-like network traffic, which is
predominantly the job of a router or network tap.  It's going to be
impossible for you to 100% ensure the system is in a working state.

Keeping it simple, making the (horrible) assumption that they
compromised something that affected your MTA: it depends completely an
entirely on what MTA you're using (sendmail, postfix, etc.).  See the
your MTA's manpages for looking at outbound/delivery mail queue.

By the way, and I apologise if I'm stepping over a line here, but fixed
the main problem doesn't sound like you fixed anything.  You might have
addressed the hole they used to get in on, but what makes you think
they didn't replace binaries (including using touch -amcf to adjust
a/m/ctimes) or do something even more sneaky?

If someone compromised one of your systems, do the world a favour: pull
the Ethernet out of it or have it shut off *immediately* (this is how
MIT does it -- yes I'm serious), go to the datacentre and format the
disk(s).  No I am not exaggerating.  The longer you keep that system up,
the higher the chance is that you'll get contacted by your provider,
Internet users (blacklisted, etc.), or possibly law enforcement.

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Re: Portupgrade has serious problems

2008-09-08 Thread Sergey Matveychuk

David Southwell wrote:
---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2' (ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706) because 
a requisite package 'ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080706' () failed 
(specify -k to force)


Empty brackets display a problem with a database. But for some reason it 
can't be detected by bdb engine.


---  Skipping 'devel/ruby-libglade2' (ruby18-libglade2-0.16.0.20080706) 
because a requisite package 'ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706' 
(x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2) failed (specify -k to force)


All these problems have identical symptoms and are fixed by rerunning 
portupgrade!!
It looks as though portupgrade is failing to reexamine the database after each 
upgrade OR is searching for a dependency which is limited to the previous 
version!


Could you remove both /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and /usr/ports/INDEX*.db and 
rerun portupgrade? They will be recreated automatically.


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HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 6.4 and 7.0 in effect

2008-09-08 Thread Erwin Lansing
In preparation for both the 6.4 and 7.1 releases, the ports tree has
been frozen.  All commits have to be approved by portmgr.  See the
portmgr webpage[1] for more information about what is and isn't allowed
during the freeze.  We are aiming for a short freeze period, so we will
be quite strict in allowing commits during the freeze.  Of course, we do
appreciate any help fixing existing errors in the tree, so if anyone is
bored, a good starting point will be portsmon[2].

Best,
-erwin

[1]: http://www.freebsd.org/portmgr/policies_committing.html
[2]: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portserrs.py

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net-p2p/teknap - fails: install_error

2008-09-08 Thread QAT
Hi,


The build which triggered this email is done under tinderbox-2.4.3, on 
7-STABLE on amd64, with tinderd_flags=-nullfs -plistcheck -onceonly
and ccache support, with the official up-to-date Ports Tree, with the
following vars set:
NOPORTDOCS=yes,  NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes, NOPORTDATA=yes, FORCE_PACKAGE=yes.


Excerpt from http://T64.TecNik93.com/logs/7-STABLE-FTP/TekNap-1.3.g_2.log :


building TekNap-1.3.g_2 in directory /var/tinderbox/7-STABLE-FTP
maintained by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
building for:  7.0-STABLE amd64
port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/teknap
Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: ports/net-p2p/teknap/Makefile,v 1.23 2008/01/09 
15:19:46 tabthorpe Exp $
prefixes: LOCALBASE=usr/local X11BASE=usr/local
NO* env vars: NOPORTDOCS=yes NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes NOPORTDATA=yes
build started at Mon Sep  8 11:37:20 UTC 2008

.Last 40 lines of the log..

tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/toupper: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/tow: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/tr: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/twiddle: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/uname: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/unlink: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/unshift: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/utime: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/winnum: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/winsize: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/word: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/wordtoindex: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/write: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/6_Functions/xmms: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/7_Docs: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Arrays: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Command_Line: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Environment: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Expressions: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Introduction: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Key_Bindings: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Patterns: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Programming: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Serial_Numbers: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Server_Numerics: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Signals: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Special_Vars: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Status_Line: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/TekNap/help/7_Docs/Text_Highlight: Cannot stat: No such file or 
directory
tar: share/doc/TekNap/README: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256
Creating package /tmp/packages/All/TekNap-1.3.g_2.tbz
Registering depends:.
Creating bzip'd tar ball in '/tmp/packages/All/TekNap-1.3.g_2.tbz'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /a/ports/net-p2p/teknap.

build of /usr/ports/net-p2p/teknap ended at Mon Sep  8 11:37:51 UTC 2008


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Re: Portupgrade has serious problems

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
On Monday 08 September 2008 05:42:48 David Southwell wrote:
 On Monday 08 September 2008 04:59:06 Sergey Matveychuk wrote:
  David Southwell wrote:
   ---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2' (ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706)
   because a requisite package 'ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080706' ()
   failed (specify -k to force)
 
  Empty brackets display a problem with a database. But for some reason it
  can't be detected by bdb engine.
 
   ---  Skipping 'devel/ruby-libglade2'
   (ruby18-libglade2-0.16.0.20080706) because a requisite package
   'ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706'
   (x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2) failed (specify -k to force)
  
   All these problems have identical symptoms and are fixed by rerunning
   portupgrade!!
   It looks as though portupgrade is failing to reexamine the database
   after each upgrade OR is searching for a dependency which is limited to
   the previous version!
 
  Could you remove both /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and /usr/ports/INDEX*.db and
  rerun portupgrade? They will be recreated automatically.

 OK done that I will report back when I have done a few  cvsups and
 portupgrade runs and see whether that fixes the problem. Thanks for keeping
 on to this.

 Lets hope this works

No such luck I am afraid we still have the same problem;;

===   Registering installation for poppler-0.8.7
===  Cleaning for poppler-0.8.7
---  Cleaning out obsolete shared libraries
[Updating the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 1047 packages 
found (-0 +1) . done]
---  Skipping 'graphics/poppler-qt' (poppler-qt-0.8.6) because a requisite 
package 'poppler-0.8.6' () failed (specify -k to force)
---  Skipping 'graphics/poppler-gtk' (poppler-gtk-0.8.6) because a requisite 
package 'poppler-0.8.6' () failed (specify -k to force)
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)


# /usr/ports]# pkg_info -o poppler*
Information for poppler-0.8.7:

Origin:
graphics/poppler

Information for poppler-data-0.2.0:

Origin:
graphics/poppler-data

Information for poppler-gtk-0.8.6:

Origin:
graphics/poppler-gtk

Information for poppler-qt-0.8.6:

Origin:
graphics/poppler-qt

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Looks like same problem

David


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Re: Portupgrade has serious problems

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
On Monday 08 September 2008 04:59:06 Sergey Matveychuk wrote:
 David Southwell wrote:
  ---  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2' (ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706)
  because a requisite package 'ruby18-gdk_pixbuf2-0.16.0.20080706' ()
  failed (specify -k to force)

 Empty brackets display a problem with a database. But for some reason it
 can't be detected by bdb engine.

  ---  Skipping 'devel/ruby-libglade2' (ruby18-libglade2-0.16.0.20080706)
  because a requisite package 'ruby18-gtk2-0.16.0.20080706'
  (x11-toolkits/ruby-gtk2) failed (specify -k to force)
 
  All these problems have identical symptoms and are fixed by rerunning
  portupgrade!!
  It looks as though portupgrade is failing to reexamine the database after
  each upgrade OR is searching for a dependency which is limited to the
  previous version!

 Could you remove both /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and /usr/ports/INDEX*.db and
 rerun portupgrade? They will be recreated automatically.

OK done that I will report back when I have done a few  cvsups and portupgrade 
runs and see whether that fixes the problem. Thanks for keeping on to this.

Lets hope this works

David
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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
 I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of our 
 mail system.

Also, one other point I forgot to make:

This **should not** have gone to freebsd-ports, as the issue has
absolutely nothing to do with ports.

This should have gone to freebsd-isp, freebsd-security, or possibly
freebsd-questions.

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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread David Southwell
On Monday 08 September 2008 06:07:26 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
  I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of
  our mail system.

 Also, one other point I forgot to make:

 This **should not** have gone to freebsd-ports, as the issue has
 absolutely nothing to do with ports.

 This should have gone to freebsd-isp, freebsd-security, or possibly
 freebsd-questions.

I am sure you are right.. I was just hoping there might have been a port which 
would do something like..

trap all outgoing mail from the server - irrespective of the mta pas it 
through a filer and dump it in a file until you have had a chance to inspect 
it. Bearing in mind mail can come from multiple sources such a port would 
have been useful.

Apologies for generating too much traffic

david
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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:59:54AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
 On Monday 08 September 2008 05:19:51 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
   I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a hijack of
   our mail system.
  
   I believe I have now fixed the main problem but I need a tool that will
   reliably, and independently of the mail logs check my network for all
   outgoing mails and hold them up until I am certain that there all
   loopholes have been closed.
  
   Can anyone please let me have some recomendations on the best way of
   going about this
 
  I'm not sure what exactly you want.  Someone compromising your system
  means they could've done *anything*, including running their own MTA,
  replacing libc to include an open proxy for spamming, or any other
  thing.  There's no way to detect that sort of thing aside from deep
  packet inspection to look for mail-like network traffic, which is
  predominantly the job of a router or network tap.  It's going to be
  impossible for you to 100% ensure the system is in a working state.
 
 What happened was compromising 2 windows systems and installing a trojan on 
 those two systems. They were used to send mail via the MTA's on the freebsd 
 server to the outside world and in particular permissions to send mail to 
 root on the freebsd server.
 
  There was no actual compromise of the freebsd server and the windows systems 
 had no ability to access the server. 

Okay, in that case you can disregard my comments about formatting the
FreeBSD machine.  Instead, format the Windows machine.  ;-)

  Keeping it simple, making the (horrible) assumption that they
  compromised something that affected your MTA: it depends completely an
  entirely on what MTA you're using (sendmail, postfix, etc.).  See the
  your MTA's manpages for looking at outbound/delivery mail queue.
 
 In addition to the above I am loking for an additional way of monitoring 
 smptd 
 25 outbound traffic at the network level, filter the traffic, and do an extra 
 checks to make sure there is nothing left when I reopen the service to the 
 local network.

You didn't disclose what MTA you're using on the FreeBSD box.

On postfix, you should use the 'mailq' command.  I believe sendmail also
uses 'mailq', but requires specific arguments to examine the outbound
queue.

Regarding monitoring TCP port 25 traffic: I'm not sure what you mean by
monitoring.  You should be able to tail logfiles, or use tcpdump to
monitor those packets: tcpdump -p -l -n tcp and port 25

Regarding blocking outbound SMTP traffic (traffic your MTA is sending to
mail servers on the Internet), you should be able to use pf to block
that.  These rules, in this order, in /etc/pf.conf should suffice and
should not affect existing IP traffic or lock you out (but I HIGHLY
recommend you apply these over serial or VGA console -- doing in-band
firewall changes is a very, VERY risky/bad idea):

pass in all no state
pass out all no state
block in quick on interface proto tcp from mailserverIP to any port 25

Replace 'interface' with the network interface used for this traffic,
and 'mailserverIP' with the IP of your mail server.

(For readers: the reason I'm telling him to use no state is that I
don't want to bother getting into a discussion about pf state tracking
and oh man suddenly my SSH connection died to the box or other things
which are expected but require explanation.)

Enable pf by using this in /etc/rc.conf:

pf_enable=yes

Then run /etc/rc.d/pf start.  I'm making the assumption you have pf in
your kernel, or that it will load as a kernel module successfully.  If
you get a warning about ALTQ (traffic flow/shaping) not working, you can
ignore it.

  By the way, and I apologise if I'm stepping over a line here, but fixed
  the main problem doesn't sound like you fixed anything.  You might have
  addressed the hole they used to get in on, but what makes you think
  they didn't replace binaries (including using touch -amcf to adjust
  a/m/ctimes) or do something even more sneaky?
 
 The main problem was the trojan and stuff that it brought in. Hefty use of 
 Kaspersky and about six other tools on the windows systems has  resolved the 
 issue. I have not been able to detect any attempts from the windows systems 
 to abuse the mail system but I want to monitor dynamically for some time.

I still wouldn't trust it, and it has nothing to do with it being
Windows.  Members of the FreeBSD security team would likely provide the
same advice (format the disk and reinstall the OS entirely).  This
concept applies universally.  You have even less visibility into the
inner workings of a Windows box than you do a *IX box; it's just the
nature of the beast.

Otherwise, congratulations, assuming this is your first encounter
dealing with hackers.  :-)

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Re: VirtualBox looks for FreeBSD developer

2008-09-08 Thread Klaus Espenlaub

[third attempt - the first two were blocked by the smart freebsd.org
mailserver, which rejected the mail because it couldn't get the name for
the sun mail server's IP address - which looks like a DNS
misconfiguration on freesbd.org. Not nice when trying to send such
messages as the following.]

#include disclaimer

Some user on the #vbox irc channel brought this topic to my attention.
So don't misinterpret my response here as declaring myself the best
possible contact - I'm not. I'm not on the freebsd-ports list either.

The issue with getting VirtualBox working on freebsd is mainly a
manpower problem. Sorry to say that, but it's the root of why there has
been no substantial progress from the Sun (and previously innotek).

freebsd is yet another kernel for which the VirtualBox devs would have
to figure out how to safely achieve a few things normal applications
don't ever need. Like dealing with physical memory, getting along with
the scheduler and stuff like that. It's also true that the written
documentation in VirtualBox about this area leaves something to be
desired - again a manpower problem.

So the only chance I personally see is for getting the freebsd port over
the initial big bump is that some kernel gurus from the freebsd
community help out. If someone capable and willing to look into this
contacts the VirtualBox team, he'll eventually find someone on #vbox-dev
who has time to explain - if time permits. We do our best to be
responsive, but bear with us that many things have higher priorities.

Remember, the team is located in Europe. There's the vbox-dev mailing
list if it's too hard to find a time where both parties are awake.

Sorry to babble so much, but I hope that this puts off the unwanted
audience - serious low-level stuff needs to be done before worrying
about compilation issues on particular freebsd versions. Once the
mentioned hurdle is taken, keeping it working will be much less work -
and the VirtualBox team probably will do most of it.

Klaus


On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 08:04:55AM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:48:45PM +0100, Olivier Cochard-Labbe wrote:
  I can't compile VirtualBox with your patch (I'm using a FreeBSD 

7.0Release).


 It works with 6.3, 7.0 has the ULE scheduler which doesn't have 

sched_lock.


 Rink@ has been trying to get it work on 7.0, but...
 rink Mavvie: haven't gotten it to link yet :-/

 It works on 6.3, until you try to start the VM:

 With VBOX_SUPLIB_FAKE=fake set you get:
 VM creation failed (GVMM).  VBox status code: -37 

(VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED).


 Without it (i.e. using the kernel module):
 Failed to load VMMR0.r0.  VBox status code: -609 

(VERR_SYMBOL_NOT_FOUND).


 And the documentation about the kernel module as described on
 http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Porting_VirtualBox are lacking a bit
 of essential information.

FYI: I've given up on it, despite the fact that it compiles and
runs on 6.3, I can't get around the problems with the kernel driver
and the lack of documentation.



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Re: Mail services checking - URGENT

2008-09-08 Thread Doug Hardie


On Sep 8, 2008, at 06:04, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:59:54AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:

On Monday 08 September 2008 05:19:51 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:10:27AM -0700, David Southwell wrote:
I have had a series of attacks on a system which resulted in a  
hijack of

our mail system.

I believe I have now fixed the main problem but I need a tool  
that will
reliably, and independently of the mail logs check my network for  
all

outgoing mails and hold them up until I am certain that there all
loopholes have been closed.

Can anyone please let me have some recomendations on the best way  
of

going about this




You might want to look at the clamav port.  If there are examples of  
the things you would be checking for, you can create your own  
signatures for those and clamav will do the monitoring for you.  You  
can configure it to quarantine messages which have the signature for  
manual review.  It won't find anything new, it just does a better job  
of finding things you have seen before.

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Making ports from source with weird download restrictions

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Franks
Hi,

There are two embedded software tools
I've been wanting to port for some time.  Both have inconsistent/funky
downloads, so I have no idea how to get them into a port.  Both are
very active projects, and used by pretty much all embedded ARM7/9
developers (embedded as in microwaves  thermostats not PDA's 
IPods).

1) lpc21isp - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc21isp/ - the
source for this project is only located in the files section of this
yahoo group, and I'm pretty sure you need a yahoo password to get it.
Also it's guarded by a bunch of antisocial types, if you know what I
mean.  I got flamed for suggesting a feature that would increase
flexibility.  I suspect the only choice here is to make sure the
license is open, and branch it to a new sourceforge project, correct?
Otherwise, there's really no way for someone to get the source in an
automated fashion.

2) openocd - http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Building_OpenOCD
- this is a bit more sensible - there's a stable SVN repository for
it, it's just that the only ports I've seen are on sourceforge, and
come from release .tgz archives, not a SVN archive (although I've
never gotten a broken version from the openocd SVN).  If someone
pointed me at a port that built from SVN instead of a .tgz, I'm sure I
could get the port done.

Best,
Steve
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Re: USE_GECKO=firefox and firefox3

2008-09-08 Thread Naram Qashat

Norberto Meijome wrote:

Hi all,
I have firefox3 installed. my make.conf shows USE_GECKO=firefox.

When I try to install any port (in particular today, the latest eclipse 3.3.2 )
which uses USE_GECKO, www/firefox is pulled into the dependencies, rather tha
firefox3.

I use portupgrade to launch the eclipse upgrade ( portupgrade -p eclipse ) ,
and my /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf contains the following relevant entries:


 ALT_PKGDEP = {
'www/mozilla' = 'www/firefox3',
'www/firefox' = 'www/firefox3',
'firefox-2*' = 'firefox-3*',
'firefox' = 'firefox3',
[...]
}



As far as I can tell, from having this problem with the VLC Firefox plugin after 
the FF3 release, you need to use WITH_GECKO=xulrunner instead of firefox or 
firefox3.  Of course, that will only work if the eclipse port has xulrunner in 
the list for USE_GECKO and isn't pulling in the old bsd.gecko.mk from the 
mozilla folder.


The reason for that is that after Firefox 2, the Mozilla team moved all the 
stuff for building into xulrunner, as Firefox 3 doesn't have a firefox3-config 
like Firefox 2 had firefox-config.  I don't use eclipse, so I can't comment if 
changing it so it uses xulrunner will work, but it's worth a shot.


Naram Qashat


still, no luck, ffox 2 gets pulled in.

should Mk/bsd.gecko.mk have support for firefox3 ? Is there any solution,other
than deinstalling ffox3, install ffox2, install eclipse, and then replace ffox2
with 3 ? 


 ( I *suspect* that portupgrade -o {ffox something} {ffox other} eclipse would
do , but not entirely sure how it works

Thanks for any help!!
B, now gmail powered.
_
{Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome

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Re: Making ports from source with weird download restrictions

2008-09-08 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 10:03:22AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There are two embedded software tools
 I've been wanting to port for some time.  Both have inconsistent/funky
 downloads, so I have no idea how to get them into a port.  Both are
 very active projects, and used by pretty much all embedded ARM7/9
 developers (embedded as in microwaves  thermostats not PDA's 
 IPods).
 
 1) lpc21isp - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc21isp/ - the
 source for this project is only located in the files section of this
 yahoo group, and I'm pretty sure you need a yahoo password to get it.
 Also it's guarded by a bunch of antisocial types, if you know what I
 mean.  I got flamed for suggesting a feature that would increase
 flexibility.  I suspect the only choice here is to make sure the
 license is open, and branch it to a new sourceforge project, correct?
 Otherwise, there's really no way for someone to get the source in an
 automated fashion.

As long as the license allows redistribution, we can host it on FreeBSD
infrastructure using MASTER_SITE_LOCAL.

 2) openocd - http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Building_OpenOCD
 - this is a bit more sensible - there's a stable SVN repository for
 it, it's just that the only ports I've seen are on sourceforge, and
 come from release .tgz archives, not a SVN archive (although I've
 never gotten a broken version from the openocd SVN).  If someone
 pointed me at a port that built from SVN instead of a .tgz, I'm sure I
 could get the port done.

Doing an svn export in the fetch stage is possible, but probably not
ideal.  In my devel/llvm-devel port I have a do-fetch target that
fetches a snapshot and makes a tarball out of it, but I only use that
for my own use and host a snapshot on the FreeBSD ftp servers for normal
users since a tarball allows users to do a make clean and retry without
having to fetch files again.

-- Brooks


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Re: HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 6.4 and 7.0 in effect

2008-09-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:01:25 +0200, Erwin Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In preparation for both the 6.4 and 7.1 releases, the ports tree has
 been frozen.  All commits have to be approved by portmgr.  See the
 portmgr webpage[1] for more information about what is and isn't
 allowed during the freeze.  We are aiming for a short freeze period,
 so we will be quite strict in allowing commits during the freeze.  Of
 course, we do appreciate any help fixing existing errors in the tree,
 so if anyone is bored, a good starting point will be portsmon[2].

Damn :/

My emacs-22.3 release update almost made it into ports before the freeze
by 1-2 days.  Is there any chance I could bribe you guys to get it in,
so we can have the latest stable 22.X GNU Emacs in the release?

Having said that, I am a bit unfamiliar with all the work port builders
have to do during the freeze, so if getting a new Emacs in the tree is
completely out of the question because it would create a lot of work for
you guys, that's ok.

On the other hand, if the ports stay frozen for several weeks and we
still have time to let it settle into the tree, it would be very nice to
include this version.  It includes a mildly important fix in the way
Emacs spawns Python processes[1] that would be _very_ nice to have in
ports sooner, rather than a couple of months later.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-09/msg00215.html



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Re: VirtualBox looks for FreeBSD developer

2008-09-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Klaus Espenlaub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 #include disclaimer

I speak for myself and nobody else. I do not claim that I in any way
represent FreeBSD.

 freebsd is yet another kernel for which the VirtualBox devs would have
 to figure out how to safely achieve a few things normal applications
 don't ever need. Like dealing with physical memory, getting along with
 the scheduler and stuff like that. It's also true that the written
 documentation in VirtualBox about this area leaves something to be
 desired - again a manpower problem.

It is easy for me as an outsider to see that this can be viewed from
the opposite angle:

VirtualBox is just another virtualization solution for FreeBSD. We
are sorry that the VirtualBox team can't find any time to provide the
necessary documentation. Currently FreeBSD don't have any developers
with enough free time to figure things out from the documentation
available now. You see - it is simply a manpower problem.

I do hope I'm wrong, and that some FreeBSD developer will work on this.
-- 
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen,
Norway
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Re: ports patch for comm/rxtx

2008-09-08 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Zach Metzinger píše v po 08. 09. 2008 v 14:33 -0500:

 The configure and configure.in files for comm/rxtx are broken when using
 java/jdk16. Two patches, below, fix this problem. The actual credit for
 figuring this out belongs to netbeans at gatworks.com. I just created 
 patches to fix the issue.
 
 Unpatched, the port does not indicate an error, but the installation fails
 (no files installed). If installed by hand at this point, programs using 
 rxtx fail due to:
 
 java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
 gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver.nativeGetVersion()Ljava/lang/String; thrown while 
 loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver

This looks useful. Let me test and commit it.


 --- Zach
 
 *** configure+  Mon Sep  8 14:22:44 2008
 --- configure   Mon Sep  8 14:23:16 2008
 ***
 *** 21611,21617 
 TARGETLIB=\$(target_triplet)/librxtxSerial.la \
 \$(target_triplet)/librxtxParallel.la
 case $JAVA_VERSION in
 !   1.2*|1.3*|1.4*|1.5*)
 #fix_parameters $JPATH/jre/lib/javax.comm.properties
 CLASSPATH=.:\$(TOP):\$(TOP)/src:`find $JPATH/ -name 
 RXTXcomm.jar |head -n1`
 RXTX_PATH=\$(JPATH)/jre/lib/\$(OS_ARCH)
 --- 21611,21617 
 TARGETLIB=\$(target_triplet)/librxtxSerial.la \
 \$(target_triplet)/librxtxParallel.la
 case $JAVA_VERSION in
 !   1.2*|1.3*|1.4*|1.5*|1.6*)
 #fix_parameters $JPATH/jre/lib/javax.comm.properties
 CLASSPATH=.:\$(TOP):\$(TOP)/src:`find $JPATH/ -name 
 RXTXcomm.jar |head -n1`
 RXTX_PATH=\$(JPATH)/jre/lib/\$(OS_ARCH)
 
 *** configure.in+   Mon Sep  8 14:22:51 2008
 --- configure.inMon Sep  8 14:23:25 2008
 ***
 *** 533,539 
 TARGETLIB=\$(target_triplet)/librxtxSerial.la \
 \$(target_triplet)/librxtxParallel.la
 case $JAVA_VERSION in
 !   1.2*|1.3*|1.4*|1.5*) 
 #fix_parameters $JPATH/jre/lib/javax.comm.properties
 CLASSPATH=.:\$(TOP):\$(TOP)/src:`find $JPATH/ -name 
 RXTXcomm.jar |head -n1`
 RXTX_PATH=\$(JPATH)/jre/lib/\$(OS_ARCH)
 --- 533,539 
 TARGETLIB=\$(target_triplet)/librxtxSerial.la \
 \$(target_triplet)/librxtxParallel.la
 case $JAVA_VERSION in
 !   1.2*|1.3*|1.4*|1.5*|1.6*) 
 #fix_parameters $JPATH/jre/lib/javax.comm.properties
 CLASSPATH=.:\$(TOP):\$(TOP)/src:`find $JPATH/ -name 
 RXTXcomm.jar |head -n1`
 RXTX_PATH=\$(JPATH)/jre/lib/\$(OS_ARCH)
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Re: HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 6.4 and 7.0 in effect

2008-09-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:01:25 +0200, Erwin Lansing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In preparation for both the 6.4 and 7.1 releases, the ports tree has
 been frozen.  All commits have to be approved by portmgr.  See the
 portmgr webpage[1] for more information about what is and isn't
 allowed during the freeze.  We are aiming for a short freeze period,
 so we will be quite strict in allowing commits during the freeze.  Of
 course, we do appreciate any help fixing existing errors in the tree,
 so if anyone is bored, a good starting point will be portsmon[2].

 Damn :/

 My emacs-22.3 release update almost made it into ports before the freeze
 by 1-2 days.  Is there any chance I could bribe you guys to get it in,
 so we can have the latest stable 22.X GNU Emacs in the release?

 Having said that, I am a bit unfamiliar with all the work port builders
 have to do during the freeze, so if getting a new Emacs in the tree is
 completely out of the question because it would create a lot of work for
 you guys, that's ok.

 On the other hand, if the ports stay frozen for several weeks and we
 still have time to let it settle into the tree, it would be very nice to
 include this version.  It includes a mildly important fix in the way
 Emacs spawns Python processes[1] that would be _very_ nice to have in
 ports sooner, rather than a couple of months later.

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-09/msg00215.html

Since it is a security issue it may be resolved before release.
Just the patch should be polished a little.


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Re: ports patch for comm/rxtx

2008-09-08 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Pav Lucistnik píše v po 08. 09. 2008 v 22:13 +0200:
 Zach Metzinger píše v po 08. 09. 2008 v 14:33 -0500:
 
  The configure and configure.in files for comm/rxtx are broken when using
  java/jdk16. Two patches, below, fix this problem. The actual credit for
  figuring this out belongs to netbeans at gatworks.com. I just created 
  patches to fix the issue.
  
  Unpatched, the port does not indicate an error, but the installation fails
  (no files installed). If installed by hand at this point, programs using 
  rxtx fail due to:
  
  java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
  gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver.nativeGetVersion()Ljava/lang/String; thrown while 
  loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriver
 
 This looks useful. Let me test and commit it.

Committed, thanks!

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Re: HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 6.4 and 7.0 in effect

2008-09-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:51:32 +0400, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 My emacs-22.3 release update almost made it into ports before the freeze
 by 1-2 days.  Is there any chance I could bribe you guys to get it in,
 so we can have the latest stable 22.X GNU Emacs in the release?

 Since it is a security issue it may be resolved before release.  Just
 the patch should be polished a little.

Thanks Boris :)

Yeah, the patch as it is attached in the port now lacks at least the
`bsd.emacs.mk' changes, which I attached to this message.  I've
resubmitted the patch to ports/127168 in the version I emailed to Erwin
earlier.

I don't know how busy you are these days, and I wouldn't want to put too
much pressure on your schedule, but if you can email me about the
changes to polish the patch, I'll do it resubmit the patch to the PR,
and get it committed later today.

%%%
Index: Mk/bsd.emacs.mk
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/Mk/bsd.emacs.mk,v
retrieving revision 1.73
diff -u -r1.73 bsd.emacs.mk
--- Mk/bsd.emacs.mk 3 Jun 2008 14:36:49 -   1.73
+++ Mk/bsd.emacs.mk 8 Sep 2008 19:46:40 -
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@
 # Emacs-22.x
 .elif (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == emacs22)
 EMACS_NAME=emacs
-EMACS_VER= 22.2
+EMACS_VER= 22.3
 EMACS_MAJOR_VER=   22
 EMACS_LIBDIR?= share/${EMACS_NAME}
 EMACS_LIBDIR_WITH_VER?=share/${EMACS_NAME}/${EMACS_VER}
Index: editors/emacs/Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/editors/emacs/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -u -r1.79 Makefile
--- editors/emacs/Makefile  21 Aug 2008 06:16:55 -  1.79
+++ editors/emacs/Makefile  8 Sep 2008 19:46:05 -
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
xemacs-[0-9]* xemacs-devel-[0-9]* \
xemacs-mule-[0-9]* xemacs-devel-mule-[0-9]*
 
-EMACS_VER= 22.2
+EMACS_VER= 22.3
 GNU_CONFIGURE= yes
 USE_GMAKE= yes
 
Index: editors/emacs/distinfo
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/editors/emacs/distinfo,v
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -r1.13 distinfo
--- editors/emacs/distinfo  3 Jun 2008 14:36:49 -   1.13
+++ editors/emacs/distinfo  8 Sep 2008 19:46:05 -
@@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
-MD5 (emacs-22.2.tar.gz) = d6ee586b8752351334ebf072904c4d51
-SHA256 (emacs-22.2.tar.gz) = 
216839e1fb38ca4f2ed0a07689fb47ee80d90845f34e0a56fe781d6aa462e367
-SIZE (emacs-22.2.tar.gz) = 38694318
+MD5 (emacs-22.3.tar.gz) = aa8ba34f548cd78b35914ae5a7bb87eb
+SHA256 (emacs-22.3.tar.gz) = 
7bd9b719db8ee20c75ee0d256737f7fd2c0e2ea30a285a3afbfc32c856420d16
+SIZE (emacs-22.3.tar.gz) = 39587396
Index: editors/emacs/pkg-plist
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/editors/emacs/pkg-plist,v
retrieving revision 1.27
diff -u -r1.27 pkg-plist
--- editors/emacs/pkg-plist 3 Jun 2008 14:36:49 -   1.27
+++ editors/emacs/pkg-plist 8 Sep 2008 19:46:05 -
@@ -2381,10 +2381,10 @@
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/artist.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bib-mode.el.gz
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bib-mode.elc
-%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el.gz
-%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex-style.el.gz
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex-style.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/bibtex.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/conf-mode.el.gz
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/conf-mode.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/css-mode.el.gz
@@ -2403,6 +2403,16 @@
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/makeinfo.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/nroff-mode.el.gz
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/nroff-mode.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-export-latex.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-export-latex.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-irc.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-irc.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-mac-message.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-mac-message.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-mouse.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-mouse.elc
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-publish.el.gz
+%%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org-publish.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org.el.gz
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/org.elc
 %%DATADIR%%/%%EMACS_VER%%/lisp/textmodes/page-ext.el.gz
@@ -2620,9 +2630,10 @@
 %%DATADIR%%/site-lisp/subdirs.el
 var/games/emacs/snake-scores
 var/games/emacs/tetris-scores
[EMAIL PROTECTED] libexec/emacs/%%EMACS_VER%%/%%EMACS_ARCH%%
[EMAIL PROTECTED] libexec/emacs/%%EMACS_VER%%
[EMAIL 

Re: HEADS UP: Ports freeze for 6.4 and 7.0 in effect

2008-09-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:51:32 +0400, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My emacs-22.3 release update almost made it into ports before the freeze
 by 1-2 days.  Is there any chance I could bribe you guys to get it in,
 so we can have the latest stable 22.X GNU Emacs in the release?

 Since it is a security issue it may be resolved before release.  Just
 the patch should be polished a little.

 Thanks Boris :)

My pleasure. BTW since you released the PR I've taken it.

 Yeah, the patch as it is attached in the port now lacks at least the
 `bsd.emacs.mk' changes, which I attached to this message.  I've

Usually I don't like such changes (to *.mk stuff) just before
freeze/release... But since you are the maintainer I'm not scared.

 resubmitted the patch to ports/127168 in the version I emailed to Erwin
 earlier.

 I don't know how busy you are these days, and I wouldn't want to put too

I whish I had more spare time. :-(

 much pressure on your schedule, but if you can email me about the
 changes to polish the patch,

I've just was going to do it and have received your email.

First of all, I'd like to ask you to send me (may be without CC to
ports@) a proposed commit log. And since it is a security issue it
will be good to add an entry to ports/security/vuxml/vuln.xml.

 I'll do it resubmit the patch to the PR,
 and get it committed later today.

 %%%
 Index: Mk/bsd.emacs.mk
 ===
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/Mk/bsd.emacs.mk,v
 retrieving revision 1.73
 diff -u -r1.73 bsd.emacs.mk
 --- Mk/bsd.emacs.mk   3 Jun 2008 14:36:49 -   1.73
 +++ Mk/bsd.emacs.mk   8 Sep 2008 19:46:40 -
 @@ -83,7 +83,7 @@
  # Emacs-22.x
  .elif (${EMACS_PORT_NAME} == emacs22)
  EMACS_NAME=  emacs
 -EMACS_VER=   22.2
 +EMACS_VER=   22.3

As you may see at my email headers I'm already using the new emacs
version. But it states itself (at the window name) that it is 22.3.1.
I'm not sure why. I was always curious why those versions don't
correspond to the ports versions (i.e. PORTVERSION).

[...]

I'm not sure why the following patch is needed:

 Index: editors/emacs/files/patch-man-Makefile.in
 ===
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/editors/emacs/files/patch-man-Makefile.in,v
 retrieving revision 1.1
 diff -u -r1.1 patch-man-Makefile.in
 --- editors/emacs/files/patch-man-Makefile.in 16 Jul 2007 17:06:44 -  
 1.1
 +++ editors/emacs/files/patch-man-Makefile.in 8 Sep 2008 19:46:05 -
 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
  ./man/Makefile.in.orig   Sat May  6 18:54:21 2006
 -+++ ./man/Makefile.inFri Sep  1 21:10:08 2006
 +--- man/Makefile.in.orig 2008-09-07 05:25:12.0 +0300
  man/Makefile.in  2008-09-07 05:25:12.0 +0300
  @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@
   
   # The makeinfo program is part of the Texinfo distribution.

And those two patches seems to only rename an existing file
if I'm not mistaken. With all my respect to you as a mantainer
I'd say that you should have a good reason for that and if so
it worth mentionning at the commit's log. As for me I won't
do any renames while at ports freeze. But sure it's up to you. ;-)

 Index: editors/emacs/files/patch-src-alloc.c
 ===
 RCS file: editors/emacs/files/patch-src-alloc.c
 diff -N editors/emacs/files/patch-src-alloc.c
 --- /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -
 +++ editors/emacs/files/patch-src-alloc.c 8 Sep 2008 19:46:05 -
 @@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
 +--- src/alloc.c.orig 2008-09-07 05:25:27.0 +0300
  src/alloc.c  2008-09-07 05:25:27.0 +0300
 +@@ -4573,8 +4573,12 @@
 +  needed on ia64 too.  See mach_dep.c, where it also says inline
 +  assembler doesn't work with relevant proprietary compilers.  */
 + #ifdef __sparc__
 ++#ifdef __sparc64__
 ++  asm (flushw);
 ++#else
 +   asm (ta 3);
 + #endif
 ++#endif
 + 
 +   /* Save registers that we need to see on the stack.  We need to see
 +  registers used to hold register variables and registers used to
 Index: editors/emacs/files/patch-src__alloc.c
 ===
 RCS file: editors/emacs/files/patch-src__alloc.c
 diff -N editors/emacs/files/patch-src__alloc.c
 --- editors/emacs/files/patch-src__alloc.c16 Jul 2007 17:06:44 -  
 1.1
 +++ /dev/null 1 Jan 1970 00:00:00 -
 @@ -1,14 +0,0 @@
  ./src/alloc.c.orig   Thu Aug 31 20:50:29 2006
 -+++ ./src/alloc.cFri Sep  1 21:10:08 2006
 -@@ -4560,7 +4560,11 @@
 -  needed on ia64 too.  See mach_dep.c, where it also says inline
 -  assembler doesn't work with relevant proprietary compilers.  */
 - #ifdef sparc
 -+#ifdef __sparc64__
 -+  asm (flushw);
 -+#else
 -   asm (ta 3);
 -+#endif
 - #endif
 - 
 -   /* Save registers that we need to see on the stack.  We need 

devel/libtool15 unconditionally hardcodes autodetected textproc/gsed

2008-09-08 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
Hello all!

While the ports are in freeze just want to point to the problem I have
encountered. Not sure if this is a critical bug, just a bug or not
a bug at all (so, no PR yet).

If one installs/rebuilds devel/libtool15 while textproc/gsed is
installed, libtool autodetects it and hardcodes gsed in itself.
If later one removes gsed (and nothing prevents him from doing this),
libtool is left in a broken state. FWIW, textproc/gsed is a BUILD_DEPENDS
of some ports.

Ideally, I think, one should hack libtool's configure framework to
not detect gsed at all. Sorry, no patch here. Attached is the diff
between unpacked libtool packages, one built with system sed and
one - with gsed.

Alexey.
diff -ruN libtool-good/+CONTENTS libtool-bad/+CONTENTS
--- libtool-good/+CONTENTS  2008-09-08 10:29:34.0 +0200
+++ libtool-bad/+CONTENTS   2008-09-08 20:50:41.0 +0200
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 @cwd /usr/local
 @comment $FreeBSD: ports/devel/libtool15/pkg-plist,v 1.13 2006/02/23 10:36:03 
ade Exp $
 bin/libtool
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5:d82d18482a1bdb6a66b4a88e5f6af477
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5:553962c30b1587c8cd17cd90a252a8f2
 bin/libtoolize
 @comment MD5:efbc69981145a9fac91f0f875ba11c3e
 share/aclocal/libtool.m4
diff -ruN libtool-good/bin/libtool libtool-bad/bin/libtool
--- libtool-good/bin/libtool2008-09-08 10:29:29.0 +0200
+++ libtool-bad/bin/libtool 2008-09-08 20:50:36.0 +0200
@@ -30,10 +30,10 @@
 # the same distribution terms that you use for the rest of that program.
 
 # A sed program that does not truncate output.
-SED=/usr/bin/sed
+SED=/usr/local/bin/gsed
 
 # Sed that helps us avoid accidentally triggering echo(1) options like -n.
-Xsed=/usr/bin/sed -e 1s/^X//
+Xsed=/usr/local/bin/gsed -e 1s/^X//
 
 # The HP-UX ksh and POSIX shell print the target directory to stdout
 # if CDPATH is set.
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Re: Making ports from source with weird download restrictions

2008-09-08 Thread Kris Kennaway

Brooks Davis wrote:


As long as the license allows redistribution, we can host it on FreeBSD
infrastructure using MASTER_SITE_LOCAL.


2) openocd - http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Building_OpenOCD
- this is a bit more sensible - there's a stable SVN repository for
it, it's just that the only ports I've seen are on sourceforge, and
come from release .tgz archives, not a SVN archive (although I've
never gotten a broken version from the openocd SVN).  If someone
pointed me at a port that built from SVN instead of a .tgz, I'm sure I
could get the port done.


Doing an svn export in the fetch stage is possible, but probably not
ideal.  In my devel/llvm-devel port I have a do-fetch target that
fetches a snapshot and makes a tarball out of it, but I only use that
for my own use and host a snapshot on the FreeBSD ftp servers for normal
users since a tarball allows users to do a make clean and retry without
having to fetch files again.


Yes, this is the right way to do it.

Kris
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RE: qemu problem

2008-09-08 Thread Mark Picone
I am using qemu without any problems on a 7.0-p4 host, here are a few things I 
learnt a lot the way:

1. qemu (with kqemu kernel module loaded) will cause the problems you are 
having 
(extreme instability).
2. qemu-devel (with kqemu-devel kernel module loaded) will work fine until you 
start swapping memory, then it seems some sort of memory corruption will occur 
and 
crash the VM.

If you have plenty of RAM give the -devel versions a go, otherwise do not use 
kqemu as it seems to be unstable.

At the moment I am running a WindowsXP-SP3 VM with qemu-devel (albeit very 
slowly) 
without kqemu or stability problems.

Thanks,


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ganbold
 Sent: Sunday, 7 September 2008 3:54 PM
 To: Carlos A. M. dos Santos
 Cc: freebsd-ports
 Subject: Re: qemu problem

 Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
  On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Ganbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have problem installing FreeBSD-7.0 using qemu in RELENG_7.
  It starts installing FreeBSD, but it crashes and dumps core in different
  places.
 
 
  It would be important to know what different places means. It is
  *during* installation or *after*  it?
 
 

 Both. It happens when it tries to copy something, or when it tries to
 compile something.
 Yesterday it hanged and crashed when I tried to upgrade 7.0 to CURRENT
 (buildworld).

  Did somebody experience this before?
 
  devil# uname -an
  FreeBSD devil.micom.mng.net 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #9: Tue Aug 19
  18:35:02 ULAT 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEVIL
   i386
  devil#
 
  devil# qemu -boot d -hda freebsd.img -m 256 -cdrom
  ~tsgan/7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso -localtime -net nic -net tap smp 2
  qemu: fatal: triple fault
  EAX=c0bfe67c EBX=000c ECX=f001003f EDX=f001003f
  ESI=c0bfe67c EDI=c24f7c60 EBP=c0bfe670 ESP=c0bfe5e0
  EIP=c0a49004 EFL=0002 [---] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=0 HLT=0
  ES =0028   00cf9300
  CS =0020   00cf9b00
  SS =0028   00cf9300
  DS =0028   00cf9300
  FS =0008 ffc0  ffcf93c0
  GS =0028   00cf9300
  LDT=0050 c0bfef20 0087 c000e2bf
  TR =0060 c0bff1c0 0067 c00089bf
  GDT= c0bfe5a0 0097
  IDT= c0c00240 07ff
  CR0=e005003b CR2=f0010043 CR3=0141e000 CR4=0690
  CCS=c0bfe67c CCD=c0bfe6e8 CCO=ADDB   FCW=127f FSW=0020 [ST=0] FTW=00
  MXCSR=1f80
  FPR0=  FPR1= 
  FPR2=  FPR3= 
  FPR4=ccc4 3ffe FPR5=8000 3ffe
  FPR6=e670d1fa33376800 3ffe FPR7=8e670d1fa3337800 4002
  XMM00=
  XMM01=
  XMM02=
  XMM03=
  XMM04=
  XMM05=
  XMM06=
  XMM07=
  Abort (core dumped)
 
 
  QEMU treats triple faults generated by the guest OS as fatal errors,
  so it aborts execution and dumps core. In my opinion this is a too
  self-punishing behavior that chould be replaced by a less harmful VM
  restart. Triple faults are in fact fatal errors, so QEMU is correct,
  in theory. In practice, however, some operating systems generate
  triple faults on purpose in order to force a system reboot. The Linux
  kernel used to do this. It appears that the FreeBSD boot loader does
  it as well, so if you start FreeBSD and choose option 7 in the boot
  prompt you will ever crash QEMU.
 
 
  %pkg_info|grep qemu
  kqemu-kmod-1.3.0.p11_9 Kernel Accelerator for QEMU CPU Emulator
  qemu-0.9.1_9QEMU CPU Emulator
  %kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
  1   22 0xc040 701ae4   kernel
  21 0xc0b02000 5844 if_tap.ko
  31 0xc0b08000 15524snd_hda.ko
  42 0xc0b1e000 52a08sound.ko
  52 0xc0b71000 10ebcdrm.ko
  61 0xc0b82000 71c4 i915.ko
  71 0xc0b8a000 1ff24kqemu.ko
  81 0xc0baa000 b8c8 aio.ko
  91 0xc0bb6000 6b3d0acpi.ko
  101 0xc434 9000 if_bridge.ko
  111 0xc4349000 6000 bridgestp.ko
  122 0xc44ac000 d000 ipfw.ko
  131 0xc450 4000 ipdivert.ko
  141 0xc4526000 22000linux.ko
  151 0xc45a e000 fuse.ko
 
 
 

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opendx port

2008-09-08 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

I have been looking at the graphics/opendx port (ports is the maintainer).

If I select WITHOUT_JAVA, then in fact it builds and installs just fine 
on the amd64 architecture, despite that it is currently marked broken 
for amd64.


If I don't select WITHOUT_JAVA, it doesn't even install properly on my 
i386 machines.


The easiest way - at least as a band aid solution - to fix this port is 
to make WITHOUT_JAVA the default (presumably turn it into WITH_JAVA, or 
even delete this possibility altogether).


I plan to submit a PR in a while, but not until the ports freeze is 
over.  If anyone objects to my proposed solution, they have plenty of 
time to discuss it here.


Stephen
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