INDEX build failed for 6.x

2010-03-19 Thread Erwin Lansing
INDEX build failed with errors:
Generating INDEX-6 - please wait..pkg_info: not found
pkg_info: not found
 Done.
make_index: gscan2pdf-0.9.30: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/p5-Acme-Damn

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INDEX build failed for 6.x

2010-03-19 Thread Erwin Lansing
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pkg_info: not found
 Done.
make_index: gscan2pdf-0.9.30: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/p5-Acme-Damn

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gerald sylvio 

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Re: New portmgr secretary: Thomas Abthorpe

2010-03-19 Thread Felippe de Meirelles Motta

On 3/18/10 1:02 PM, Erwin Lansing wrote:

On behalf of portmgr, I am pleased to announce that portmgr has found
a new secretary: Thomas Abthorpe.  Thomas has been a FreeBSD ports committer
since 2007 and has made more than 1000 commits since.  He has previously
served on the ports-security team and is currently a member of the KDE
and donation teams. He has also mentored several new ports committers
over the years.

In his role as portmgr secretary, Thomas will help portmgr keep track of
ongoing issues, keeps the portmgr, and other bookkeeping work like
organizing votes and stay in touch with other FreeBSD teams.

Please welcome him onboard!

-erwin

   

My congrats Thomas, I'm sure that you'll do a great work.

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Re: New portmgr secretary: Thomas Abthorpe

2010-03-19 Thread Thomas Abthorpe
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> Congratulations, Thomas, for a well-deserved accolade! I appreciate your
> multi-faceted contributions to the project, especially mentoring so many
> new committers.
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> Best regards,
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Thanks, Greg :)

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Re: net/xorp - scattering file locations.

2010-03-19 Thread Bruce Simpson
P.S. there is a pkg-message for the legacy net/xorp package which 
explains why XORP needs PREFIX to be set to other than the default. If 
this is a problem for you consider net/xorp-devel

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Re: net/xorp - scattering file locations.

2010-03-19 Thread Bruce Simpson

On 03/20/10 01:19, jhell wrote:


The above mentioned port installs or otherwise scatters quite a few 
(10 or more) new directories into /usr/local/. Did I miss some 
configuration setting that I had to explicitly state in order for 
everything to just be installed in /usr/local/xorp or maybe in a more 
proper place.


XORP as of 1.7-WIP in SVN is now compliant with the Filesystem Hierarchy 
Standard.


Its directory is thus more in line with other packages for free 
UNIX-like operating systems.


I appreciate your feedback that this may have violated POLA for you, 
however, it's pretty much a prerequisite for getting it shipped in 
Ubuntu and other UNIX-like systems.


If you have any further queries please direct them to the xorp-users and 
xorp-hackers mailing lists.


Thank you for your interest in XORP.

regards,
BMS
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Re: [Call for Testing] X.org 7.5 for FreeBSD

2010-03-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Kevin Oberman  wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:15:05 +0100
>> From: Torfinn Ingolfsen 
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-...@freebsd.org
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Gary Jennejohn
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > First a question: why does 'make deinstall' give this output:
>>  ===>   Deinstalling dbus-1.2.16_1
>> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
>> '/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/dbus'
>> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
>> '/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0'
>> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
>> '/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d'
>> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/dbus-1'
>> pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
>> incorrectly specified?)
>>
>> And what are these files:
>> r...@kg-v7# ls /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/s*
>> ConsoleKit.conf                org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.conf
>> org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf.dist
>> hal.conf                org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf
>> org.gnome.GConf.Defaults.conf
>
> For most ports, de-installation does not remove configuration files so
> that an upgrade does not require re-configuration. If configuration
> files exist, the removal of the directories created by the installation
> will fail. This is normal, but the message is disturbing.

Those file operations should really be @exec and @unexec though, right?
-Garrett
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Re: net/xorp - scattering file locations.

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester

On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 18:19:53 PDT jhell wrote:


The above mentioned port installs or otherwise scatters quite a few 
(10 or more) new directories into /usr/local/. Did I miss some 
configuration setting that I had to explicitly state in order for 
everything to just be installed in /usr/local/xorp or maybe in a more

proper place.


Looking at the pkg-plist for the port, this is the normal, expected
installation.  I don't see many lines controlled by a PLIST_SUB, so I
don't think this can be changed by setting some options.
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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread jhell


On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:04, lambert@ wrote:

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:05:31AM -0500, Programmer In Training wrote:

Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do
recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with
FF 3.6 would be available.

I ask because I am the one who started this thread.

I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing
and bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions
because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still
some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to)
and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year
hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).


I'm not deeply involved in the FreeBSD project.  I just use it and make
my donations to the FreeBSD Foundation.  I try to make good bug reports
when I find issues.  I read the mailing lists.  That's about the extent
of my involvement.

The trouble with offers of "cycles and space" is everyone offers that.
Why not, it doesn't cost them anything?  Except for the ports cluster, I
don't think the project is short on "cycles and space".  Unfortunately,
the ports cluster appears to require dedicated hardware, not just spare
cycles such as the distributed.net type projects could use.

What the project appears to be short on is programmers willing to do the
work.  There seem to be several programmers who would like to work on
FreeBSD stuff more regularly.  The more specific resource which may be
missing is programmers with sufficient money to pay their bills, feed
their families, and who still have time to work on FreeBSD.

If you want a particular something accomplished, and do not have the
coding skills to do it yourself, you might try offering to fund a
programmer to scratch your itch.  If you can't afford sufficient funds
to get a programmer's attention, you might setup a bounty through
with multiple people can contribute toward scratching their common
itch.  Your time spent coordinating the bounty efforts would be a quite
valuable contribution to the project.

I think many people are simply worn out from politely refusing the
offers of "cycles and space" and may be a bit testy in general.  Just
remember, e-mail can usually be read as having a much harsher tone than
the author intended.  That is as true for messages sent by you as for
messages sent in reply to your message.  I'm as guilty as the next guy
of inferring a harsh tone from an e-mail.  Also, it seems like everyone,
including those in meat space near me, have been a bit extra touchy
lately.  It might help if everyone could just make allowances for the
possibility that the other guy is just having a bad day.  Don't take
mailing lists so seriously.

So, everyone, step away from the computer.  Look at how nicely spring
is shaping up.  Get some sunlight.  Take a deep breath, smile, and try
again.  Here in Arkansas, we have a lot of daffodils up.  The fruit
trees are flowering.  The grass is greening up.




Damn!, Out of this whole thread I believe this is the best message I have 
ready out of any of them. ;)




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Re: [freebsd-ports] i just installed port bash why is it not in my path

2010-03-19 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov  wrote:
> 20.03.2010 02:08, Mike Winter пишет:
>>
>> i see /usr/local/bin/bash is present and /usr/local/bin is in $PATH for
>> root, but without rebooting I cant use it unless I full-path it. So whats
>> the quick cmd to get the hash thing flushed so I dont have to reboot to use
>> the basename for the binary?
>>
>> Is this a thing is hashed to xxx thing?
>>
>> - Mike___
>
> rehash (in tcsh)

Or hash -r in bash(1)/sh(1) [bash only: assuming set -h is in
effect, which is the default].
HTH,
-Garrett
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net/xorp - scattering file locations.

2010-03-19 Thread jhell


The above mentioned port installs or otherwise scatters quite a few (10 or 
more) new directories into /usr/local/. Did I miss some configuration 
setting that I had to explicitly state in order for everything to just be 
installed in /usr/local/xorp or maybe in a more proper place.


Regards,

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sysutils/pftop - parent terminal lost & CPU usage.

2010-03-19 Thread jhell


Hi Max, Ports,

I have a problem with the subject mentioned port that when its parent 
terminal has been lost that it does not exit and remains present causing 
99% CPU usage until killed.


Repeatable:
1. Open a xterm(1)
2. su(1) to root typically "su -"
3. Start pftop
4. Kill your terminal in what ever way.

pftop remains present after this causing unneeded CPU cycles.


I will take a look into this when I get some time but I wanted to give you 
a heads up as to I am pretty busy lately with some other projects.


Thanks & Regards,

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INDEX build failed for 6.x

2010-03-19 Thread Erwin Lansing
INDEX build failed with errors:
Generating INDEX-6 - please wait..pkg_info: not found
pkg_info: not found
 Done.
make_index: gscan2pdf-0.9.30: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/p5-Acme-Damn

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sylvio 

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U devel/p5-SVN-S4/Makefile
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U devel/php-libawl/Makefile
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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/19/10 03:22, Jerry wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:27:12 -0700
> Doug Barton  articulated:
> 
>> People who provide suggestions on how things _should_ be without being
>> able to help make them that way shouldn't be surprised when they get a
>> possibly negative response. Both parties would be better served by
>> ignoring such comments altogether.
> 
> So, what you are inferring

The speaker implies, the hearer infers. However, I was not implying
anything. My (carefully worded) statement speaks for itself.

Others have elaborated on this point already, I won't attempt to improve
upon the already excellent responses.


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Re: [freebsd-ports] i just installed port bash why is it not in my path

2010-03-19 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov

20.03.2010 02:08, Mike Winter пишет:


i see /usr/local/bin/bash is present and /usr/local/bin is in $PATH for root, 
but without rebooting I cant use it unless I full-path it. So whats the quick 
cmd to get the hash thing flushed so I dont have to reboot to use the basename 
for the binary?

Is this a thing is hashed to xxx thing?

- Mike___


rehash (in tcsh)


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Re: [freebsd-ports] i just installed port bash why is it not in my path

2010-03-19 Thread Mike Winter
unhash  (duh!)
found via man which->man builtin
On Mar 19, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Mike Winter wrote:

> 
> i see /usr/local/bin/bash is present and /usr/local/bin is in $PATH for root, 
> but without rebooting I cant use it unless I full-path it. So whats the quick 
> cmd to get the hash thing flushed so I dont have to reboot to use the 
> basename for the binary?
> 
> Is this a thing is hashed to xxx thing?
> 
> - Mike

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[freebsd-ports] i just installed port bash why is it not in my path

2010-03-19 Thread Mike Winter

i see /usr/local/bin/bash is present and /usr/local/bin is in $PATH for root, 
but without rebooting I cant use it unless I full-path it. So whats the quick 
cmd to get the hash thing flushed so I dont have to reboot to use the basename 
for the binary?

Is this a thing is hashed to xxx thing?

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester

On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 10:24:51 PDT Programmer In Training wrote:

On 03/19/10 11:48, Jerry wrote:


Is there any reason that you don't simply install 'bash'? I use it as
my shell and love it.


It came on very strong recommendation from one of my geek friends as an
alternative to bash (which he termed as a "joke"). I've managed to make
some basic cosmetic customizations to it that make it /look/ like bash,
so I'm happy with that. Just have to get use to not having tab-complete
suggestions (or find a way to enable that, too).


There are things in bash that I find quite useful (enhanced variable
substitution and shell functions are two that I use most often) and I
refuse to forego them just because some geek thinks bash is a 'joke'.

Both shells have their pro's and con's. Rather than commit exclusively
to either one, a wiser course is to use the one that's best suited to
the task at hand. Sometimes that's tcsh, sometimes it's bash.  


In other words, make it an engineering decision, not a social or a
political one. 
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Re: [Call for Testing] X.org 7.5 for FreeBSD

2010-03-19 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:15:05 +0100
> From: Torfinn Ingolfsen 
> Sender: owner-freebsd-...@freebsd.org
> 
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Gary Jennejohn
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > First a question: why does 'make deinstall' give this output:
>  ===>   Deinstalling dbus-1.2.16_1
> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> '/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/dbus'
> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> '/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0'
> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
> '/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d'
> pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/dbus-1'
> pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
> incorrectly specified?)
> 
> And what are these files:
> r...@kg-v7# ls /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/s*
> ConsoleKit.conforg.freedesktop.PolicyKit.conf
> org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf.dist
> hal.conforg.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf
> org.gnome.GConf.Defaults.conf

For most ports, de-installation does not remove configuration files so
that an upgrade does not require re-configuration. If configuration
files exist, the removal of the directories created by the installation
will fail. This is normal, but the message is disturbing.
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[RESOLVED] Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/19/10 12:25, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Programmer In Training <
> p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and
>> bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions because
>>
> 
> 
> Well, it is nice of you to offer this.

It's all I have to offer.

> However, keep in mind that there aren't enough human resources (programmers,
> bug fixers, documenters, etc) in the FreeBSD Project.
> Until that issue is fixed, your offer will not help.

All I needed to hear. There is no time frame because there aren't enough
programmers. Thank you. (: I consider this issue resolved.

> So, to everyone wanting to help the FreeBSD Project; learn how to code, fix
> bugs, document, etc. (not necessarily in that order). That way you will make
> a difference.
> To all others; wishing will only get you so far.
> This is the real world: deal with it.

Working on those, slowly but surely. First step is to actually get back
into using my Learning Perl book to learn perl. (:

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/19/10 12:04, Scott Lambert wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:05:31AM -0500, Programmer In Training wrote:
>> Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do
>> recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with
>> FF 3.6 would be available.
>>
>> I ask because I am the one who started this thread.
>>
>> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing
>> and bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions
>> because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still
>> some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to)
>> and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year
>> hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).
> 
> I'm not deeply involved in the FreeBSD project.  I just use it and make
> my donations to the FreeBSD Foundation.  I try to make good bug reports
> when I find issues.  I read the mailing lists.  That's about the extent
> of my involvement.
> 
> The trouble with offers of "cycles and space" is everyone offers that.
> Why not, it doesn't cost them anything?  Except for the ports cluster, I
> don't think the project is short on "cycles and space".  Unfortunately,
> the ports cluster appears to require dedicated hardware, not just spare
> cycles such as the distributed.net type projects could use.


Now that's a good answer. Unfortunately I have no money (been out of
work for nearly a year and living with relatives at the moment), nor
programming skills that would be helpful. I can read and even understand
the basics of Perl and shell scripts. I've even read the handbook and
know more about what goes into contributing a port than I did before
(and will know even more once I read it in depth).

I know that cycles isn't really a good offer on a project like this, but
I do a lot of things on my computer (local web developing for starters)
that can take up a lot of cycles. Having to shut down anything just to
go and test and use a particular program and then bug report is a
significant investment in my time and CPU. It really is the best offer I
have to make. If my bro-in-law (current router admin where I'm staying)
wasn't such a Nazi about forwarding external port 22 requests to my box,
I'd offer even more.

Hence my very polite (pointedly so just so as to make sure no one would
get testy) request about a time frame for the latest (or at least
whatever will work with FF3.6) Java.

> So, everyone, step away from the computer.  Look at how nicely spring
> is shaping up.  Get some sunlight.  Take a deep breath, smile, and try
> again.  Here in Arkansas, we have a lot of daffodils up.  The fruit
> trees are flowering.  The grass is greening up.
> 

Sunlight is evil. I must have my energy drink and dark, cool, server
closet. j/k ;)

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Programmer In Training <
p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> wrote:

>
> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and
> bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions because
>


Well, it is nice of you to offer this.
However, keep in mind that there aren't enough human resources (programmers,
bug fixers, documenters, etc) in the FreeBSD Project.
Until that issue is fixed, your offer will not help.

So, to everyone wanting to help the FreeBSD Project; learn how to code, fix
bugs, document, etc. (not necessarily in that order). That way you will make
a difference.
To all others; wishing will only get you so far.
This is the real world: deal with it.
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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/19/10 11:48, Jerry wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:05:31 -0500
> Programmer In Training  articulated:

>> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and
>> bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions
>> because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still
>> some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to)
>> and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year
>> hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).
> 
> Is there any reason that you don't simply install 'bash'? I use it as
> my shell and love it.

It came on very strong recommendation from one of my geek friends as an
alternative to bash (which he termed as a "joke"). I've managed to make
some basic cosmetic customizations to it that make it /look/ like bash,
so I'm happy with that. Just have to get use to not having tab-complete
suggestions (or find a way to enable that, too).

>> If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to
>> be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will
>> leave. It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at
>> least making an effort to not be a n00b.
> 
> Don't take it personal. Whether or not you are praised or ridiculed

It's hard not to when someone either a) misunderstands because didn't
actually read the OP but claims to be remembering from it (perhaps there
is another OP that I'm not aware of that he's referring to?) or b)
willfully misunderstands just to be a troll. I didn't ask to get a
flamewar started. I asked because while Java (right now) isn't a
requirement for me to use, FF3.6 (with all the latest security patches),
is. As a part-time web developer, I need to have these tools available
to me (and again, I am willing to help make that a reality).

> depends entirely on where you are seated. Saying Microsoft sucks
> because they don't have {Applet of your choice} and you will be
> praised. Complain that your OS of choice lacks a feature that is
> readily available on other OS's and you will be chastised. It just goes
> with the territory. At times it can get really hilarious.


That stopped being hilarious after my first six months on slashdot (many
moons ago (I signed up circa 2003)).
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Re: [Call for Testing] X.org 7.5 for FreeBSD

2010-03-19 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Gary Jennejohn
wrote:

>
> First a question: why does 'make deinstall' give this output:
 ===>   Deinstalling dbus-1.2.16_1
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/dbus'
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0'
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory
'/usr/local/etc/dbus-1/system.d'
pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/etc/dbus-1'
pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is
incorrectly specified?)

And what are these files:
r...@kg-v7# ls /usr/local/etc/dbus-1/s*
ConsoleKit.conforg.freedesktop.PolicyKit.conf
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf.dist
hal.conforg.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.conf
org.gnome.GConf.Defaults.conf


> It is possible to turn off all checking by defining DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS
> in config.h _before_ compiling dbus, but that may be a bad idea.
>
> Anyway, there's alreay /* #undef DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS */ in config.h
> so you could theoretically try this out:
>
> a) make configure
> b) edit work/dbus-1.2.16/config.h and #define DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS there
> c) reinstall dbus
> d) see what happens
>
>
I'll try. We'll see what happens.
Hmm, when DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS is set, there is no indication that the system
is trying to start up xfce4-session at all. Strange.


> No guarantees and use at you own risk, etc.
>
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>



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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:05:31AM -0500, Programmer In Training wrote:
> Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do
> recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with
> FF 3.6 would be available.
>
> I ask because I am the one who started this thread.
>
> I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing
> and bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions
> because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still
> some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to)
> and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year
> hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).

I'm not deeply involved in the FreeBSD project.  I just use it and make
my donations to the FreeBSD Foundation.  I try to make good bug reports
when I find issues.  I read the mailing lists.  That's about the extent
of my involvement.

The trouble with offers of "cycles and space" is everyone offers that.
Why not, it doesn't cost them anything?  Except for the ports cluster, I
don't think the project is short on "cycles and space".  Unfortunately,
the ports cluster appears to require dedicated hardware, not just spare
cycles such as the distributed.net type projects could use.

What the project appears to be short on is programmers willing to do the
work.  There seem to be several programmers who would like to work on
FreeBSD stuff more regularly.  The more specific resource which may be
missing is programmers with sufficient money to pay their bills, feed
their families, and who still have time to work on FreeBSD.

If you want a particular something accomplished, and do not have the
coding skills to do it yourself, you might try offering to fund a
programmer to scratch your itch.  If you can't afford sufficient funds
to get a programmer's attention, you might setup a bounty through
with multiple people can contribute toward scratching their common
itch.  Your time spent coordinating the bounty efforts would be a quite
valuable contribution to the project.

I think many people are simply worn out from politely refusing the
offers of "cycles and space" and may be a bit testy in general.  Just
remember, e-mail can usually be read as having a much harsher tone than
the author intended.  That is as true for messages sent by you as for
messages sent in reply to your message.  I'm as guilty as the next guy
of inferring a harsh tone from an e-mail.  Also, it seems like everyone,
including those in meat space near me, have been a bit extra touchy
lately.  It might help if everyone could just make allowances for the
possibility that the other guy is just having a bad day.  Don't take
mailing lists so seriously.

So, everyone, step away from the computer.  Look at how nicely spring
is shaping up.  Get some sunlight.  Take a deep breath, smile, and try
again.  Here in Arkansas, we have a lot of daffodils up.  The fruit
trees are flowering.  The grass is greening up.

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:05:31 -0500
Programmer In Training  articulated:

>On 03/19/10 07:14, Robert Huff wrote:
>
>>  and what I remember of the original post, which came across
>> as:
>> 
>>  "FreeBSD doesn't have X?  Do you not realize how important X
>>  is?  Bunch of losers.  Fix it, or I'm outta here."
>> 
>>  and - seen that way - drew a predictable and quite human
>> reaction.  Especially when the poster seems to be somewhat more
>> clueful than someone who is trying FreeBSD becuase "My geek friends
>> said I should use Linux.".
>
>Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do
>recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with FF
>3.6 would be available.
>
>I ask because I am the one who started this thread.
>
>I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and
>bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions
>because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still
>some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to)
>and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year
>hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).

Is there any reason that you don't simply install 'bash'? I use it as
my shell and love it.

>If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to
>be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will
>leave. It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at
>least making an effort to not be a n00b.

Don't take it personal. Whether or not you are praised or ridiculed
depends entirely on where you are seated. Saying Microsoft sucks
because they don't have {Applet of your choice} and you will be
praised. Complain that your OS of choice lacks a feature that is
readily available on other OS's and you will be chastised. It just goes
with the territory. At times it can get really hilarious.

Remember, saying Microsoft, or any other operating system lacks a
feature is insightful criticism; saying your OS lacks a feature is flame
bait and counter productive. Once you remember that, the rest is easy.


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Re: New portmgr secretary: Thomas Abthorpe

2010-03-19 Thread Gabor Kovesdan

On 18/03/2010 21:47, Erwin Lansing wrote:

On behalf of portmgr, I am pleased to announce that portmgr has found
a new secretary: Thomas Abthorpe.  Thomas has been a FreeBSD ports committer
since 2007 and has made more than 1000 commits since.  He has previously
served on the ports-security team and is currently a member of the KDE
and donation teams. He has also mentored several new ports committers
over the years.

In his role as portmgr secretary, Thomas will help portmgr keep track of
ongoing issues, keeps the portmgr, and other bookkeeping work like
organizing votes and stay in touch with other FreeBSD teams.

Please welcome him onboard!
   
Congrats to Thomas for the secretary hat and to Erwin for the FreeBSD 
Foundation director hat.


Gabor

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Re: [RFC] PHP 5.3

2010-03-19 Thread Sean McAfee

Alex Dupre wrote:

Oliver Schonrock ha scritto:
We are desparately waiting for this to be committed to ports. 


Any way we can help Alex?


The update is ready, I'm just waiting for ports freeze end.



Do you happen to have the patchset posted anywhere?  I'd be more than 
happy to just use those locally until the unfreeze happens.


TIA,

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Re: FreeBSD Port: php5-extensions-1.3

2010-03-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Ефремов Александр Валерьевич ha scritto:
> At a connection to firebird using php-interbase extension php falls in
> core. When will correct?

Can you try to modify the php5-interbase port (config.m4), in order to
link to libgds instead of libfbclient and tell me if something changes?

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Re: New portmgr secretary: Thomas Abthorpe

2010-03-19 Thread Greg Larkin
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Erwin Lansing wrote:
> On behalf of portmgr, I am pleased to announce that portmgr has found
> a new secretary: Thomas Abthorpe.  Thomas has been a FreeBSD ports committer
> since 2007 and has made more than 1000 commits since.  He has previously
> served on the ports-security team and is currently a member of the KDE
> and donation teams. He has also mentored several new ports committers
> over the years.
> 
> In his role as portmgr secretary, Thomas will help portmgr keep track of
> ongoing issues, keeps the portmgr, and other bookkeeping work like
> organizing votes and stay in touch with other FreeBSD teams.
> 
> Please welcome him onboard!
> 
> -erwin
> 

Congratulations, Thomas, for a well-deserved accolade! I appreciate your
multi-faceted contributions to the project, especially mentoring so many
new committers.

Best regards,
Greg
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Re: [RFC] PHP 5.3

2010-03-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Oliver Schonrock ha scritto:
> We are desparately waiting for this to be committed to ports. 
> 
> Any way we can help Alex?

The update is ready, I'm just waiting for ports freeze end.

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[RFC] PHP 5.3

2010-03-19 Thread Oliver Schonrock
On Wed Jan 20 14:05:38 UTC 2010 Alex Dupre wrote :
> "Patch updated. This should be the final patch. I'm going to commit it
> when PHP 5.3.2 will be released."

http://www.php.net/archive/2010.php#id2010-03-04-1

We are desparately waiting for this to be committed to ports. 

Any way we can help Alex?

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Programmer In Training
On 03/19/10 07:14, Robert Huff wrote:

>   and what I remember of the original post, which came across as:
> 
>   "FreeBSD doesn't have X?  Do you not realize how important X
>   is?  Bunch of losers.  Fix it, or I'm outta here."
> 
>   and - seen that way - drew a predictable and quite human
> reaction.  Especially when the poster seems to be somewhat more
> clueful than someone who is trying FreeBSD becuase "My geek friends
> said I should use Linux.".

Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do
recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with FF
3.6 would be available.

I ask because I am the one who started this thread.

I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and
bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions because
I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still some things
in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to) and of FreeBSD
(I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year hiatus from any
time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)).

If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to
be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will leave.
It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at least
making an effort to not be a n00b.

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Re: lang/guile fails to build on amd64 / 9-CURRENT

2010-03-19 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 18/03/2010 22:13 Doug Barton said the following:
> On 03/18/10 04:43, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
 touch /etc/make.conf && echo "CFLAGS += -Wno-error" >> /etc/make.conf
>>> No reason for the touch first, FWIW.
>> Some shells aren't willing to append to files which don't already exist:
>>
>> # echo "CFLAGS += -Wno-error" >> /etc/make.conf
>> zsh: no such file or directory: /etc/make.conf
> 
> Oh, well, that's just stupid. :)  One more reason not to use zsh ...

$ echo "CFLAGS += -Wno-error" >> /tmp/sure-doesnt-exist
$ echo $?
0

This is zsh with default setting.
So, don't blame on zsh what a smart user can inflict upon himself via
configuration :-)

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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Robert Huff

Jerry writes:

>  >People who provide suggestions on how things _should_ be 
>  >without being able to help make them that way shouldn't be
>  >surprised when they get a possibly negative response. Both
>  >parties would be better served by ignoring such comments altogether.
>  
>  So, what you are inferring is that before an individual makes a
>  suggestion for an improvement, modification or whatever in a
>  product, they should be fully capable of instigating that
>  change/modification themselves. Is that correct?

That's not what I, and seemingly others, read.
There's a difference between:

"FreeBSD doesn't have this {feature, (working) port}.  I
really wish it did, and I think there's more people than you
realize looking for it."

hopefully followed by:

"What can I do to help?"

and what I remember of the original post, which came across as:

"FreeBSD doesn't have X?  Do you not realize how important X
is?  Bunch of losers.  Fix it, or I'm outta here."

and - seen that way - drew a predictable and quite human
reaction.  Especially when the poster seems to be somewhat more
clueful than someone who is trying FreeBSD becuase "My geek friends
said I should use Linux.".


Robert Huff



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FreeBSD Port: php5-extensions-1.3

2010-03-19 Thread Ефремов Александр Валер ьевич

Hello.
At a connection to firebird using php-interbase extension php falls in 
core. When will correct?


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Re: Java For Firefox

2010-03-19 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:27:12 -0700
Doug Barton  articulated:

>People who provide suggestions on how things _should_ be without being
>able to help make them that way shouldn't be surprised when they get a
>possibly negative response. Both parties would be better served by
>ignoring such comments altogether.

So, what you are inferring is that before an individual makes a
suggestion for an improvement, modification or whatever in a product,
they should be fully capable of instigating that change/modification
themselves. Is that correct? In other words, what you are inferring is
that if the end user is not capable of fixing/correcting/modifying/etc
the product themselves, they should just keep their opinions to
themselves. Would I be paraphrasing your statement correctly?

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Re: [Call for Testing] X.org 7.5 for FreeBSD

2010-03-19 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:20:23 +0100
Torfinn Ingolfsen  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Adam Vande More 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, it says:
> >> process 36926: arguments to dbus_message_new_signal() were incorrect,
> >> assertion
> >> "_dbus_check_is_valid_path (path)" failed in file dbus-message.c line
> >> 1165.
> >> This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
> >>  D-Bus is not compiled with backtrace support so unable to print a
> >> backtrace
> >>
> >> I don't know if that message is a red herring or not.
> >> I recompiled dbus with:
> >> make -DWITH_DEBUG all deinstall reinstall
> >>
> >> But that didn't help a bit.
> >>
> >
> > Did you restart dbus after that?
> >
> 
> Yes, I did. But I understand the question. :-)
> 

[I trimmed Cc]

Looking at dbus-memory.c it checks whether DBUS_MALLOC_BACKTRACES is set
in its environment.  If it is, it will try to do a backtrace.

Unfortunately, the pre-requisites for actually doing the backtrace
aren't met with FreeBSD (HAVE_BACKTRACE and DBUS_BUILT_R_DYNAMIC
defined in config.h) so it won't work anyway.

It is possible to turn off all checking by defining DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS
in config.h _before_ compiling dbus, but that may be a bad idea.

Anyway, there's alreay /* #undef DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS */ in config.h
so you could theoretically try this out:

a) make configure
b) edit work/dbus-1.2.16/config.h and #define DBUS_DISABLE_CHECKS there
c) reinstall dbus
d) see what happens

No guarantees and use at you own risk, etc.

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Re: [Call for Testing] X.org 7.5 for FreeBSD

2010-03-19 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Garrett Cooper  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Gary Jennejohn <
> gary.jennej...@freenet.de>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip the rest]
> >>
> >> Do you have any strange malloc(3) flags set?
> >>
> > Not that I know of.
> > r...@kg-v7# more /etc/src.conf
> > /etc/src.conf: No such file or directory
> > r...@kg-v7# more /etc/make.conf
> > # added by use.perl 2010-03-12 20:15:36
> > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1
>
> I think Gary meant, is /etc/malloc.conf set to anything?
>

Aha! I didn't know about that one.
No, it isn't set:
 r...@kg-v7# ls -l /etc/malloc.conf
ls: /etc/malloc.conf: No such file or directory
r...@kg-v7# env | grep MALLOC
r...@kg-v7#

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Re: New portmgr secretary: Thomas Abthorpe

2010-03-19 Thread Rene Ladan
2010/3/18 Erwin Lansing :
> On behalf of portmgr, I am pleased to announce that portmgr has found
> a new secretary: Thomas Abthorpe.  Thomas has been a FreeBSD ports committer
> since 2007 and has made more than 1000 commits since.  He has previously
> served on the ports-security team and is currently a member of the KDE
> and donation teams. He has also mentored several new ports committers
> over the years.
>
> In his role as portmgr secretary, Thomas will help portmgr keep track of
> ongoing issues, keeps the portmgr, and other bookkeeping work like
> organizing votes and stay in touch with other FreeBSD teams.
>
> Please welcome him onboard!
>
portmgr++ :)

Rene
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