Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Chris Rees
On 9 Sep 2012 00:11, Jeffrey Bouquet jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:



 --- On Sat, 9/8/12, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS
  To: Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@osx.kode5.net
  Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
  Date: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 2:42 PM
  On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Jamie
  Paul Griffin ja...@osx.kode5.net
  wrote:
   [ Lars Eighner wrote on Fri  7.Sep'12 at 10:00:45
  -0500 ]
  
   On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Beat Gaetzi wrote:
  
   The development of FreeBSD ports is done in
  Subversion nowadays.
   For the sake of compatibility a Subversion to
  CVS exporter is
   in place which has some limitations. For CVSup
  mirroring cvsup
   based on Ezm3 is used which breaks regularly
  especially on amd64
   and with Clang and becomes more and more
  unmaintainable.
  
  
   What exactly is the motivation again for moving
  from things which work like
   cvsup and gcc to things that are broken or lame
  like subversion and clang?
  
   They're not broken. I've recently been using them and
  they're fine.
   There has been plenty of discussion about the reasons
  for the changes so
   have a read from the various sites and list archives.
 
  Looks like a troll to me. No one who has worked with
  subversion for a
  project of any size would ever want to go back to CVS. While
  still
  having some of CVS's limitations, it does far, far more and
  is much
  easier to work with for most things. I really miss the
  forced commit
  and, for one application, RANCiD, I use CVS so I can grep
  through the
  ,v files easily. But I can't see any reason for FreeBSD not
  to move
  the the more advanced system.
 
  As to clang, there is no choice there. The license on newer
  version of
  gcc (GPLv3) is simply not acceptable to the community, so
  gcc is stuck
  forever at 4.2 which is getting very old. clang has
  excellent
  development support, an acceptable license, and early tests
  show that
  it generally compiles faster and MAY even generate better,
  faster
  code.
  --
  R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
  E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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 I'd not go so far as to label it trolling
 ...
   I searched quite a bit upon this announcement to find csup  svn
equivalent guides and found little applying to ports...
 hopefully they will appear prior to the changeover?, something
 easily learned?

 
 (disregarding portsnap for the moment, and I apologize...)
 
 (the .htm I saved from the web searches (svn) appear too complex and
 irrelevant to this use case to be of use here...)

For end users portsnap has been a better solution for a long time; it's
faster and also secure; the snapshots are signed.

Perhaps you should give it a try, sine you correctly point out that
Subversion is a pain to install.

Chris
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Re: Apache port

2012-09-09 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Olli Hauer:

Hi Jos,
it's easy, even quickly overseen DBD != BDB
AUTHN_DBD and DBD are SQL modules and this apache options are only 
valid if APR was build with MYSQL, PGSQL or SQLITE support.
In the past we ask the user to specify if APR was build with SQL 
support, now the port checks the existence of 
lib/apr-util-1/apr_dbd_(mysql|pgsql|sqlite).so to see if APR was 
really build with SQL support. 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dbd.html

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authn_dbd.html
I am not a programmer, but what should I do to get rid of this 
situation? I do use Apache with MySQL and have recompiled APR with the 
right options.


kind regards,
Jos
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Re: Apache port

2012-09-09 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Olli,

This is my current setup of Apache:

=== The following configuration options are available for 
apache22-2.2.22_8:

 AUTH_BASIC=on: mod_auth_basic
 AUTH_DIGEST=on: mod_auth_digest
 AUTHN_ALIAS=on: mod_authn_alias
 AUTHN_ANON=on: mod_authn_anon
 AUTHN_DBD=on: mod_authn_dbd
 AUTHN_DBM=on: mod_authn_dbm
 AUTHN_DEFAULT=on: mod_authn_default
 AUTHN_FILE=on: mod_authn_file
 AUTHZ_DBM=off: mod_authz_dbm
 AUTHZ_DEFAULT=on: mod_authz_default
 AUTHZ_GROUPFILE=on: mod_authz_groupfile
 AUTHZ_HOST=on: mod_authz_host
 AUTHZ_OWNER=on: mod_authz_owner
 AUTHZ_USER=on: mod_authz_user
 AUTHNZ_LDAP=off: mod_authnz_ldap
 LDAP=off: connection pooling, result caching
 DBD=on: Manages SQL database connections
 CACHE=on: mod_cache
 DISK_CACHE=on: mod_disk_cache
 FILE_CACHE=on: mod_file_cache

--- cut ---

and this for APR:

_OPTIONS_READ=apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST= THREADS IPV6 DEVRANDOM BDB GDBM LDAP MYSQL 
NDBM PGSQL SQLITE

OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=THREADS
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IPV6
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DEVRANDOM
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=BDB
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LDAP
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=NDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=SQLITE

and I still get the error.

This is the content of the key folder your are scanning on for the check:

Aegir[/usr/local/lib/apr-util-1]

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  57719 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  60214 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1073 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 18 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.so - 
apr_dbd_mysql-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  43272 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  49894 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1005 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 15 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.so - 
apr_dbm_db-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  13722 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11466 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1036 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.so - 
apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  42080 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  47762 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1010 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.so - 
apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  20666 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  24112 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1049 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 13 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.so - apr_ldap-1.so

the files you are scanning for are not there as they have a complete 
different name.


apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
apr_dbm_db-1.so

Perhaps that is the cause I can't install the apache22 upgrade?


Olli Hauer:

On 2012-09-08 17:58, Warren Block wrote:

On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Olli Hauer wrote:


On 2012-09-08 16:22, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

Just updating Apache22 (apache-2.2.22_6) and get this error:

Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
  AUTHN_DBD and DBD requires APR-util to have DBD support build in.
  Please rebuild APR at last with one DBD backend

The issue is that I did config APR with DBD support.

Currently have installed:
apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1   Apache Portability Library

My /var/db/ports/apr/options file contains:

# Options for apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_OPTIONS_READ=apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST= THREADS IPV6 DEVRANDOM BDB GDBM LDAP MYSQL NDBM 
PGSQL SQLITE
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=THREADS
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IPV6
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DEVRANDOM
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=BDB
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LDAP
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=NDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=SQLITE

Can someone tell me how what I do wrong here?



Hi Jos,

it's easy, even quickly overseen DBD != BDB

AUTHN_DBD and DBD are SQL modules and this apache options are only valid if APR
was build with MYSQL, PGSQL or SQLITE support.

In the past we ask the user to specify if APR was build with SQL support,
now the port checks the existence of 
lib/apr-util-1/apr_dbd_(mysql|pgsql|sqlite).so
to see if APR was really build with SQL support.

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dbd.html
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authn_dbd.html


How about adding mention of SQL in the IGNORE message?


I will rewrite the message to
   Please rebuild APR at last with one DBD backend (MYSQL, PGSQL or SQLITE)

Hope then is is more clear.


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Re: Apache port

2012-09-09 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Sorry, it should work as there is a symbolic link for the one you are 
searching for...
Really don't understand why I still get the port is IGNORED line on 
portupgrade -a


Jos

Jos Chrispijn:

Olli,

This is my current setup of Apache:

=== The following configuration options are available for 
apache22-2.2.22_8:

 AUTH_BASIC=on: mod_auth_basic
 AUTH_DIGEST=on: mod_auth_digest
 AUTHN_ALIAS=on: mod_authn_alias
 AUTHN_ANON=on: mod_authn_anon
 AUTHN_DBD=on: mod_authn_dbd
 AUTHN_DBM=on: mod_authn_dbm
 AUTHN_DEFAULT=on: mod_authn_default
 AUTHN_FILE=on: mod_authn_file
 AUTHZ_DBM=off: mod_authz_dbm
 AUTHZ_DEFAULT=on: mod_authz_default
 AUTHZ_GROUPFILE=on: mod_authz_groupfile
 AUTHZ_HOST=on: mod_authz_host
 AUTHZ_OWNER=on: mod_authz_owner
 AUTHZ_USER=on: mod_authz_user
 AUTHNZ_LDAP=off: mod_authnz_ldap
 LDAP=off: connection pooling, result caching
 DBD=on: Manages SQL database connections
 CACHE=on: mod_cache
 DISK_CACHE=on: mod_disk_cache
 FILE_CACHE=on: mod_file_cache

--- cut ---

and this for APR:

_OPTIONS_READ=apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST= THREADS IPV6 DEVRANDOM BDB GDBM LDAP 
MYSQL NDBM PGSQL SQLITE

OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=THREADS
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IPV6
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DEVRANDOM
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=BDB
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LDAP
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=NDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=SQLITE

and I still get the error.

This is the content of the key folder your are scanning on for the check:

Aegir[/usr/local/lib/apr-util-1]

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  57719 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  60214 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1073 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 18 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.so - 
apr_dbd_mysql-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  43272 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  49894 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1005 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 15 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.so - 
apr_dbm_db-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  13722 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11466 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1036 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.so - 
apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  42080 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  47762 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1010 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.so - 
apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  20666 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap-1.so
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  24112 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.a
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1049 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.la
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 13 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.so - 
apr_ldap-1.so


the files you are scanning for are not there as they have a complete 
different name.


apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
apr_dbm_db-1.so

Perhaps that is the cause I can't install the apache22 upgrade?


Olli Hauer:

On 2012-09-08 17:58, Warren Block wrote:

On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Olli Hauer wrote:


On 2012-09-08 16:22, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

Just updating Apache22 (apache-2.2.22_6) and get this error:

Port marked as IGNORE: www/apache22:
  AUTHN_DBD and DBD requires APR-util to have DBD support 
build in.

  Please rebuild APR at last with one DBD backend

The issue is that I did config APR with DBD support.

Currently have installed:
apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1   Apache Portability Library

My /var/db/ports/apr/options file contains:

# Options for apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_OPTIONS_READ=apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
_FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST= THREADS IPV6 DEVRANDOM BDB GDBM LDAP 
MYSQL NDBM PGSQL SQLITE

OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=THREADS
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IPV6
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DEVRANDOM
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=BDB
OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LDAP
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=NDBM
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGSQL
OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=SQLITE

Can someone tell me how what I do wrong here?



Hi Jos,

it's easy, even quickly overseen DBD != BDB

AUTHN_DBD and DBD are SQL modules and this apache options are only 
valid if APR

was build with MYSQL, PGSQL or SQLITE support.

In the past we ask the user to specify if APR was build with SQL 
support,
now the port checks the existence of 
lib/apr-util-1/apr_dbd_(mysql|pgsql|sqlite).so

to see if APR was really build with SQL support.

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dbd.html
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authn_dbd.html


How about adding mention of SQL in the IGNORE message?


I will rewrite the message to
   Please rebuild APR at last with one DBD backend (MYSQL, PGSQL or 
SQLITE)


Hope then is is more clear.



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Re: Apache port

2012-09-09 Thread Olli Hauer
On 2012-09-09 12:58, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
 Sorry, it should work as there is a symbolic link for the one you are 
 searching for...
 Really don't understand why I still get the port is IGNORED line on 
 portupgrade -a
 
 Jos
 
 Jos Chrispijn:
 Olli,

 This is my current setup of Apache:

 === The following configuration options are available for apache22-2.2.22_8:
  AUTH_BASIC=on: mod_auth_basic
  AUTH_DIGEST=on: mod_auth_digest
  AUTHN_ALIAS=on: mod_authn_alias
  AUTHN_ANON=on: mod_authn_anon
  AUTHN_DBD=on: mod_authn_dbd
  AUTHN_DBM=on: mod_authn_dbm
  AUTHN_DEFAULT=on: mod_authn_default
  AUTHN_FILE=on: mod_authn_file
  AUTHZ_DBM=off: mod_authz_dbm
  AUTHZ_DEFAULT=on: mod_authz_default
  AUTHZ_GROUPFILE=on: mod_authz_groupfile
  AUTHZ_HOST=on: mod_authz_host
  AUTHZ_OWNER=on: mod_authz_owner
  AUTHZ_USER=on: mod_authz_user
  AUTHNZ_LDAP=off: mod_authnz_ldap
  LDAP=off: connection pooling, result caching
  DBD=on: Manages SQL database connections
  CACHE=on: mod_cache
  DISK_CACHE=on: mod_disk_cache
  FILE_CACHE=on: mod_file_cache

 --- cut ---

 and this for APR:

 _OPTIONS_READ=apr-1.4.6.1.4.1_1
 _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST= THREADS IPV6 DEVRANDOM BDB GDBM LDAP MYSQL NDBM 
 PGSQL SQLITE
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=THREADS
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IPV6
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DEVRANDOM
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=BDB
 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GDBM
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LDAP
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=MYSQL
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=NDBM
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGSQL
 OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=SQLITE

 and I still get the error.

 This is the content of the key folder your are scanning on for the check:

 Aegir[/usr/local/lib/apr-util-1]

 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  57719 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  60214 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.a
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1073 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.la
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 18 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbd_mysql.so - 
 apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  43272 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db-1.so
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  49894 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.a
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1005 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.la
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 15 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_db.so - 
 apr_dbm_db-1.so
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  13722 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  11466 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.a
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1036 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.la
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_gdbm.so - 
 apr_dbm_gdbm-1.so
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  42080 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  47762 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.a
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1010 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.la
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 17 Sep  9 12:38 apr_dbm_ndbm.so - 
 apr_dbm_ndbm-1.so
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  20666 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap-1.so
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  24112 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.a
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   1049 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.la
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 13 Sep  9 12:38 apr_ldap.so - apr_ldap-1.so

 the files you are scanning for are not there as they have a complete 
 different name.

 apr_dbd_mysql-1.so
 apr_dbm_db-1.so

 Perhaps that is the cause I can't install the apache22 upgrade?


Hi Jos,

I just look into this.

Do you get the error message, or does the build not finish?
 -  apache22-2.2.22_8 AUTHN_DBD and DBD requires APR-util to ...

I really don't know why, maybe the make exists check gives on your machine a 
different result for softlinks back ...

Please test with the following workaround until I find out what went wrong
( Replace IGNOR= with .warning )

===
--- Makefile.modules(revision 303958)
+++ Makefile.modules(working copy)
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@

 .  if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MDBD} || ${PORT_OPTIONS:MAUTHN_DBD}
 .if !exists(${APU_DBD_MYSQL})  !exists(${APU_DBD_PGSQL})  
!exists(${APU_DBD_SQLITE3})
-IGNORE=AUTHN_DBD and DBD requires APR-util to have DBD support build 
in.\
+.warning AUTHN_DBD and DBD requires APR-util to have DBD support build in.\
Please rebuild APR at last with one DBD backend (MYSQL, PGSQL or SQLITE)
 .endif
 .  endif

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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 07:00:24PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
 ...
 I can extract the tar file on 9-STABLE, my locale settings are the
 defaults for root:
 
 # locale
 LANG=
 LC_CTYPE=C
 LC_COLLATE=C
 LC_TIME=C
 LC_NUMERIC=C
 LC_MONETARY=C
 LC_MESSAGES=C
 LC_ALL=
 
 Try unsetting LANG and LC_ALL.
 

I just tried a further experiment, while running head (@r240235): I
issued

tar tvf /usr/ports/distfiles/icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz

The error messages are worded slightly differently:

g1-227(10.0-C)[4] tar -tvf /usr/ports/distfiles/icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz
drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:37 icedtea-web-1.3/
...
drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:36 
icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces can be everywhere 
signed/resources/
tar: Pathname can't be converted from UTF-8 to current locale.
-rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   2421 Aug 27 12:36 
icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces can be everywhere 
signed/resources/NotOnly spaces can kill 
\304\233\305\241\304\215\305\231\305\276 too signed.jnlp
...
drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:36 
icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces can be everywhere/resources/
tar: Pathname can't be converted from UTF-8 to current locale.
-rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   2388 Aug 27 12:36 
icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces can be 
everywhere/resources/NotOnly spaces can kill 
\304\233\305\241\304\215\305\231\305\276 too.jnlp
...
-rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   5756 Aug 27 12:36 icedtea-web-1.3/README
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
g1-227(10.0-C)[5] 


So the issue appears to be how to handle UTF-8 pathnames on the
file system in question.

I'm using a fairly plain UFS with soft updates.

Peace,
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Alexandr Kovalenko
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.

What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
btw, did you know?) ?

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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 3:33 PM, David Wolfskill da...@catwhisker.org wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 07:00:24PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
 ...
 I can extract the tar file on 9-STABLE, my locale settings are the
 defaults for root:

 # locale
 LANG=
 LC_CTYPE=C
 LC_COLLATE=C
 LC_TIME=C
 LC_NUMERIC=C
 LC_MONETARY=C
 LC_MESSAGES=C
 LC_ALL=

 Try unsetting LANG and LC_ALL.
 

 I just tried a further experiment, while running head (@r240235): I
 issued

 tar tvf /usr/ports/distfiles/icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz

 The error messages are worded slightly differently:

 g1-227(10.0-C)[4] tar -tvf /usr/ports/distfiles/icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz
 drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:37 icedtea-web-1.3/
 ...
 drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:36 
 icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces can be everywhere 
 signed/resources/
 tar: Pathname can't be converted from UTF-8 to current locale.
 -rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   2421 Aug 27 12:36 
 icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces can be everywhere 
 signed/resources/NotOnly spaces can kill 
 \304\233\305\241\304\215\305\231\305\276 too signed.jnlp
 ...
 drwxrwxr-x  0 dbhole dbhole  0 Aug 27 12:36 
 icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces can be everywhere/resources/
 tar: Pathname can't be converted from UTF-8 to current locale.
 -rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   2388 Aug 27 12:36 
 icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces can be 
 everywhere/resources/NotOnly spaces can kill 
 \304\233\305\241\304\215\305\231\305\276 too.jnlp
 ...
 -rw-rw-r--  0 dbhole dbhole   5756 Aug 27 12:36 icedtea-web-1.3/README
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
 g1-227(10.0-C)[5]


 So the issue appears to be how to handle UTF-8 pathnames on the
 file system in question.

 I'm using a fairly plain UFS with soft updates.

 Peace,
 david
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See if the the file with a UTF-8 filename gets extracted despite the
error message.

I have three different FreeBSD 9 system, one is ZFS and other two are
UFS. I can do 'make extract patch' on all of them for java/icedtea-web
without an error. They all report the same error though if I manually
view or extract the tar file, the files extract fine despite the error
message.
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

On 09/07/2012 07:36 AM, Beat Gaetzi wrote:


For those reasons by February 28th 2013 the FreeBSD ports tree will
no longer be exported to CVS.


This question is curiosity more than anything else.  What will happen to 
the existing ports cvs.  Will it merely stagnate, or will it be removed?


What I mean by this is if my cvsup-file is

*default host=cvsup11.freebsd.org
*default prefix=/usr/home/library/ctm/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS
*default base=/usr/home/library/ctm/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix
cvs-all

then when I run this in Feb 28, will the ports subdirectory merely be 
unchanged, or will it be deleted in its entirety?

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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 04:44:08PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
$...
  So the issue appears to be how to handle UTF-8 pathnames on the
  file system in question.
 
  I'm using a fairly plain UFS with soft updates.
 ...
 See if the the file with a UTF-8 filename gets extracted despite the
 error message.

Huh; interesting point.  Yes, it appears that they do:

g1-227(8.3-S)[12] ls -Fs icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces\ can\ 
be\ everywhere\ signed/resources/
4 NotOnly spaces can kill ?? too signed.jnlp
4 Spaces can be everywhere1 signed.jnlp
4 Spaces can be everywhere2 signed.jnlp
4 SpacesCanBeEverywhere1signed.jnlp
4 spaces applet Tests signed.html
g1-227(8.3-S)[13] ls -Fs icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces\ can\ 
be\ everywhere/resources/
4 NotOnly spaces can kill ?? too.jnlp
4 Spaces can be everywhere1.jnlp
4 Spaces can be everywhere2.jnlp
4 SpacesCanBeEverywhere1.jnlp
4 spaces applet Tests.html
g1-227(8.3-S)[14] 

(The files with names that display as having '?' in their names would be
the files in question.)

 I have three different FreeBSD 9 system, one is ZFS and other two are
 UFS. I can do 'make extract patch' on all of them for java/icedtea-web
 without an error. They all report the same error though if I manually
 view or extract the tar file, the files extract fine despite the error
 message.

Hmmm.  How do you do that?  :-}  Even trying a simple approach:

g1-227(8.3-S)[1] cd /usr/ports/java/icedtea-web/
g1-227(8.3-S)[2] sudo make
Password:
===  License GPLv2 accepted by the user
===  Found saved configuration for icedtea-web-1.2_2
===  Extracting for icedtea-web-1.3
= SHA256 Checksum OK for icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz.

IMPORTANT: To build IcedTea-Web 1.3, you have to turn on 'ICEDTEA' option
for java/openjdk6 (default).  Otherwise, it will neither build nor work.

tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale.
tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale.
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /common/ports/java/icedtea-web.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /common/ports/java/icedtea-web.
g1-227(8.3-S)[3] 


I *suppose* I could try manually extracting it, then -- using the
observation that the files actually are extracted -- hack the work/.*
files to convince the ports infrastructure that the extraction is
already completed OK, but that's just... wrong.

Thanks for your help so far!

Peace,
david
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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:12 PM, David Wolfskill da...@catwhisker.org wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 04:44:08PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
 $...
  So the issue appears to be how to handle UTF-8 pathnames on the
  file system in question.
 
  I'm using a fairly plain UFS with soft updates.
 ...
 See if the the file with a UTF-8 filename gets extracted despite the
 error message.

 Huh; interesting point.  Yes, it appears that they do:

 g1-227(8.3-S)[12] ls -Fs icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/signed/Spaces\ 
 can\ be\ everywhere\ signed/resources/
 4 NotOnly spaces can kill ?? too signed.jnlp
 4 Spaces can be everywhere1 signed.jnlp
 4 Spaces can be everywhere2 signed.jnlp
 4 SpacesCanBeEverywhere1signed.jnlp
 4 spaces applet Tests signed.html
 g1-227(8.3-S)[13] ls -Fs icedtea-web-1.3/tests/reproducers/simple/Spaces\ 
 can\ be\ everywhere/resources/
 4 NotOnly spaces can kill ?? too.jnlp
 4 Spaces can be everywhere1.jnlp
 4 Spaces can be everywhere2.jnlp
 4 SpacesCanBeEverywhere1.jnlp
 4 spaces applet Tests.html
 g1-227(8.3-S)[14]

 (The files with names that display as having '?' in their names would be
 the files in question.)

 I have three different FreeBSD 9 system, one is ZFS and other two are
 UFS. I can do 'make extract patch' on all of them for java/icedtea-web
 without an error. They all report the same error though if I manually
 view or extract the tar file, the files extract fine despite the error
 message.

 Hmmm.  How do you do that?  :-}  Even trying a simple approach:

 g1-227(8.3-S)[1] cd /usr/ports/java/icedtea-web/
 g1-227(8.3-S)[2] sudo make
 Password:
 ===  License GPLv2 accepted by the user
 ===  Found saved configuration for icedtea-web-1.2_2
 ===  Extracting for icedtea-web-1.3
 = SHA256 Checksum OK for icedtea-web-1.3.tar.gz.

 IMPORTANT: To build IcedTea-Web 1.3, you have to turn on 'ICEDTEA' option
 for java/openjdk6 (default).  Otherwise, it will neither build nor work.

 tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale.
 tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale.
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /common/ports/java/icedtea-web.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /common/ports/java/icedtea-web.
 g1-227(8.3-S)[3]


 I *suppose* I could try manually extracting it, then -- using the
 observation that the files actually are extracted -- hack the work/.*
 files to convince the ports infrastructure that the extraction is
 already completed OK, but that's just... wrong.

 Thanks for your help so far!

 Peace,
 david
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Hmm, you're using sudo(1) and that means you enviroment may not be
completely clean. Log on as root using 'su -l' and see if it makes a
difference.
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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 06:16:20PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
 ...
 Hmm, you're using sudo(1) and that means you enviroment may not be
 completely clean. Log on as root using 'su -l' and see if it makes a
 difference.
 

Well, despite my earlier experiments with LC_ALL  friends, su -
allows the make to complete.

I'll research the environment differences to see if there's anything I
can learn from that.

Thanks again!

Peace,
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Re: apache 2.2.22_6 to _8 fails

2012-09-09 Thread Helmut Schneider
Helmut Schneider wrote:

 Hi Olli,
 
 olli hauer wrote:
 
  On 2012-09-08 14:28, Helmut Schneider wrote:
   ** Detected a package name change: apache (www/apache22) -
   'apache22' (www/apache22)
   ---  Upgrading 'apache-2.2.22_6' to 'apache22-2.2.22_8'
   (www/apache22) ---  Building '/usr/ports/www/apache22' with make
   flags: -DWITH_PROXY -DWITH_PROXY_CONNECT -DWITH_PROXY_FTP
   -DWITH_PROXY_HTTP -DWITH_LDAP -DWITH_AUTHNZ_LDAP -DWITH_BDB
   -DWITH_APR_FROM_PORTS ===  Cleaning for apache22-2.2.22_8
    You must check at least one option in the PROXY multi
   *** Error code 1
   
   The options worked fine up to 2.2.22_6 and I'm not sure how to
   read the error message.
  
  with options NG the WITH... parameters do no longer work.
  If you want to specify them in make.conf you have to do it this way
 
 I'm using pkgtools.conf, removing -DWITH_PROXY seems to do the trick
 (I also removed the typo of DBD and the obsolete
 DWITH_APR_FROM_PORTS, but they are not related).
 
  apache22_SET=PROXY PROXY_CONNECT PROXY_FTP ...
  
  The downside with options NG is if you already have an OPTIONSFILE
  the make.conf parameters will have a lower priority.
 
 Please note this in UPDATING.

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Re: Upgrade java/icedtea-web from 1.2_2 - 1.3 fails: tar: Pathname in pax header can't be converted to current locale

2012-09-09 Thread David Wolfskill
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:34:35AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 06:16:20PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote:
  ...
  Hmm, you're using sudo(1) and that means you enviroment may not be
  completely clean. Log on as root using 'su -l' and see if it makes a
  difference.
  
 
 Well, despite my earlier experiments with LC_ALL  friends, su -
 allows the make to complete.
 
 I'll research the environment differences to see if there's anything I
 can learn from that.
...

OK; I managed to get portmaster to upgrade the port.

I normally perform such upgrades within script(1).  This time, after
invoking script, I issued:

unsetenv LC* LANG

before invoking portmaster, and that worked.

(I noticed that after su -, output of env did not include any of the
LC* variables or LANG.)

There would thus appear to be a functional difference between setting
the above-cited environment variables to default values vs. not having
them set at all.

(And after the upgrade, browsing to http://javatester.org/version.html
with Firefox still shows Java Version: 1.6.0_32 from Sun Microsystems
Inc.)

Peace,
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Alexandr Kovalenko
ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.

 What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
 world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
 btw, did you know?) ?

Yes, I am quite aware of it, but I am merely the messenger. Until
other subversion mirrors are made available in other parts of the
world, only the two in the US are available. I'm sure that will change
in time, but for the moment, only the two US mirrors have been
announced.

For now, if it is not clear which is closer, you can ping to see which
has the faster response. In my case, us-west is about 20 ms away while
us-east is 100. If you have a well connected server in another part of
the world, I assume the project would be happy to have another mirror
made available. Note that the full repository is quite large. There
are clearly security issues, too.
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poudriere building for .

2012-09-09 Thread Alexandr Kovalenko
Hello,

I have a quick question about poudriere and building for HEAD (AKA .
AKA 10.0-CURRENT).

When I created my buildjail, I used . to specify version and method csup.

The funny thing is that now I get (please note . instead of 10.0):

checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.

in all package builds.

Most of packages do not dislike this, but there is at least one, which
does - namely lsof - it fails to detect FreeBSD version.

Could you please advise a solution for this?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Alexandr Kovalenko
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Alexandr Kovalenko
 ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.

 What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
 world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
 btw, did you know?) ?

 Yes, I am quite aware of it, but I am merely the messenger. Until
 other subversion mirrors are made available in other parts of the
 world, only the two in the US are available. I'm sure that will change
 in time, but for the moment, only the two US mirrors have been
 announced.

 For now, if it is not clear which is closer, you can ping to see which
 has the faster response. In my case, us-west is about 20 ms away while
 us-east is 100. If you have a well connected server in another part of
 the world, I assume the project would be happy to have another mirror
 made available. Note that the full repository is quite large. There
 are clearly security issues, too.

JFYI, I'm already running ftp/cvsup.ua.freebsd.org (primary Ukrainian
mirror) for about 8 years.

But the recent changes to policies, which were discussed behind the
closed doors by some group of people in The FreeBSD Project,
effectively makes all efforts, money and so on, which were invested to
support project, unnecessary. Current (semi-official) statements say
that project is going to abandon practice of non-project managed
mirrors and will do everything on it's own.

As for now my mirror serves full CVS[up] repo from SSD, and have full
FTP archive avaliable, which is synced every hour.

You may have read the situation with Australian SVN mirror - when
project officials officially prohibited guys, who set it up to use
*.freebsd.org name for that.

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ftp/cvsup.ua.freebsd.org maintainer.
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet


--- On Fri, 9/7/12, Lars Eighner portsu...@larseighner.com wrote:

 From: Lars Eighner portsu...@larseighner.com
 Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS
 To: Beat Gaetzi b...@freebsd.org
 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Date: Friday, September 7, 2012, 8:00 AM
 On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Beat Gaetzi
 wrote:
 
  The development of FreeBSD ports is done in Subversion
 nowadays.
  For the sake of compatibility a Subversion to CVS
 exporter is
  in place which has some limitations. For CVSup
 mirroring cvsup
  based on Ezm3 is used which breaks regularly especially
 on amd64
  and with Clang and becomes more and more
 unmaintainable.

The svn-book:
...you can edit files at will, but you must tell Subversion about
everything else that you do...

  Empirically, to a newbie, this appears quite confusing.  Are the
files in, say, /usr/ports/devel/boost-libs  owned in some manner by
svn? The extra files I've placed there (automatically generated
copies of work/.PList_flattened..)(etc) are ignored/accidentally erased? Lock 
files are no longer supposed to be placed in the
directory by scripts? 
...
  I had intended to simply restore an older copy of /usr/ports over
the new one, and have the two combined, as it were, but it appears
many unwanted effects (... only certain svn commands from now on?
Procedure to only .svn one of the port categories as can be done
with csup? Which svn commands transfer files from where to where 
etc.?) 
  Perhaps it would be better if I practice on the new ports tree
before restoring over it,  re-restore after practice, etc... 
Or even better, print out the online documentation, print out the
forum svn examples, and spend several weeks practicing for
csup equivalents and procedures... (That is what I am maybe 
wondering.  Has anyone done the same and written it all up in
a more detailed scenario? Which svn command subsets put files
not deeper in .svn at risk? Is there only one .svn or multiple 
ones? Which svn commands should be run just once, and which
routinely? Which to update just one parts of the ports tree?
...
Even commands to copy the ports tree elsewhere with a lesser 
volume of files (no .svn... )  
(Subversion appears more of an administrative tool rather than
an end-user tool; requiring more complex configuration maybe, 
though maybe not if just for the ports tree.  Possible 
configuration files to examine/copy persons may have already
working for user/ports?)

  I'd rather use portsnap only on an older laptop... otherwise
I would defer to it instead (for now anyway, since there is
still time left...)

  BTW in replies to a question on the freebsd-questions list, I
surmise there are many server farm administrators who are
comfortable with csup/cvsup and not yet familiar with svn, and
may also be thrown a learning curve with this change.

  Apologies for asking here, but trying to save many hours (or
even minutes) of
web searching, trial and error, etc...


J. Bouquet


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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeffrey Bouquet
 jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I searched quite a bit upon this announcement to find csup  svn 
 equivalent guides and found little applying to ports...
 hopefully they will appear prior to the changeover?, something
 easily learned?

 Good point. I found the handbook information adequate, but not as easy
 to follow as it might be.
 Guess I'll write one. It's really quite easy and much faster then csup.

 1. Install devel/subversion
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.
 3. Rename (mv) ports/distfiles and ports/packages out of /usr/ports
 4. rm -r /usr/ports/*
 5. svn co http://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
OR
svn co http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
Ports will now be checked out of the repository and written to /usr/ports
 6. make -f /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex
 7. Move ports/distfiles and ports/packages back into /usr/ports. Since
 these directories are not in the repository, they will be ignored by
 updates.
 7. Update ports as needed with 'svn up /usr/ports' and 'make -f
 /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex'
This step does the equivalent of csup.
 8. Use the Subversion manual from http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ to
 learn how to other things with svn. Of particular interest is 'svn
 info /usr/ports and setting up the .subversion file to do things like
 ignore some directories.
 If you add private ports to /usr/ports, they will be ignored by svn as
 they don't exist in the repository.

 If anyone has suggestions on other things that belong in this list,
 please let me know.

I submitted some changes for the Handbook, but they really only covered
the things that I thought were now Wrong. Your descriptions are
certainly of higher quality.

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Re: poudriere building for .

2012-09-09 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 07:48:37PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a quick question about poudriere and building for HEAD (AKA .
 AKA 10.0-CURRENT).
 
 When I created my buildjail, I used . to specify version and method csup.
 
 The funny thing is that now I get (please note . instead of 10.0):
 
 checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
 
 in all package builds.
 
 Most of packages do not dislike this, but there is at least one, which
 does - namely lsof - it fails to detect FreeBSD version.
 
 Could you please advise a solution for this?

This should normally have been fixed in 2.0 and -devel, but it would needs you
to destroy/recreate your jail.

Can you tell me which version of poudriere you were using when creating your
jail?

Another way and simpler way to deal with package building on HEAD, is to use the
new allbsd method, which will fetch the latest current sets build by allbsd.org
people.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: poudriere building for .

2012-09-09 Thread Alexandr Kovalenko
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 07:48:37PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
 I have a quick question about poudriere and building for HEAD (AKA .
 AKA 10.0-CURRENT).

 When I created my buildjail, I used . to specify version and method csup.

 The funny thing is that now I get (please note . instead of 10.0):

 checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.

 in all package builds.

 Most of packages do not dislike this, but there is at least one, which
 does - namely lsof - it fails to detect FreeBSD version.

 Could you please advise a solution for this?

 This should normally have been fixed in 2.0 and -devel, but it would needs 
 you
 to destroy/recreate your jail.

 Can you tell me which version of poudriere you were using when creating your
 jail?

poudriere-1.5.4_1   Port build and test system

 Another way and simpler way to deal with package building on HEAD, is to use 
 the
 new allbsd method, which will fetch the latest current sets build by 
 allbsd.org
 people.

Not quite sure I understand what you are talking about, could you,
please, be more precise? :)

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Re: poudriere building for .

2012-09-09 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 11:25:01PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 07:48:37PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
  I have a quick question about poudriere and building for HEAD (AKA .
  AKA 10.0-CURRENT).
 
  When I created my buildjail, I used . to specify version and method 
  csup.
 
  The funny thing is that now I get (please note . instead of 10.0):
 
  checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
  checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
 
  in all package builds.
 
  Most of packages do not dislike this, but there is at least one, which
  does - namely lsof - it fails to detect FreeBSD version.
 
  Could you please advise a solution for this?
 
  This should normally have been fixed in 2.0 and -devel, but it would 
  needs you
  to destroy/recreate your jail.
 
  Can you tell me which version of poudriere you were using when creating your
  jail?
 
 poudriere-1.5.4_1   Port build and test system

Using poudriere 2.0 should help on this :) (but need destroy/create the jail)
 
  Another way and simpler way to deal with package building on HEAD, is to 
  use the
  new allbsd method, which will fetch the latest current sets build by 
  allbsd.org
  people.
 
 Not quite sure I understand what you are talking about, could you,
 please, be more precise? :)

https://www.allbsd.org/ is providing recent snapshots sets, in 2.0 we provide a
method called allbsd which will feth the prebuilt sets from allbsd (including
for head) which will allow you to have a 10.0 jail without compiling :)

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Lowell Gilbert
freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
 Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeffrey Bouquet
 jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I searched quite a bit upon this announcement to find csup  svn 
 equivalent guides and found little applying to ports...
 hopefully they will appear prior to the changeover?, something
 easily learned?

 Good point. I found the handbook information adequate, but not as easy
 to follow as it might be.
 Guess I'll write one. It's really quite easy and much faster then csup.

 1. Install devel/subversion
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.
 3. Rename (mv) ports/distfiles and ports/packages out of /usr/ports
 4. rm -r /usr/ports/*
 5. svn co http://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
OR
svn co http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
Ports will now be checked out of the repository and written to /usr/ports
 6. make -f /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex
 7. Move ports/distfiles and ports/packages back into /usr/ports. Since
 these directories are not in the repository, they will be ignored by
 updates.
 7. Update ports as needed with 'svn up /usr/ports' and 'make -f
 /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex'
This step does the equivalent of csup.
 8. Use the Subversion manual from http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ to
 learn how to other things with svn. Of particular interest is 'svn
 info /usr/ports and setting up the .subversion file to do things like
 ignore some directories.
 If you add private ports to /usr/ports, they will be ignored by svn as
 they don't exist in the repository.

 If anyone has suggestions on other things that belong in this list,
 please let me know.

 I submitted some changes for the Handbook, but they really only covered
 the things that I thought were now Wrong. Your descriptions are
 certainly of higher quality.

But I am still learning to count without a computer to help. 1, 2, 3,
4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8??? **Sigh**

Oh, well, I think everyone knows what I meant.
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E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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Re: poudriere building for .

2012-09-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 11:25:01PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 07:48:37PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote:
  I have a quick question about poudriere and building for HEAD (AKA .
  AKA 10.0-CURRENT).
 
  When I created my buildjail, I used . to specify version and method 
  csup.
 
  The funny thing is that now I get (please note . instead of 10.0):
 
  checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
  checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd.
 
  in all package builds.
 
  Most of packages do not dislike this, but there is at least one, which
  does - namely lsof - it fails to detect FreeBSD version.
 
  Could you please advise a solution for this?
 
  This should normally have been fixed in 2.0 and -devel, but it would 
  needs you
  to destroy/recreate your jail.
 
  Can you tell me which version of poudriere you were using when creating 
  your
  jail?

 poudriere-1.5.4_1   Port build and test system

 Using poudriere 2.0 should help on this :) (but need destroy/create the jail)

  Another way and simpler way to deal with package building on HEAD, is to 
  use the
  new allbsd method, which will fetch the latest current sets build by 
  allbsd.org
  people.

 Not quite sure I understand what you are talking about, could you,
 please, be more precise? :)

 https://www.allbsd.org/ is providing recent snapshots sets, in 2.0 we provide 
 a
 method called allbsd which will feth the prebuilt sets from allbsd (including
 for head) which will allow you to have a 10.0 jail without compiling :)

One of the ugliest web pages I've seen in a long time! Great tool! (I
never much cared about eye candy.)
I hope this gets more publicity as it looks extremely useful, though I
need to look into security issues a bit.
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Eitan Adler
On 9 September 2012 17:30, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Lowell Gilbert
 freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
 Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeffrey Bouquet
 jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I searched quite a bit upon this announcement to find csup  svn 
 equivalent guides and found little applying to ports...
 hopefully they will appear prior to the changeover?, something
 easily learned?

 Good point. I found the handbook information adequate, but not as easy
 to follow as it might be.
 Guess I'll write one. It's really quite easy and much faster then csup.

 1. Install devel/subversion
 2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
 pick the one closer to you.
 3. Rename (mv) ports/distfiles and ports/packages out of /usr/ports
 4. rm -r /usr/ports/*
 5. svn co http://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
OR
svn co http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
Ports will now be checked out of the repository and written to /usr/ports
 6. make -f /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex
 7. Move ports/distfiles and ports/packages back into /usr/ports. Since
 these directories are not in the repository, they will be ignored by
 updates.
 7. Update ports as needed with 'svn up /usr/ports' and 'make -f
 /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex'
This step does the equivalent of csup.
 8. Use the Subversion manual from http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ to
 learn how to other things with svn. Of particular interest is 'svn
 info /usr/ports and setting up the .subversion file to do things like
 ignore some directories.
 If you add private ports to /usr/ports, they will be ignored by svn as
 they don't exist in the repository.

 If anyone has suggestions on other things that belong in this list,
 please let me know.

 I submitted some changes for the Handbook, but they really only covered
 the things that I thought were now Wrong. Your descriptions are
 certainly of higher quality.

 But I am still learning to count without a computer to help. 1, 2, 3,
 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8??? **Sigh**

I think you messed up because you didn't start from the basics:

0, 1, 2, 3 ...


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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet


--- On Sun, 9/9/12, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 From: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com
 Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS
 To: Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
 Cc: Lowell Gilbert freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org, 
 freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 2:41 PM
 On 9 September 2012 17:30, Kevin
 Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Lowell Gilbert
  freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org
 wrote:
  Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
 writes:
 
  On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeffrey
 Bouquet
  jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
    I searched quite a bit
 upon this announcement to find csup  svn equivalent
 guides and found little applying to ports...
  hopefully they will appear prior to the
 changeover?, something
  easily learned?
 
  Good point. I found the handbook information
 adequate, but not as easy
  to follow as it might be.
  Guess I'll write one. It's really quite easy
 and much faster then csup.
 
  1. Install devel/subversion
  2. Select US east coast or US west as your
 server. Pick at random or
  pick the one closer to you.
  3. Rename (mv) ports/distfiles and
 ports/packages out of /usr/ports
  4. rm -r /usr/ports/*
  5. svn co http://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
     OR
     svn co http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
     Ports will now be checked out of
 the repository and written to /usr/ports
  6. make -f /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex
  7. Move ports/distfiles and ports/packages back
 into /usr/ports. Since
  these directories are not in the repository,
 they will be ignored by
  updates.
  7. Update ports as needed with 'svn up
 /usr/ports' and 'make -f
  /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex'
     This step does the equivalent of
 csup.
  8. Use the Subversion manual from http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ to
  learn how to other things with svn. Of
 particular interest is 'svn
  info /usr/ports and setting up the .subversion
 file to do things like
  ignore some directories.
  If you add private ports to /usr/ports, they
 will be ignored by svn as
  they don't exist in the repository.
 
  If anyone has suggestions on other things that
 belong in this list,
  please let me know.
 
  I submitted some changes for the Handbook, but they
 really only covered
  the things that I thought were now Wrong. Your
 descriptions are
  certainly of higher quality.
 
  But I am still learning to count without a computer to
 help. 1, 2, 3,
  4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8??? **Sigh**
 
 I think you messed up because you didn't start from the
 basics:
 
 0, 1, 2, 3 ...
 
 
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Initial attempts with svn[1] suggest one may skip step 4 (making the
svn command more like csup), if that is the case, anyone know of
a workaround (easier method) than restoring /usr/ports/distfiles 
and /usr/ports/packages from backup? Or skipping those steps
altogether, svn does extra/unwanted work or?   
[1] on only x11-themes, for example

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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet


--- On Sun, 9/9/12, Jeffrey Bouquet jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Jeffrey Bouquet jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS
 To: Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com
 Cc: Lowell Gilbert freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org, 
 freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 3:47 PM
 
 
 --- On Sun, 9/9/12, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com
  Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS
  To: Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  Cc: Lowell Gilbert freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org,
 freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
  Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 2:41 PM
  On 9 September 2012 17:30, Kevin
  Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Lowell Gilbert
   freebsd-ports-lo...@be-well.ilk.org
  wrote:
   Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  writes:
  
   On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Jeffrey
  Bouquet
   jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
     I searched quite a bit
  upon this announcement to find csup  svn
 equivalent
  guides and found little applying to ports...
   hopefully they will appear prior to
 the
  changeover?, something
   easily learned?
  
   Good point. I found the handbook
 information
  adequate, but not as easy
   to follow as it might be.
   Guess I'll write one. It's really quite
 easy
  and much faster then csup.
  
   1. Install devel/subversion
   2. Select US east coast or US west as
 your
  server. Pick at random or
   pick the one closer to you.
   3. Rename (mv) ports/distfiles and
  ports/packages out of /usr/ports
   4. rm -r /usr/ports/*
   5. svn co http://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
      OR
      svn co http://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
      Ports will now be checked out of
  the repository and written to /usr/ports
   6. make -f /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex
   7. Move ports/distfiles and ports/packages
 back
  into /usr/ports. Since
   these directories are not in the
 repository,
  they will be ignored by
   updates.
   7. Update ports as needed with 'svn up
  /usr/ports' and 'make -f
   /usr/ports/Makefile fetchindex'
      This step does the equivalent of
  csup.
   8. Use the Subversion manual from http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ to
   learn how to other things with svn. Of
  particular interest is 'svn
   info /usr/ports and setting up the
 .subversion
  file to do things like
   ignore some directories.
   If you add private ports to /usr/ports,
 they
  will be ignored by svn as
   they don't exist in the repository.
  
   If anyone has suggestions on other things
 that
  belong in this list,
   please let me know.
  
   I submitted some changes for the Handbook, but
 they
  really only covered
   the things that I thought were now Wrong.
 Your
  descriptions are
   certainly of higher quality.
  
   But I am still learning to count without a
 computer to
  help. 1, 2, 3,
   4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8??? **Sigh**
  
  I think you messed up because you didn't start from
 the
  basics:
  
  0, 1, 2, 3 ...
  
  
  -- 
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 Initial attempts with svn[1] suggest one may skip step 4
 (making the
 svn command more like csup), if that is the case, anyone
 know of
 a workaround (easier method) than restoring
 /usr/ports/distfiles 
 and /usr/ports/packages from backup? Or skipping those
 steps
 altogether, svn does extra/unwanted work
 or?   
 [1] on only x11-themes, for example
 
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Sorry to reply to my own email.  These CLI worked...
mv /usr/ports/distfiles /usr/distfiles
mv /usr/ports/packages /usr/packages...
(Haven't gotten to the svn part yet...)

J. Bouquet

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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:26:06 +0300
Alexandr Kovalenko ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random or
  pick the one closer to you.
 
 What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
 world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
 btw, did you know?) ?
 
Planet? What happened to the disk?

Yes, ignorance rules.

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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:35:21 -0700
Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Alexandr Kovalenko
 ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random
  or pick the one closer to you.
 
  What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
  world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
  btw, did you know?) ?
 
 Yes, I am quite aware of it, but I am merely the messenger. Until
 other subversion mirrors are made available in other parts of the
 world, only the two in the US are available. I'm sure that will change
 in time, but for the moment, only the two US mirrors have been
 announced.
 
why stop a system then when the replacement is not up and running? Do
you want to kill the infrastructure to distribute FreeBSD?

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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:54:06 +0300
Alexandr Kovalenko ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Alexandr Kovalenko
  ne...@nevermind.kiev.ua wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  2. Select US east coast or US west as your server. Pick at random
  or pick the one closer to you.
 
  What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
  world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
  btw, did you know?) ?
 
  Yes, I am quite aware of it, but I am merely the messenger. Until
  other subversion mirrors are made available in other parts of the
  world, only the two in the US are available. I'm sure that will
  change in time, but for the moment, only the two US mirrors have
  been announced.
 
  For now, if it is not clear which is closer, you can ping to see
  which has the faster response. In my case, us-west is about 20 ms
  away while us-east is 100. If you have a well connected server in
  another part of the world, I assume the project would be happy to
  have another mirror made available. Note that the full repository
  is quite large. There are clearly security issues, too.
 
 JFYI, I'm already running ftp/cvsup.ua.freebsd.org (primary Ukrainian
 mirror) for about 8 years.
 
 But the recent changes to policies, which were discussed behind the
 closed doors by some group of people in The FreeBSD Project,
 effectively makes all efforts, money and so on, which were invested to
 support project, unnecessary. Current (semi-official) statements say
 that project is going to abandon practice of non-project managed
 mirrors and will do everything on it's own.
 
 As for now my mirror serves full CVS[up] repo from SSD, and have full
 FTP archive avaliable, which is synced every hour.
 
 You may have read the situation with Australian SVN mirror - when
 project officials officially prohibited guys, who set it up to use
 *.freebsd.org name for that.
 

this all sounds like a inside job to kill FreeBSD.

I just wrote the other message saying that it seems to me that the huge
user base outside the USA is ignored.

What will happen to the project when all non-US servers cannot be used
anymore?

Erich
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Re: [HEADS-UP] Announcing the end of port CVS

2012-09-09 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - 
From: Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com



 What if neither is close to me (there are other countries in the
 world, not only USA, some are even on the other side of the planet,
 btw, did you know?) ?

Yes, I am quite aware of it, but I am merely the messenger. Until
other subversion mirrors are made available in other parts of the
world, only the two in the US are available. I'm sure that will change
in time, but for the moment, only the two US mirrors have been
announced.


why stop a system then when the replacement is not up and running? Do
you want to kill the infrastructure to distribute FreeBSD?


Looking at it from the practical side if the replacement architecture
isn't ready yet then it sounds like this needs to be delayed until
such a time that it is.

Only having two mirrors and both in the US is not really practical,
many of us, in other parts of the globe, will suffer from stupidly
long update times; BDP would really have a bad effect on updates,
and that's assuming the two servers don't just die under the load of
everyone using them.

So again please consider delaying the switch over until a decent mirror
set is available, in order to prevent serious amounts of frustration
from your user base.

   Regards
   Steve


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FreeBSD Port: net-p2p/bitcoin

2012-09-09 Thread Daniel Morante
I'm new to creating/maintain ports., I created a simple startup script 
and conf file for this port.  I am wondering how I can submit my 
improvements?

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Re: FreeBSD Port: net-p2p/bitcoin

2012-09-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Daniel Morante dan...@morante.net wrote:
 I'm new to creating/maintain ports., I created a simple startup script and
 conf file for this port.  I am wondering how I can submit my improvements?

Have you looked at the Porter's Handbook?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook
It describes the process in some detail. At the moment the port has no
maintainer. If you want to take care of it, feel free to request
maintainership on this list.
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R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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