Installing non-ports software into /usr/local

2012-09-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
Hi

I am having an issue with mutt 1.5.21. I have set up different colour schemes, 
etc. as people do. Anyway, I reinstalled it 2 days ago using the ports system, 
because I wanted to link mutt to the ncurses port rather than the system 
ncurses installation. After soing non of my colours show, only those that are 
set from within my terminal emulator which is urxvt. Initially, I had a problem 
during make(1) which related to the iconv library. I have iconv set as an 
option in my kernel configuration. the error suggested something about using 
libiconv instead. 

Anyway, I managed to overcome that and build it and istall it again but without 
colour. I'm wondering if I could/should build it my self from source and 
install it into /usr/local to see if that makes any difference. Would doing 
that cause problems for the ports system?

Any comments and advice are welcome. Best wishes, Jamie
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Re: Installing non-ports software into /usr/local

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 September 2012 11:16, Jamie Paul Griffin ja...@kode5.net wrote:
 Hi

 I am having an issue with mutt 1.5.21. I have set up different colour 
 schemes, etc. as people do. Anyway, I reinstalled it 2 days ago using the 
 ports system, because I wanted to link mutt to the ncurses port rather than 
 the system ncurses installation. After soing non of my colours show, only 
 those that are set from within my terminal emulator which is urxvt. 
 Initially, I had a problem during make(1) which related to the iconv library. 
 I have iconv set as an option in my kernel configuration. the error suggested 
 something about using libiconv instead.

 Anyway, I managed to overcome that and build it and istall it again but 
 without colour. I'm wondering if I could/should build it my self from source 
 and install it into /usr/local to see if that makes any difference. Would 
 doing that cause problems for the ports system?

 Any comments and advice are welcome. Best wishes, Jamie

As long as you don't install it from the port, which would overwrite
your version, there would be no trouble with this.

If you come up with a solution, please send a PR in which the
maintainer will I'm sure be glad to look at :)

Chris
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Re: CFT: x11/nvidia-driver major update to 304.xx series

2012-09-30 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:21:16 -0400 (EDT)
Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. articulated:

 I mentioned in my first post that I already tried rebuilding
 everything on up.

From your original post:

quote
Tried rebuilding a bunch of other things, but didn't help.
/quote

The word bunch != build or run dependencies in my vocabulary.
Nor does it indicate, or at least not to me anyway, that you
actually rebuilt all required run or build dependencies. Sorry about
the misunderstanding. I'll leave you to figure out the problem yourself.

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Re: huge distfiles policy

2012-09-30 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:15:01 -0700
Kevin Oberman articulated:

 CDROMs are not getting bigger, but the size of disks just continue to
 increase.

However, DVD's can easily handle a paltry 1.4GB. All modern systems
come with DVD's so perhaps it is time to embrace progress and move
forward with our thinking and not chain ourselves to the past.

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Re: Problems submitting patch containing UTF-8 characters

2012-09-30 Thread Michael Gmelin


On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 05:08:03 +0200
Michael Gmelin free...@grem.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I recently ran into a problem submitting a PR containing UTF-8
 characters, they ended up garbled, so the maintainer couldn't apply
 the patch cleanly.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171645
 
 The characters included were 0xe4 0xb8 0xad and 0xe5 0x9b 0xbd (two
 three byte characters). The code affected is about testing utf-8, so
 the characters are required. And even if not, patching them away would
 require stating them as part of the patch.
 
 The original e-mail was created using porttools and therefore had no
 character set specification, which usually shouldn't be a problem. The
 patch was just inline as part of the body.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171645getpatch=1
 
 The character sequence had been recoded to
 0xc3 0xa4 0xc2 0xb8 0xc2 0xad 0xc3 0xa5 0xc2 0x9b 0xc2 0xbd
 
 It seems like it had been interpreted as latin1 on receipt and then
 reencoded as utf-8:
 0xe4 = 0xc3 0xa4
 0xb8 = 0xc2 0xb8
 0xad = 0xc2 0xad
 0xe5 = 0xc3 0xa5
 0x9b = 0xc2 0x9b
 0xbd = 0xc2 0xbd
 
 Which is obviously not what should happen. The recipient shouldn't
 make any assumptions about the character set used.
 
 The next attempt was sending the patch as a bug-followup through a
 graphical MUA. The patch was attached and had been encoded as
 quoted-printable (no specific charset specification):
 
 +-configPath =3D u./config/=E4=B8=AD=E5=9B=BD_client.config
 ++configPath =3D
 u./config/=E4=B8=AD=E5=9B=BD_client.config.encode(utf-8=)
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171645getpatch=2
 
 Unfortunately the results are the same. I did not try forcing a
 charset by manually modifying the email (not sure if this will work,
 I'm willing to test, but I don't want to further litter that PR).
 
 At this point I figured, that sending the patch in gzipped format
 might help. Said and done, the patch shows up as base64 in the PR.
 When copy and pasting and decoding the base64 text, the resulting .gz
 can be decompressed correctly and the content is what I expected. When
 clicking the download link though:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=171645getpatch=3
 
 The resulting .gz file has the correct file size, but is corrupted.
 Checking it using the hex editor it looks like it has been reencoded
 as utf-8 (and then truncated at the expected file size):
 
 Hex of the original file (first 16 bytes):
 1f 8b 08 08 ad 79 65 50  00 03 70 79 32 37 2d 49
 
 Hex of the file downloaded by using the link:
 1f c2 8b 08 08 c2 ad 79  65 50 00 03 70 79 32 37
 
 As you can see, all non 7bit characters have been utf-8 encoded, which
 is pretty suboptimal in a binary file.
 
 0x8b = 0xc2 0x8b
 0xad = 0xc2 0xad
 ...
 
 As a result the truncated and utf-8 encoded gzip file cannot be
 decompressed.
 
 I'm relatively certain that this has worked at some point in the past.
 
 Ideas anyone?
 
 Thanks,
 

By the way, the two three byte sequences mean
China, see also http://goo.gl/4muUF

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Re: Problems submitting patch containing UTF-8 characters

2012-09-30 Thread Michael Gmelin


On 30 Sep 2012, at 16:19, Shaun Amott sh...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 05:08:03AM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote:
 I recently ran into a problem submitting a PR containing UTF-8
 characters, they ended up garbled, so the maintainer couldn't apply the
 patch cleanly.
 
 GNATS, unfortunately, records no information about character encoding.
 To make matters worse, it actually removes many headers from e-mail
 replies, meaning query-pr.cgi can usually only work on guesses and
 assumptions.
 
 Headers are however preserved inside MIME parts, and if there are any of
 these headers, they are used; but in this case your MUA hasn't included
 encoding information here.
 
 Shaun
 
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 of little minds. - Ralph Waldo Emerson

The question remains though, why is it trying to re-encode characters as UTF8 
when it just received what should be 8bit ASCII to it (passing it through 
transparently should work)? Especially in case of a binary attachment (which it 
shows correctly in base64 encoded form but tries to UTF-8 encode on download). 
To me this looks like a (web server?) configuration 
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Re: huge distfiles policy

2012-09-30 Thread Romain Tartière
Hi!

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:17:03AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 My second concern was discussed when Dominic Fandrey called for testing this
 port: at least 2 people have been working on texlive with different approach:
 hrs and romain.
 
 In particular Romain and I discussed on merging texlive to the ports tree 
 based
 on http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/ he has been contacted some 
 company
 to mirror the splitted distfiles for us, and was suppose to resumer his work 
 on
 this when back from vacations which should be the case now given that he has
 done some commit last week :D
 
 I CCed both hrs and romain so they can give their opinion and the status of
 their work.

Yes, after 2 months away, I am back :-)

While I was away,
  - I received access to a jail for hosting versionned distfiles;
  - I received a mail from hrs@ where he exposes a migration plan to
TeX Live and asked for comments / suggestions.

I replied to hrs@ and told him I would be happy to help, but have no
feedback yet.

Regarding the mirror of versionned distfiles, I have everything to set
it up I think, and I just have to take some time to hack something that
do the right thing and use it in my ports.  However, since there are
some boring flaws in the updating infrastructure, I postponed this,
thinking that an answer from hrs@ would have lead to working on funnier
things (with a better infrastructure).  While I have no news, I may
however setup the repository, it won't hurt I guess.

Best regards,
Romain
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Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 488, Issue 9

2012-09-30 Thread Boniek
GIMP 2.8 is new version for installer with gratulation that is very easy ,
first deinstall png 1.4.x dependecy of graphic,kde,firefox,etc.. and
 muches modules.. next install GIMP 2.8 more png-1.5
and then finish



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 Today's Topics:

1. huge distfiles policy (? ?)
2. graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
   covered version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8? (O. Hartmann)
3. Re: graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
   covered   version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8?
   (Heino Tiedemann)
4. Re: graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
   covered version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8?
   (Ruslan Mahmatkhanov)
5. Re: huge distfiles policy (Eitan Adler)
6. Re: Wanted ports razor-qt (Cpet Services)
7. Re: graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
   covered version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8? (O. Hartmann)
8. Re: Question about postgresql 9 and pg_upgrade (Axel Rau)
9. Re: graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
   covered   version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8?
   (Heino Tiedemann)
   10. Re: huge distfiles policy (Chris Rees)
   11. Re: Question about postgresql 9 and pg_upgrade (Palle Girgensohn)
   12. Re: huge distfiles policy (Kevin Oberman)
   13. Re: huge distfiles policy (Baptiste Daroussin)
   14. Re: CFT: x11/nvidia-driver major update to 304.xx series
   (Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.)
   15. Problems submitting patch containing UTF-8 characters
   (Michael Gmelin)
   16. Installing non-ports software into /usr/local (Jamie Paul Griffin)
   17. Re: Installing non-ports software into /usr/local (Chris Rees)
   18. Re: CFT: x11/nvidia-driver major update to 304.xx series (Jerry)
   19. Re: huge distfiles policy (Jerry)


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 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:22:36 +0400
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 Hi All,

 I'm about to commit print/texlive ports (PR/171571). One of it's ports
 (print/texlive-texmf) has size approx. 1.4 Gb.

 What is the current policy upon huge ports? Should I restrict someting
 to not build at, say, pointyhat? Something else?

 Thanks!
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 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:44:24 +0200
 From: O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de
 Subject: graphics/gimp: What are the stoppers moving from port's
 covered version 2.6 to recent and modern version 2.8?
 To: Ports FreeBSD freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 50670948.9040...@zedat.fu-berlin.de
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15

 I'm wondering why FreeBSD ports takes so long to update quite oldish
 gimp-2.6 to gimp-2.8. Does anyone know what the stoppers are and where
 solutions needed?

 Some of the prerequisites for GIMP 2.8 are compiling well (as isolated
 packages, not in combination with gimp 2.8), like graphics/gegel (0.2.0)
 or x11/bab; 0.1.10 (port has still 0.1.6).

 Oliver

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 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:

  I'm wondering why FreeBSD ports takes so long to update quite oldish
  gimp-2.6 to gimp-2.8. Does anyone know what the stoppers are and where
  solutions needed?

 Mee too. gimp 2.8 is from march(!) 2012 - now it is olmost october und
 nothing happened..

 This - and sometime the old graphics/rawtherapee port - makes FreeBSD
 a litle unusable for foto-editing


 

mail/maildrop-2.6.0's maildirmake

2012-09-30 Thread andrew clarke
I just discovered the maildirmake command has been inexplicably renamed
maildrop-maildirmake between maildrop-2.5.5 and maildrop-2.6.0, which
broke my maildrop rules. Maybe this should go into /usr/ports/UPDATING?

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How can I know popularity of ports?

2012-09-30 Thread meta
Is there any ways to know how popular a port is? For example, Debian
Popularity Contest http://popcon.debian.org/ tells us usage of
packages. Does FreeBSD Ports Collection have similar work to popcon?

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Re: How can I know popularity of ports?

2012-09-30 Thread Cpet Services
Not that I know of.

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 Is there any ways to know how popular a port is? For example, Debian
 Popularity Contest http://popcon.debian.org/ tells us usage of
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Re: How can I know popularity of ports?

2012-09-30 Thread Freddie Cash
Bsdstats port does something similar. It's opt-in, so the stats are heavily
selection biased (similar to popcon).
On Sep 30, 2012 9:49 PM, meta m...@vmeta.jp wrote:

 Is there any ways to know how popular a port is? For example, Debian
 Popularity Contest http://popcon.debian.org/ tells us usage of
 packages. Does FreeBSD Ports Collection have similar work to popcon?

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Re: How can I know popularity of ports?

2012-09-30 Thread Cpet Services
Isn't that for OS usage rather ports ?

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bsdstats port does something similar. It's opt-in, so the stats are heavily
 selection biased (similar to popcon).
 On Sep 30, 2012 9:49 PM, meta m...@vmeta.jp wrote:

  Is there any ways to know how popular a port is? For example, Debian
  Popularity Contest http://popcon.debian.org/ tells us usage of
  packages. Does FreeBSD Ports Collection have similar work to popcon?
 
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Re: How can I know popularity of ports?

2012-09-30 Thread Cpet Services
Well then I stand corrected

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Cpet Services cpetserv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Isn't that for OS usage rather ports ?


 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bsdstats port does something similar. It's opt-in, so the stats are
 heavily
 selection biased (similar to popcon).
 On Sep 30, 2012 9:49 PM, meta m...@vmeta.jp wrote:

  Is there any ways to know how popular a port is? For example, Debian
  Popularity Contest http://popcon.debian.org/ tells us usage of
  packages. Does FreeBSD Ports Collection have similar work to popcon?
 
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