Re: New version of TeX?

2013-02-16 Thread Dominic Fandrey
On 16/02/2013 18:31, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 6 February 2013 13:50, Nathan Whitehorn  wrote:
>> On 02/05/13 21:01, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2013 21:08, Boris Samorodov wrote:
 04.02.2013 10:21, Dominic Fandrey пишет:
> On 04/02/2013 02:04, Danilo Egea wrote:
>> Well, there is this project http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/171571

 I use the patch from this PR together with the attached diff
 and portmaster seems to DTRT with dependencies.
>>>
>>> Seeing that someone else actually uses it, I just attached a little
>>> update fixing a problem I discovered only a couple of days ago. I
>>> recommend you to install texlive-base again.
>>>
>>> Also I think it would be nice if you attached your patches to the PR.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>> Is there any chance this could be committed now pending a longer-term
>> rearchitecture of the TeX stuff? I just installed it on three machines
>> (thanks!) with no trouble at all and everything is working perfectly.
>> Waiting for some long-term solution seems to be making the perfect the
>> enemy of the good -- and this Friday will mark 8 years since the last
>> teTeX update.
> 
> I would very much like to put Dominic's version in (for no particular
> reason other than simplicity, and it was the first I looked at-- I
> can't see any major advantage of one over the other).

It would be nice to have it, however it's not yet in a state to
/replace/ teTeX. So far it's only an alternative. I'd still have to
make a real conflicts test and take care of the most common teTeX
depending ports in a way that doesn't cause the entire texlive-texmf
to be pulled in as a dependency.

I won't be able to work on this sooner than 1 month from now.

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Re: When was the last ports tree that worked with RELENG_6?

2013-02-16 Thread Darren Pilgrim

On 2013-02-16 08:06, Chris Rees wrote:

I'm pretty certain that ports on 6.X was broken with OPTIONSng
(r297660), but I seem to remember that other compatibility was ripped
out before then; perhaps Mark can clarify.

r259629 specifically talks about removing 6.3 shims, but that is way before.


259629 is long before ports trees I know work and a quick read of the 
commit says it's about 6.3-R and older only.



I think you may have some luck installing an up to date make(1) and
dialog(1) (or set NO_DIALOG=yes in make.conf) from stable/9 or
similar; many of the problems on 6 are caused by missing variable
modifiers.


I'll try this, thanks.  Wisdom gained to follow.
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Re: New version of TeX?

2013-02-16 Thread Hiroki Sato
Chris Rees  wrote
  in :

cr> On 6 February 2013 13:50, Nathan Whitehorn  wrote:
cr> > On 02/05/13 21:01, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
cr> >> On 04/02/2013 21:08, Boris Samorodov wrote:
cr> >>> 04.02.2013 10:21, Dominic Fandrey пишет:
cr>  On 04/02/2013 02:04, Danilo Egea wrote:
cr> > Well, there is this project http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/
cr> 
cr>  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/171571
cr> >>>
cr> >>> I use the patch from this PR together with the attached diff
cr> >>> and portmaster seems to DTRT with dependencies.
cr> >>
cr> >> Seeing that someone else actually uses it, I just attached a little
cr> >> update fixing a problem I discovered only a couple of days ago. I
cr> >> recommend you to install texlive-base again.
cr> >>
cr> >> Also I think it would be nice if you attached your patches to the PR.
cr> >>
cr> >> Regards
cr> >>
cr> >
cr> > Is there any chance this could be committed now pending a longer-term
cr> > rearchitecture of the TeX stuff? I just installed it on three machines
cr> > (thanks!) with no trouble at all and everything is working perfectly.
cr> > Waiting for some long-term solution seems to be making the perfect the
cr> > enemy of the good -- and this Friday will mark 8 years since the last
cr> > teTeX update.
cr> 
cr> I would very much like to put Dominic's version in (for no particular
cr> reason other than simplicity, and it was the first I looked at-- I
cr> can't see any major advantage of one over the other).
cr> 
cr> Hiroki-san, can we please move this forward?  I'm happy to test and
cr> commit this one.  If the worst comes to the worst, we could have
cr> alternative TeXLive ports accompanied by a USE_LATEX knob and
cr> bsd.latex.mk

 I will start to commit a bunch of ports based on
 texlive-20120701-source in this week.  At first they are several big
 ports (much like Dominic's one), then will be split into smaller ones
 to support the existing TeX-related packages, and print/teTeX* will
 be removed eventually.

-- Hiroki


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Re: When was the last ports tree that worked with RELENG_6?

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 Feb 2013 19:22,  wrote:
>
> Darren Pilgrim wrote:
>
> > I have an old 6.4-R machine which I can take as far as RELENG_6, but no
> > further due to a hardware-support issue (special hardware, third party
> > driver).  The hardware needs to live a while yet, so I'd like to try to
get
> > the installed ports as up to date as possible.  The current ports tree
> > doesn't work on 6.x
>
> Chris Rees wrote:
>
> > I think you may have some luck installing an up to date make(1) and
> > dialog(1) (or set NO_DIALOG=yes in make.conf) from stable/9 or
> > similar; many of the problems on 6 are caused by missing variable
> > modifiers.
>
> I have a jail without sources under 6.3-STABLE. I copied all the content
> of the /usr/src/usr.src/make/ directory from another machine with
8.3-RELEASE,
> in that directory gave `make` command, then copied the "make" executable
to
> /usr/bin/ . I use current port tree and succesfully update
> openssl, stunnel, pcre, exim.

You can also just use make install to get it in there :)

Chris
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Re: When was the last ports tree that worked with RELENG_6?

2013-02-16 Thread Lena
Darren Pilgrim wrote:

> I have an old 6.4-R machine which I can take as far as RELENG_6, but no
> further due to a hardware-support issue (special hardware, third party
> driver).  The hardware needs to live a while yet, so I'd like to try to get
> the installed ports as up to date as possible.  The current ports tree
> doesn't work on 6.x

Chris Rees wrote:

> I think you may have some luck installing an up to date make(1) and
> dialog(1) (or set NO_DIALOG=yes in make.conf) from stable/9 or
> similar; many of the problems on 6 are caused by missing variable
> modifiers.

I have a jail without sources under 6.3-STABLE. I copied all the content
of the /usr/src/usr.src/make/ directory from another machine with 8.3-RELEASE,
in that directory gave `make` command, then copied the "make" executable to
/usr/bin/ . I use current port tree and succesfully update
openssl, stunnel, pcre, exim.
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Re: New version of TeX?

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 6 February 2013 13:50, Nathan Whitehorn  wrote:
> On 02/05/13 21:01, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>> On 04/02/2013 21:08, Boris Samorodov wrote:
>>> 04.02.2013 10:21, Dominic Fandrey пишет:
 On 04/02/2013 02:04, Danilo Egea wrote:
> Well, there is this project http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/171571
>>>
>>> I use the patch from this PR together with the attached diff
>>> and portmaster seems to DTRT with dependencies.
>>
>> Seeing that someone else actually uses it, I just attached a little
>> update fixing a problem I discovered only a couple of days ago. I
>> recommend you to install texlive-base again.
>>
>> Also I think it would be nice if you attached your patches to the PR.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>
> Is there any chance this could be committed now pending a longer-term
> rearchitecture of the TeX stuff? I just installed it on three machines
> (thanks!) with no trouble at all and everything is working perfectly.
> Waiting for some long-term solution seems to be making the perfect the
> enemy of the good -- and this Friday will mark 8 years since the last
> teTeX update.

I would very much like to put Dominic's version in (for no particular
reason other than simplicity, and it was the first I looked at-- I
can't see any major advantage of one over the other).

Hiroki-san, can we please move this forward?  I'm happy to test and
commit this one.  If the worst comes to the worst, we could have
alternative TeXLive ports accompanied by a USE_LATEX knob and
bsd.latex.mk

Chris
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Re: When was the last ports tree that worked with RELENG_6?

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 February 2013 15:55, Darren Pilgrim  wrote:
> I have an old 6.4-R machine which I can take as far as RELENG_6, but no
> further due to a hardware-support issue (special hardware, third party
> driver).  The hardware needs to live a while yet, so I'd like to try to get
> the installed ports as up to date as possible.  The current ports tree
> doesn't work on 6.x, so I need to find the last version of the ports tree
> that does work.
>
> The ports tree on the box is *newer* than the one tagged RELEASE_6_EOL, so
> it's not that simple.  The current tree was pulled 2012-Feb-21 10:38 UTC and
> I know it works.  It looks like the RELEASE_8_3_0 tree (2012-March-7) also
> works based on some very basic testing.
>
> Does anyone when the ports tree broke for 6.x?  Alternately, if someone
> knows what it was that (first) broke the tree for 6.x, I can easily hunt
> down commits and find a predated tree that works.  Was it the optionsNG
> stuff?

I'm pretty certain that ports on 6.X was broken with OPTIONSng
(r297660), but I seem to remember that other compatibility was ripped
out before then; perhaps Mark can clarify.

r259629 specifically talks about removing 6.3 shims, but that is way before.

I think you may have some luck installing an up to date make(1) and
dialog(1) (or set NO_DIALOG=yes in make.conf) from stable/9 or
similar; many of the problems on 6 are caused by missing variable
modifiers.

Chris
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When was the last ports tree that worked with RELENG_6?

2013-02-16 Thread Darren Pilgrim
I have an old 6.4-R machine which I can take as far as RELENG_6, but no 
further due to a hardware-support issue (special hardware, third party 
driver).  The hardware needs to live a while yet, so I'd like to try to 
get the installed ports as up to date as possible.  The current ports 
tree doesn't work on 6.x, so I need to find the last version of the 
ports tree that does work.


The ports tree on the box is *newer* than the one tagged RELEASE_6_EOL, 
so it's not that simple.  The current tree was pulled 2012-Feb-21 10:38 
UTC and I know it works.  It looks like the RELEASE_8_3_0 tree 
(2012-March-7) also works based on some very basic testing.


Does anyone when the ports tree broke for 6.x?  Alternately, if someone 
knows what it was that (first) broke the tree for 6.x, I can easily hunt 
down commits and find a predated tree that works.  Was it the optionsNG 
stuff?

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openfire start up problem

2013-02-16 Thread David Southwell

Hi Openfire not running from new install

freebsd 8.2 amd64

# service openfire start
starting openfire
# service openfire status
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/openfire WARNING: no shebang line in COPYRIGHT
openfire nopt running (check /var/run/openfire.pid)


Thanks in advance for any guidance
David

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.2: database replication on demand - easy way (Bucardo in ports not available)

2013-02-16 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## O. Hartmann (ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de):

> I feel realy uncomfortable with the built-in streaming replication of
> PostgreSQL 9.2 since I never managed it to make a successful
> replication. As far as I understand, the streaming mechanism of
> PostgreSQL 9.X expects the "slaves" to be always online, to which the
> replication.

The streaming replication is able to recover after "some" connectivity
loss, provided you still have enough transaction log (WAL) available
on the master. See configuration parameter "wal_keep_segments" and
it's description. Have you looked at databases/postgresql-repmgr?
Otherwise, I'm not that much of help with this, as the postgresql
clustering I'm doing at work runs under linux and is rather proprietary
(the underlying cluster technology has been developed by us). OTOH,
aside from the integration with our cluster, everything I did to
get the replication running should be very portable.

Regards,
Christoph

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FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

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PostgreSQL 9.2: database replication on demand - easy way (Bucardo in ports not available)

2013-02-16 Thread O. Hartmann
Dear Sirs.

I send my question to this list in the hope someone has the same
problems and already found a solution. I will start explaining the
background and my difficulties with recent solutions.

We/I have a FreeBSD 10 box running a PostgreSQL 9.2 server containing
literature references via RefDB, some sort of bugtracking via Bugzilla,
several astronomical databases of the IAU (minor planet objects) and
others. Those databases are kept and maintained on one single box at the
department.

Since a lot of the data is needed in my home office or at a lab with
non-permanent internet connection, I desperately need to synchronize the
databases kept on the "master" with some backup database systems acting
as "master/slave" when they are online. The latter definition is fuzzy,
since what I need is an automated synchronization of the "real" master
with a sporadically upcoming "slave" at home or at field sites for my
science where, as said, the internet connectivity isn't provided 24/7.

I feel realy uncomfortable with the built-in streaming replication of
PostgreSQL 9.2 since I never managed it to make a successful
replication. As far as I understand, the streaming mechanism of
PostgreSQL 9.X expects the "slaves" to be always online, to which the
replication.

I was said that Bucardo (http://bucardo.org/) would be the tool of
choice, but FreeBSD ports seem not not have this tool. SLONY also is a
way to complicated for my for just this task - or I'm to dumb to perform
a solution that fits easily.

Is someone out here who might have the same problems and already figured
out how to solve this? I do not want to go into this crap "pg_dump",
since I tried this many times and it failed due to some issues I never
figured out why in PostgreSQL 9.2. Sorry being unspecific here, it is a
long time since I tried this frustrating task and it boiled always down
to some confusing "postgres/template1" issues when dumping the master
and trying to update the "slave". Even following the textbook's
suggestions ended up in a mess.

Well, I appreaciate some hints and concepts (working, not hypothetical
"could be's", those are floating enough around the FreeBSD related net).

Thanks in advance and thanks for the patience,

Oliver



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