Re: FreeBSD Ports: sylpheed, gnash, seamonkey

2011-07-26 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Oliver Lehmann lehm...@ans-netz.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm working on it.

Thank you.
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Re: Xfce 4.8 updates synchronized with latest snapshot of marcuscom.com repository

2011-07-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:00:33 +0200
Olivier Duchateau duchateau.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

 In tarball, you can find also x11-fm/thunar-devel (v1.3.0 instead of
 v1.2.x), and patches for audio/thunar-media-tags-plugin [2].

Is there any solution on the horizon in regard to Thunar  auto-mounting?

I tried KDE 2 days ago...automount works, but I'm back to Xfce and would like
to continues using it on (Free)PCBSD desktop...just curious if something might
change for 4.10?


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Re: [ANNOUNCE]: clang compiling ports, take 2

2011-07-26 Thread Florent Thoumie
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:06 PM, George Liaskos geo.lias...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello!

 I added some jquery for sorting / searching at the latest clang exp run.
 http://cybertron.gr/errorlogs/amd64-errorlogs/e.9-exp.20110723205754/index.html

 I hope you 'll find it useful.

The table should be sortable already, just click on the column name.

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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Michel Talon
Jerry wrote:

 While we are on the subject of port management tools, I still use
 portmanager when a version bump on a port requires that a massive
 number of dependencies be rebuild. I have had all too many instances
 when both portupgrade and portmaster simply bombed out and left me
 with only a partially updated system, and in many cases, a virtually
 useless one. Portmanager would simple get the job done right the first
 time. It might be overkill for one or two port upgrades; however, it
 works fine on massive projects that seem to bewilder the other two
 competing contenders. The p5-libwww-5* example in the case of
 portmaster being a perfect example.

This subject of port management tools is a subject i have been much
interested in some years ago, and i must say that the problems which
seem to surface now in the general consensus, i had discussed them 
without any echo at the time. Having a system partially updated hence 
requiring a lot of work to fix with portupgrade happened to me several
times. Horrific slowness of portupgrade was perfectly obvious years ago.
I think most of the problems come from errors in the ports themselves
so are unfixable through ameliorations in the upgrade tools. I think
only a more rigorous management of the ports, i mean something like the 
separation between unstable, testing, stable in Debian, with rigorous
procedures for going from one state to the better one could cure this
problem, but at the expense of slowing the development. More
importantly, only a procedure centered around *binary* packages could
possibly lead to a guaranteed decent state of the ports. Centering
things around source code can only lead to confusion, incessant messing
by both developers and users with various options etc. which can only
destabilize the system. Anyways, to come back to port management tools 
i don't know how portmanager works, but i think that both portupgrade
and portmaster have a fundamental flaw in that they both work locally,
upgrading one port after another until the job is finished, which means
that the state of the machine is constantly modified, possibly into
a broken state, without any possibility for the user to know beforehand
that he is headed to failure. A proper tool should do a first pass
describing exactly the initial state and the final state so that the end
user can choose to upgrade or not. This is what Debian apt-get (or
aptitude) does, it describes before any destructive action begins what
will be removed, what will be installed. This can only work reliably if
you have binary packages, otherwise you can never be sure that a source
port will compile. The only *BSD i am aware of that has moved in that
direction is OpenBSD. From what i hear, people are happy with the
management of ports in OpenBSD, while most of people i hear are very
unhappy with FreeBSD ports.




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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:27 +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
[ Stuff about how we should move to binary packages because Debian. ]


Sure, why not kill one of the biggest strengths FreeBSD is known for
while we're at it...

Two questions:

Who will provide the infrastructure to build me all of my packages the
day/hour/moment moment I need them and constantly build me the i386,
amd64, athlon-tbird optimized, k8-sse3 optimized, -O2 and -O3 optimized,
intel-core optimized, and intel-p3 optimized batches for all of my
machines?

Who will constantly build and maintain my custom set of binary packages
and all their dependencies built with the exact specific OPTIONS that I
need and without the components that I don't want? Because I'm in no
mood for experiencing the hell of Linux users that can't even remove
ALSA from their systems and fully switch to 4Front OSS, as all of their
distro's packages are built against ALSA anyway, in some cases even
exclusively, with OSS support completely removed, because why not.

So no, thanks, I'm one of those that are perfectly happy with my
fundamentally flawed source-based ports. Take that away and you might as
well as kill FreeBSD for me, and probably anyone else I know.


m.



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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Michel Talon
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:38:35, vous avez écrit :


 Sure, why not kill one of the biggest strengths FreeBSD is known for
 while we're at it...

Or most obvious weakness ... The biggest strength was a good kernel, better 
than Linux, but this was years ago.

 
 Two questions:
 
 Who will provide the infrastructure to build me all of my packages the
 day/hour/moment moment I need them and constantly build me the i386,
 amd64, athlon-tbird optimized, k8-sse3 optimized, -O2 and -O3 optimized,
 intel-core optimized, and intel-p3 optimized batches for all of my
 machines?
 
 Who will constantly build and maintain my custom set of binary packages
 and all their dependencies built with the exact specific OPTIONS that I
 need and without the components that I don't want?

This stuff you are mentioning is the precise reason why people have problems 
with the ports system. By the way, all your optimisations have next to zero 
impact on performance, and introduce a sizable probability of bugs. And
the components you don't want use an infinitesimal part of your hard disk and 
nothing in your memory. At the end of the day this sort of feature buys no 
benefit at all and introduces an infinite combinatoric complexity for people
wanting to test the ports system.
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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Steve Wills
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On 07/25/11 08:25, Tilman Keskinöz wrote:
 
 I shortly went through the list.
 
 There are currently 22 PRs filed against portupgrade
 
 Of these:
 
 4 are general problems of the ports collection/pkg_tools.
 (architecture-specific INDEX, Detecting of OPTIONs set,
 Overriding/removing files changed by the user etc.)
 
 2 are documentation bugs
 
 1 wishlist item
 
 4 contain patches
 
 1 i believed is already fixed, i set to feedback.
 
 So this leaves the following, which need someone (a maintainer?) to
 investigate/write a patch:
 

snip

 IMHO the situation is not that bad, that we need to DEPRECATE it.
 

Many thanks for going through them, that helps a great deal.

I submitted some changes which should help with Ruby 1.9 compatibility,
which Stanislav has pushed out to portupgrade-devel. I did some minimal
testing with them, but they need more testing. If folks could test the
updated portupgrade-devel, with both Ruby 1.8 and Ruby 1.9, I'd
appreciate it. That would help us get past the Ruby 1.9 compatibility issue.

Thanks,
Steve
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multimedia/handbrake 0.9.5

2011-07-26 Thread ben wilber
Hi,

I was unhappy that the HandBrake port was outdated and didn't work on
amd64, so I updated it to the best of my ability.  Hopefully it's
acceptable, or will at least give someone a head start.

http://desync.com/~bw/handbrake.tar.gz

Only tested on -CURRENT amd64 and RELENG_8 i386.

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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- You/Michel (Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:27:56 +0200) *
| while most of people i hear are very unhappy with FreeBSD ports.

Nuts.

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Re: FreeBSD Ports: sylpheed, gnash, seamonkey

2011-07-26 Thread Emanuel Haupt
Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Marco Alberoni
 m.alber...@cineca.it wrote:
  Hello everybody, I usually use the applications Sylpheed, Gnash and
  Seamonkey, and for all of them there the FreeBSD port is not
  synchronized with the latest available version: are there any
  problems for their upgrade?
 
 Sylpheed 3.1.1 was released on May 6th, 2011. And on July 1st, 2011
 Sylpheed 3.2beta1 was released.
 What are the current plans for upgrading the Sylpheed port (if any)?

I've just updated the port after a 15 day maintainer timeout. See:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/158798

Emanuel
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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:35PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
 Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:38:35, vous avez ??crit :
 
 
  Sure, why not kill one of the biggest strengths FreeBSD is known for
  while we're at it...
 
 Or most obvious weakness ... The biggest strength was a good kernel, better 
 than Linux, but this was years ago.
 
  
  Two questions:
  
  Who will provide the infrastructure to build me all of my packages the
  day/hour/moment moment I need them and constantly build me the i386,
  amd64, athlon-tbird optimized, k8-sse3 optimized, -O2 and -O3 optimized,
  intel-core optimized, and intel-p3 optimized batches for all of my
  machines?
  
  Who will constantly build and maintain my custom set of binary packages
  and all their dependencies built with the exact specific OPTIONS that I
  need and without the components that I don't want?
 
 This stuff you are mentioning is the precise reason why people have problems 
 with the ports system. By the way, all your optimisations have next to zero 
 impact on performance, and introduce a sizable probability of bugs. And
 the components you don't want use an infinitesimal part of your hard disk and 
 nothing in your memory. At the end of the day this sort of feature buys no 
 benefit at all and introduces an infinite combinatoric complexity for people
 wanting to test the ports system.

Ports, manuals and the people.
This is why I use FreeBSD.
Don't mess with ports.

Have no opinion on portupgrade, never used it,
portmaster does most of what I need, except
for massive updates, e.g. recent icu update.
portmaster -r fails for me most of the time
(sometimes this is nothing to do with the
update tool, but simply because I'm on
ia64 and sparc64). I guess one has to
accept that manual intervention is
required for complex updates.

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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote:
 Jerry wrote:

 While we are on the subject of port management tools, I still use
 portmanager when a version bump on a port requires that a massive
 number of dependencies be rebuild. I have had all too many instances
 when both portupgrade and portmaster simply bombed out and left me
 with only a partially updated system, and in many cases, a virtually
 useless one. Portmanager would simple get the job done right the first
 time. It might be overkill for one or two port upgrades; however, it
 works fine on massive projects that seem to bewilder the other two
 competing contenders. The p5-libwww-5* example in the case of
 portmaster being a perfect example.

 This subject of port management tools is a subject i have been much

The subject we were discussing was portupgrade; if you want to discuss
something else, please start a new thread.
Thank you.

 interested in some years ago, and i must say that the problems which
 seem to surface now in the general consensus, i had discussed them
 without any echo at the time. Having a system partially updated hence
 requiring a lot of work to fix with portupgrade happened to me several
 times. Horrific slowness of portupgrade was perfectly obvious years ago.
 I think most of the problems come from errors in the ports themselves
 so are unfixable through ameliorations in the upgrade tools. I think
 only a more rigorous management of the ports, i mean something like the
 separation between unstable, testing, stable in Debian, with rigorous
 procedures for going from one state to the better one could cure this
 problem, but at the expense of slowing the development. More
 importantly, only a procedure centered around *binary* packages could
 possibly lead to a guaranteed decent state of the ports. Centering
 things around source code can only lead to confusion, incessant messing
 by both developers and users with various options etc. which can only
 destabilize the system. Anyways, to come back to port management tools
 i don't know how portmanager works, but i think that both portupgrade
 and portmaster have a fundamental flaw in that they both work locally,
 upgrading one port after another until the job is finished, which means
 that the state of the machine is constantly modified, possibly into
 a broken state, without any possibility for the user to know beforehand
 that he is headed to failure. A proper tool should do a first pass
 describing exactly the initial state and the final state so that the end
 user can choose to upgrade or not. This is what Debian apt-get (or
 aptitude) does, it describes before any destructive action begins what
 will be removed, what will be installed. This can only work reliably if
 you have binary packages, otherwise you can never be sure that a source
 port will compile. The only *BSD i am aware of that has moved in that
 direction is OpenBSD. From what i hear, people are happy with the
 management of ports in OpenBSD, while most of people i hear are very
 unhappy with FreeBSD ports.

I would say that most people your hear isn't a representative subset
of all the people who use ports.
In my experience anyway.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE]: clang compiling ports, take 2

2011-07-26 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 25.07.2011 17:59, schrieb Roman Divacky:
 Hi!
   
   
 Flz@ just run another exp-build with CC=clang and CXX=clang++. The results 
 can be
 seen here:
   
   
 http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-errorlogs/e.9-exp.20110723205754/
 
 
 Since the last run we've managed to fix the biggest offenders but that
 uncovered others that need fixing. The Reason column was extended and now
 shows assumes_gcc which is the lowest hanging fruit :)
   
 A lot of these failures are trivial to fix (ie. assumes_gcc reason) and 
 prevent
 a lot of other ports from building.
   
 It would be great if you could skim over the list to see if some of the ports
 you maintain are broken and possibly try to fix them. A small introduction 
 into
 the Clang+Ports can be read at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsAndClang.
   
 Please focus on the biggest offenders (ie. ports that prevent the most other
 ports from building).

Greetings,

there is one serious issue that spoilt (as discussed with kwm and rene
on IRC) a major part of this -exp run.

Namely: if a port sets USE_GCC=4.2+ (for instance, sysutils/busybox does
that), the Pointyhat build does not install GCC.  I think the bug is in
ports/Mk/bsd.gcc.mk which is unaware that there are newer clang-based
9-CURRENT systems without gcc.

I hope we can have another -exp run soon that addresses this.

Thanks.

Best regards,
Matthias
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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:56:14 +0200
Torfinn Ingolfsen articulated:

 I would say that most people your hear isn't a representative subset
 of all the people who use ports.
 In my experience anyway.

And that would be based on what, people you interact with which may or
may not be a fully represented cross section of the entire FreeBSD
community.

Michel Talon simple made a statement based on a qualitative analysis of
the individuals he had come into contact with or had reason to
otherwise receive or access input from. Your statement is of no more
value as a definitive assertion than his, so why belittle his remarks?

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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Torfinn Ingolfsen on Tuesday, 26 July 2011:
snip
  From what i hear, people are happy with the
  management of ports in OpenBSD, while most of people i hear are very
  unhappy with FreeBSD ports.
 
 I would say that most people your hear isn't a representative subset
 of all the people who use ports.
 In my experience anyway.

Right.  Don't say most people unless you can back it up with a
statistically significant sampling.  I expect the experiences of FreeBSD
users vary much more than most people imagine.  Those who have serious
difficulties with the ports system may wrongly imagine that all FreeBSD
users have the same less than delightful experience.  Personally, even
though I've run into a few issues with ports, I prefer the current system
of building from source.  Of course I welcome improvements, but not at
the expense of the flexibility we enjoy.

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Re: french/aster ignores PYTHON_VERSION= 2.6 ?

2011-07-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 06:22:31PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote:
 Anton Shterenlikht wrote on 20.07.2011 17:44:
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 04:55:59PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote:
 
 As far i understand PYTHON_VERSION hold value like 'python2.7', so you
 should correct this in your Makefile. Or just use USE_PYTHON = 2.6
 
 No, PYTHON_VERSION seems to be overwritten by something else.
 I removed all but the PYTHON parts from the Makefile,
 and get this:
 
 
 Yes, i see this in bsd.python.mk:
 # Define PYTHON_VERSION to override the
 # defaults that USE_PYTHON would give you.
 
 But it seems not true. Here is my test Makefile:
 mrk@smeshariki2$ cat Makefile
 PORTNAME= blah
 DISTVERSION=  1.0
 CATEGORIES=   misc
 COMMENT=  Some dumb port for testing
 
 USE_PYTHON=   yes
 
 .include bsd.port.pre.mk
 
 .if ${ARCH} == i386
 PYTHON_VERSION=   python2.6
 .endif
 
 .include bsd.port.post.mk
 
 mrk@smeshariki2$ make depends
 ===   blah-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.7 - found
 ===   blah-1.0 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.7 - found
 
 mrk@smeshariki2$ uname -p
 i386
 
 I added python@ to cc, since it seems like bsd.python.mk bug to me (or 
 documentation bug).
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Ruslan

I've heard nothing back within a week.
Shall I submit a pr?

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distfile status - do I have to do something about it?

2011-07-26 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I maintain these 2 ports:

http://people.freebsd.org/~ehaupt/distilator/me...@bristol.ac.uk-bad.html

Do I have to do something about it?

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Re: distfile status - do I have to do something about it?

2011-07-26 Thread Rene Ladan
Op 26-07-2011 20:09, Anton Shterenlikht schreef:
 I maintain these 2 ports:
 
 http://people.freebsd.org/~ehaupt/distilator/me...@bristol.ac.uk-bad.html
 
 Do I have to do something about it?
 
The 500s should be transient errors, if they persist you might try to
contact the server admins.  The NXDOMAIN might be more persistent, but I
also see them sometimes and sometimes not for my own server (which is
always-on).

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INDEX build failed for 7.x

2011-07-26 Thread Erwin Lansing
INDEX build failed with errors:
Generating INDEX-7 - please wait.. Done.
make_index: msp430-libc-gcc4-1.0.20110612: no entry for 
/usr/ports/devel/msp430mcu
make_index: msp430-libc-gcc4-1.0.20110612: no entry for 
/usr/ports/devel/msp430mcu

Committers on the hook:
lev 

Most recent CVS update was:
U UPDATING
U devel/msp430-binutils/Makefile
U devel/msp430-binutils/distinfo
U devel/msp430-binutils/pkg-descr
U devel/msp430-binutils/pkg-plist
U devel/msp430-binutils/files/patch-Makefile.in
U devel/msp430-gcc/Makefile
U devel/msp430-gcc/distinfo
U devel/msp430-gcc/pkg-descr
U devel/msp430-gcc/pkg-plist
U devel/msp430-gcc/files/patch-Makefile.in
U devel/msp430-gcc/files/patch-gcc-Makefile.in
U devel/msp430-gcc3/Makefile
U devel/msp430-gcc3/pkg-plist
U devel/msp430-gdb/Makefile
U devel/msp430-gdb/distinfo
U devel/msp430-gdb/pkg-plist
U devel/msp430-libc/Makefile
U devel/msp430-libc/distinfo
U devel/msp430-libc/pkg-descr
U devel/msp430-libc/pkg-plist
U devel/msp430mcu/Makefile
U devel/msp430mcu/distinfo
U devel/msp430mcu/pkg-descr
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Which to bump for distfile location change?

2011-07-26 Thread Bob Eager
Following a recent post to this list, I need to update a port, just to
change a distfile location.

It seems excessive to bump PORTREVISION, so what is the best thing to
change (if any).
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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread RW
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:13:20 -0700
Chip Camden wrote:

 Quoth Torfinn Ingolfsen on Tuesday, 26 July 2011:
 snip
   From what i hear, people are happy with the
   management of ports in OpenBSD, while most of people i hear are
   very unhappy with FreeBSD ports.
  
  I would say that most people your hear isn't a representative
  subset of all the people who use ports.
  In my experience anyway.
 
 Right.  Don't say most people unless you can back it up with a
 statistically significant sampling.  I expect the experiences of
 FreeBSD users vary much more than most people imagine. 

It seems more reasonable than the idea that most people using FreeBSD
are doing so despite being very unhappy with FreeBSD ports. If that's
really true then we should give Beastie nipple-clamps and a ball-gag to
better appeal to our key demographic.
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Re: Which to bump for distfile location change?

2011-07-26 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
 Following a recent post to this list, I need to update a port, just to
 change a distfile location.
 
 It seems excessive to bump PORTREVISION, so what is the best thing to
 change (if any).

Probably nothing-- if someone already has a copy of the distfile, and there are 
no other changes, then there is no need to force them to rebuild the port by 
bumping PORTREVISION.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Which to bump for distfile location change?

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Jul 2011 20:47, Bob Eager r...@tavi.co.uk wrote:

 Following a recent post to this list, I need to update a port, just to
 change a distfile location.

 It seems excessive to bump PORTREVISION, so what is the best thing to
 change (if any).


No default package change, no portrevision bump. Leave it as is.

Chris
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Re: INDEX build failed for 7.x

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Rees
Fixed -- attached msp430mcu to build.

Chris

On 26 July 2011 20:24, Erwin Lansing er...@freebsd.org wrote:
 INDEX build failed with errors:
 Generating INDEX-7 - please wait.. Done.
 make_index: msp430-libc-gcc4-1.0.20110612: no entry for 
 /usr/ports/devel/msp430mcu
 make_index: msp430-libc-gcc4-1.0.20110612: no entry for 
 /usr/ports/devel/msp430mcu

 Committers on the hook:
 lev

 Most recent CVS update was:
 U UPDATING
 U devel/msp430-binutils/Makefile
 U devel/msp430-binutils/distinfo
 U devel/msp430-binutils/pkg-descr
 U devel/msp430-binutils/pkg-plist
 U devel/msp430-binutils/files/patch-Makefile.in
 U devel/msp430-gcc/Makefile
 U devel/msp430-gcc/distinfo
 U devel/msp430-gcc/pkg-descr
 U devel/msp430-gcc/pkg-plist
 U devel/msp430-gcc/files/patch-Makefile.in
 U devel/msp430-gcc/files/patch-gcc-Makefile.in
 U devel/msp430-gcc3/Makefile
 U devel/msp430-gcc3/pkg-plist
 U devel/msp430-gdb/Makefile
 U devel/msp430-gdb/distinfo
 U devel/msp430-gdb/pkg-plist
 U devel/msp430-libc/Makefile
 U devel/msp430-libc/distinfo
 U devel/msp430-libc/pkg-descr
 U devel/msp430-libc/pkg-plist
 U devel/msp430mcu/Makefile
 U devel/msp430mcu/distinfo
 U devel/msp430mcu/pkg-descr
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Re: Time to mark portupgrade deprecated?

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Brennan
On 7/26/2011 3:28 PM, RW wrote:
 It seems more reasonable than the idea that most people using FreeBSD
 are doing so despite being very unhappy with FreeBSD ports. If that's
 really true then we should give Beastie nipple-clamps and a ball-gag to
 better appeal to our key demographic.
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+1 just because the thought of that is funny as hell!

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Re: Which to bump for distfile location change?

2011-07-26 Thread Wesley Shields
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:08:13PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
 On 26 Jul 2011 20:47, Bob Eager r...@tavi.co.uk wrote:
 
  Following a recent post to this list, I need to update a port, just to
  change a distfile location.
 
  It seems excessive to bump PORTREVISION, so what is the best thing to
  change (if any).
 
 
 No default package change, no portrevision bump. Leave it as is.

Chris is right but I don't want to give people the impression that is
the only time to bump PORTREVISION.

While the default package change rule of thumb is always a good one
there is more to it than just that when deciding to bump PORTREVISION or
not. Here's the rough questions I go through in my head when I'm facing
this kind of decision:

If the default package changes, bump it. Only caveat here is if it's a
minor change (say a typo in a man page or something).

If it's chasing a shlib bump of another port and this port defaults to
off, bump it anyways as some people may be bit by this.

If it's a change to an option that defaults to off, and one can expect a
reasonable number of people to benefit from it, bump it.

I'm sure there are others and I'm sure some people will disagree with
some of these. But those are the rough guidelines I follow.

-- WXS
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INDEX now builds successfully on 7.x

2011-07-26 Thread Erwin Lansing

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Re: FreeBSD Ports: sylpheed, gnash, seamonkey

2011-07-26 Thread Oliver Lehmann

Hi,

I'm working on it.


Zhihao Yuan lich...@gmail.com wrote:


It's updating to 3.1.1
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/158798
I guess this will be committed soon. Or you can just patch and try  
it earlier.


On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Marco Alberoni  
m.alber...@cineca.it wrote:

Hello everybody, I usually use the applications Sylpheed, Gnash and
Seamonkey, and for all of them there the FreeBSD port is not synchronized
with the latest available version: are there any problems for  
their upgrade?


Sylpheed 3.1.1 was released on May 6th, 2011. And on July 1st, 2011
Sylpheed 3.2beta1 was released.
What are the current plans for upgrading the Sylpheed port (if any)?

Have a nice day.
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Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen
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Re: french/aster ignores PYTHON_VERSION= 2.6 ?

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:46:17PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote:
 Add Mk/bsd.python.mk to description field

a good idea, but ...

 so it will be assigned to portmgr@.

portmgr@ doesn't own all the bsd.*.mk files; bsd.python.mk is owned by
python@.  We're happy to put an -exp run in the queue for large changes,
but it's not necessary for something small.  (Note: I only scanned this
email quickly so don't know which one it is :-) )

mcl
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Re: french/aster ignores PYTHON_VERSION= 2.6 ?

2011-07-26 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov

Mark Linimon wrote on 27.07.2011 06:44:

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:46:17PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote:

Add Mk/bsd.python.mk to description field


a good idea, but ...


so it will be assigned to portmgr@.


portmgr@ doesn't own all the bsd.*.mk files; bsd.python.mk is owned by
python@.  We're happy to put an -exp run in the queue for large changes,
but it's not necessary for something small.  (Note: I only scanned this
email quickly so don't know which one it is :-) )

mcl


Ok, i was confused.

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