texlive appears broken

[Steve Kargl]

% svn info
Path: .
Working Copy Root Path: /usr/ports
URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head/print/texlive-base
Relative URL: ^/head/print/texlive-base
Repository Root: http://svn.freebsd.org/ports
Repository UUID: 35697150-7ecd-e111-bb59-0022644237b5
Revision: 401397
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: hrs
Last Changed Rev: 397889
Last Changed Date: 2015-09-25 14:42:25 -0700 (Fri, 25 Sep 2015)

% make
% make install
===>  Installing for texlive-base-20150521_6
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on executable: psbook - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on file: 
/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/.texlive-tlmgr - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on executable: pdfopen - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on executable: weave - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on package: ghostscript9-base>=9.06_11 - 
found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on package: perl5>=5.20<5.21 - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on executable: indexinfo - found
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libicuio.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libicuio.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libt1.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libt1.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libTECkit.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libTECkit.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libgd.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libgd.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libgraphite2.so - 
found (/usr/local/lib/libgraphite2.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libfreetype.so - 
found (/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libharfbuzz.so - 
found (/usr/local/lib/libharfbuzz.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libpng.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libpng.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libzzip.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libzzip.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libpoppler.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libpoppler.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libpotrace.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libpotrace.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libkpathsea.so - 
found (/usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.so)
===>   texlive-base-20150521_6 depends on shared library: libptexenc.so - found 
(/usr/local/lib/libptexenc.so)
===>  Checking if texlive-base already installed
===>   Registering installation for texlive-base-20150521_6
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a2ping: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a5toa4: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/adhocfilelist: No such 
file or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/afm2afm: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/arara: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/arlatex: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/authorindex: No such 
file or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/autoinst: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/bibdoiadd: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/bibexport: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/bibzbladd: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/bundledoc: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/cachepic: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/checkcites: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/cjk-gs-integrate: No 
such file or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/context: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/contextjit: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/convbkmk: No such file 
or directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/ctanify: No such file or 
directory

FreeBSD Port: php56-5.6.14

[Dutchman01]

Can you please upgrade this port to upstream release.

 

Regards,

Dutchman

 

 

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Re: texlive appears broken

[Steve Kargl]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 01:16:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> % make
> % make install
...

> pkg-static: Unable to access file 
> /usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a2ping: No such file 
> or directory
> pkg-static: Unable to access file 
> /usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a5toa4: No such file 
> or directory

Sigh.  All of these install errors are due to the 
recent collate changes.

make install fails with

troutmask:root[220] locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"

make install works with

troutmask:root[220] locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=


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FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date

[portscout]

Dear port maintainer,

The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your
ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check
each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate,
submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can
safely ignore the entry.

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Port| Current version | New version
+-+
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+-+


If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page
for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of
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security/lynis

[Walter Schwarzenfeld]

Got following error:

Following error appears:

===>  License GPLv3 accepted by the user
===>   lynis-2.1.1 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
===> Fetching all distfiles required by lynis-2.1.1 for building
===>  Extracting for lynis-2.1.1
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for lynis-2.1.1.tar.gz.
tar: Error opening archive: Unrecognized archive format
*** Error code 1

Could be solved if MASTER_SITES will be changed
from

http://cisofy.com/files/
to

https://cisofy.com/files/
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Re: security/lynis

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Got following error:
> 
> Following error appears:
> 
> ===>  License GPLv3 accepted by the user
> ===>   lynis-2.1.1 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found
> ===> Fetching all distfiles required by lynis-2.1.1 for building
> ===>  Extracting for lynis-2.1.1
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for lynis-2.1.1.tar.gz.
> tar: Error opening archive: Unrecognized archive format
> *** Error code 1

Could not reproduce it (on two seperate hosts).

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Python default versions

[Carmel NY]

Unless I am mistaken, the default version of "python" on FreeBSD is "2.7" The
default version for the "meta-port" for version 3 of the Python interpreter
is "3.4"

I was just wondering if there is any serious consideration to at least
changing the FreeBSD default version to "3.x". Python 3.0 was released in
2008. The final 2.x version 2.7 release came out in mid-2010, Also, could the
default version for the "python3" meta-port be bumped to the latest version,
"3.5".

Finally, is it possible to have two versions of python installed on the same
machine, or would it lead to chaos?

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Re: Workint whith partial ports tree has become impossible after some (r399278? r399921?) changes in ports infrastructure

[Lev Serebryakov]

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On 09.11.2015 21:52, Bryan Drewery wrote:

> 
> This and the perl one are fixed after r401162.
> 
 But this one isn't

===>  License APACHE20 accepted by the user
===>  Found saved configuration for subversion-1.9.2
Error a dependency refers to a non existing origin:
/usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg in PKG_DEPENDS
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/devel/subversion


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Re: security/lynis

[Walter Schwarzenfeld]

It fetched first a tar.gz with 137 kb. In it was a html with redirecting.
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Re: texlive appears broken

[Rainer Hurling]

Am 13.11.15 um 02:55 schrieb Steve Kargl:

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 01:16:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:

% make
% make install

...


pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a2ping: No such file or 
directory
pkg-static: Unable to access file 
/usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a5toa4: No such file or 
directory


Sigh.  All of these install errors are due to the
recent collate changes.

make install fails with

troutmask:root[220] locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"

make install works with

troutmask:root[220] locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=




I think, it is the same problem with LC_COLLATE=C, that I reported in 
[1]. It took me some time to find out, that some build processes need 
LC_COLLATE=C instead of LC_COLLATE=xx_XX.UTF-8 with the new locale stuff 
from bapt@.


Regards,
Rainer Hurling


[1] https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg66706.html
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pkg-fallout mails

[Fernando Apesteguía]

Hi,

Since the last week (aprox), I keep receiving pkg-fallout mails for
cad/openvsp, all of them with the following warning:

!!! Jail is newer than host. (Jail: 1100089, Host: 1100079) !!!
!!! This is not supported. !!!
!!! Host kernel must be same or newer than jail. !!!
!!! Expect build failures. !!!

In the past, when I received one isolated mail, I just ignored it, but
I'm receiving them more often now. Something we can do about this?

Chees.
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Re: texlive appears broken

[Steve Kargl]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 08:08:14AM +0100, Rainer Hurling wrote:
> Am 13.11.15 um 02:55 schrieb Steve Kargl:
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 01:16:38PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
> >> % make
> >> % make install
> > ...
> >
> >> pkg-static: Unable to access file 
> >> /usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a2ping: No such 
> >> file or directory
> >> pkg-static: Unable to access file 
> >> /usr/ports/print/texlive-base/work/stage/usr/local/bin/a5toa4: No such 
> >> file or directory
> >
> > Sigh.  All of these install errors are due to the
> > recent collate changes.
> >
> > make install fails with
> >
> > troutmask:root[220] locale
> > LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
> >
> > make install works with
> >
> > troutmask:root[220] locale
> > LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> > LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_COLLATE=C
> > LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
> > LC_ALL=
> >
> >
> 
> I think, it is the same problem with LC_COLLATE=C, that I reported in 
> [1]. It took me some time to find out, that some build processes need 
> LC_COLLATE=C instead of LC_COLLATE=xx_XX.UTF-8 with the new locale stuff 
> from bapt@.
> 
> Regards,
> Rainer Hurling
> 
> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg66706.html

I actually was puzzled with texlive not installing and remembered
seeing someone had issues with the new collate stuff.  I simply
tried the latter setting with a "Let's see what happens".  It worked.

Moral 1 of the story.  Build ports with LC_ALL= and LC_COLLATE=C.

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Trouble generating INDEX

[Andrea Venturoli]

Hello.

Since yesterday I cannot generate INDEX on my system anymore.

After a svn update, portsdb -uU gives:


Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX20151112-25196-13whzns - please 
wait..

> make_index: /usr/ports/audio/amarok-kde4:
> no entry for /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-server

Done.
failed to generate INDEX!
portsdb: index generation error



Yet I saw no mention of this on the mailing lists and a websearch didn't 
produce any result.


Is it a general problem or a problem on my box?

 bye & Thanks
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Re: Trouble generating INDEX

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> After a svn update, portsdb -uU gives:
> 
> > Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX20151112-25196-13whzns - 
> > please wait..
>  > make_index: /usr/ports/audio/amarok-kde4:
>  > no entry for /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-server
> > Done.
> > failed to generate INDEX!
> > portsdb: index generation error

Do you have

databases/mysql51-server

installed ?

It was removed on the 10th because it is EOL'ed upstream:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-all/2015-November/109400.html

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License info Q

[Roger Marquis]

I need to get license info from a batch of ports and packages.

Problem is not all the specified ports/pkgs are installed or have license
info in their Makefile.  Is there a reliable way to enumerate port or
package license strings, preferably without fetching a package tarfile?

Roger
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Re: Python default versions

[Kubilay Kocak]

On 12/11/2015 11:45 PM, Carmel NY wrote:
> Unless I am mistaken, the default version of "python" on FreeBSD is "2.7" The
> default version for the "meta-port" for version 3 of the Python interpreter
> is "3.4"

Correct.

> I was just wondering if there is any serious consideration to at least
> changing the FreeBSD default version to "3.x". Python 3.0 was released in
> 2008. The final 2.x version 2.7 release came out in mid-2010, Also, could the
> default version for the "python3" meta-port be bumped to the latest version,
> "3.5".

On 3.x as the default version:

Unfortunately (as much as I'd love it to be otherwise) the 'has been
around since year  argument doesn't fly. Even many Python developers
still don't default to 3.x. It's an Python ecosystem issue that is
slowly but surely getting traction, and we (OS's) can certainly help that.

If every python package was PEP-394 compatible it would at least make it
a bit easier. Unfortuntely, there is *that much* legacy code out there
that it makes it quite untenable to 'simply make the switch' on the
basis of how long Python 3.x has been out.

Having said that, There absolutely is a desire to do it, but we (FreeBSD
Python team, along with you and other FreeBSD/Python users) should
discuss and document what this needs to look like along, how it needs to
work, along with any issues that are likely or might present themselves.

This will ensure that any migration is intentional, methodical and
minimises user impact.

TLDR: On Python 3.x as a default version: Yes, the desire is there and
there's no reason in principle against it.

On 3.5 becoming the default version, can do. Please open an issue under:

Ports & Packages::Ports Framework
Summary: Mk/Uses/python.mk: Set Python 3.5 as the default 3.x version
CC: pyt...@freebsd.org

> Finally, is it possible to have two versions of python installed on the same
> machine, or would it lead to chaos?

Absolutely. You may also build port for any version of python by playing
with the DEFAULT_VERSION environment variable (in /etc/make.conf or on
the CLI)

There are *some* ports however, that are not currently 'concurrent
installation' safe, in that they install non-unique (read: identically
named) files.

Ports that have USE_PYTHON=concurrent set are tested to be concurrent safe.

Ports for example that install console_scripts and man files "tend" not
to be, for examples, both py27-foo and py34-foo (same underlying port)
try to install LOCALBASE/bin/foo.

Don't hesitate to open an issue for any Python port that isn't
concurrent safe, as "that is a bug" and should be fixed.

Great questions Carmel, thanks for posting

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Re: Trouble generating INDEX

[Andrea Venturoli]

On 11/12/15 15:49, Kurt Jaeger wrote:


Do you have

databases/mysql51-server

installed ?

It was removed on the 10th because it is EOL'ed upstream:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-all/2015-November/109400.html


Yes.

I thought this wouldn't matter when building INDEX, and was going to 
upgrade it afterwards; guess I'll need to do this the other way round.


 bye & Thanks
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Re: Trouble generating INDEX

[Matthew Seaman]

On 2015/11/12 15:43, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> On 11/12/15 15:49, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> 
>> Do you have
>>
>> databases/mysql51-server
>>
>> installed ?
>>
>> It was removed on the 10th because it is EOL'ed upstream:
>>
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-all/2015-November/109400.html
>>
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I thought this wouldn't matter when building INDEX, and was going to
> upgrade it afterwards; guess I'll need to do this the other way round.

What you have installed should ideally have no bearing on making an
INDEX.  What will affect the INDEX are settings in your /etc/make.conf
or similar and various OPTIONS choices that can modify the dependency graph.

However there are still some ports that will set some dependency to
whatever version of a program they can find has been installed.  This
works fairly well if you're always building from ports directly on the
machine where the software will be deployed, but it really doesn't help
when you're installing packages built elsewhere.

I thought however that MySQL wasn't one of these, and the dependency
version choice is entirely controlled by whatever the setting in
DEFAULT_VERSIONS was.

Cheers,

Matthew





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Re: Workint whith partial ports tree has become impossible after some (r399278? r399921?) changes in ports infrastructure

[Bryan Drewery]

On 11/12/2015 5:00 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> On 09.11.2015 21:52, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> 
> 
>> This and the perl one are fixed after r401162.
> 
>  But this one isn't
> 
> ===>  License APACHE20 accepted by the user
> ===>  Found saved configuration for subversion-1.9.2
> Error a dependency refers to a non existing origin:
> /usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg in PKG_DEPENDS
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/devel/subversion
> 

What command did you run?

Also, I consider ports-mgmt/pkg to be a required part of the ports tree,
just as Mk/ and Templates/ is. I'll look anyhow to make sure it's not a
recent regression with the all-depends/clean-depends changes.


-- 
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Bryan Drewery



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Re: Workint whith partial ports tree has become impossible after some (r399278? r399921?) changes in ports infrastructure

[Lev Serebryakov]

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On 12.11.2015 21:07, Bryan Drewery wrote:

>> But this one isn't
>> 
>> ===>  License APACHE20 accepted by the user ===>  Found saved
>> configuration for subversion-1.9.2 Error a dependency refers to a
>> non existing origin: /usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
>> in PKG_DEPENDS *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop. make[1]: stopped in
>> /usr/home/lev/FreeBSD/ports/devel/subversion
>> 
> 
> What command did you run?

% make WRKDIRPREFIX='' all

 All dependencies have been installed to default ${PREFIX} already, of
course. I would not complain about "non existing origin" for
dependencies that is missing in system. It is perfectly Ok to complain
about missing dependencies which need to be built & installed (though,
previous "versions" of ports silently picked them up from default
/usr/ports in such situation).

> Also, I consider ports-mgmt/pkg to be a required part of the ports
> tree, just as Mk/ and Templates/ is. I'll look anyhow to make sure
> it's not a recent regression with the all-depends/clean-depends
> changes.
 I have fresh, actual pkg installed in system at this moment
(1.6.1_2). My partially-checked-out tree contains Mk/ and Templates/,
because they are not installed in system (and could not be).

  It is not clear, also, how to resolve situation when some
dependencies should be taken from work tree (which is not full ports
tree, but partial checkout) and other ones from system tree, like
situation when committer work on several new ports which are
inter-dependent. Have full tree checkout looks ugly, it is huge :-)

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Re: Port request: pngout (image compression)

[Torsten Zuehlsdorff]

Hello Murk,


Thank you sir -- great stuff!


You're welcome :)

Sadly i'm still waiting for a response addressing the license questions.


And the waiting is going on. Hopefully i will get a reaction after the 
third email.



Also i wasn't able to fix deskutils/ladon because of its npm
dependencies. But this is needed to get jpeg-compress into the ports.

My last idea is providing a precompiled version of ladon. This is not
wanted in the portstree by default, but there are some exceptions from
this rule. I will test if the port works this way and let the committer
decide if this is acceptable as a workaround.


In the meantime another option arrived. Olivier Duchateau worked on 
getting Node.js ports into tree, which would definitely fix 
deskutils/ladon. A link to his status report:

https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2015-07-2015-09.html#Node.js-Modules

I've already contacted him, but he mentioned, that there is only a very 
slow progress in getting his work into the portstree. But there is 
already a list of over 100 ports prepared, including all ports we need 
for ladon.


Greetings,
Torsten
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Re: Trouble generating INDEX

[Andrea Venturoli]

On 11/12/15 16:59, Matthew Seaman wrote:


What you have installed should ideally have no bearing on making an
INDEX.  What will affect the INDEX are settings in your /etc/make.conf
or similar and various OPTIONS choices that can modify the dependency graph.


I thought so... but: I have (had) nothing mysql-related in 
/etc/make.conf, and no OPTIONS for amarok-kde4 (which I never installed).





This
works fairly well if you're always building from ports directly on the
machine where the software will be deployed


I do.
I'm always building from source on the same machine that will run the 
program.





but it really doesn't help
when you're installing packages built elsewhere.


Not my case (at least not yet).




I thought however that MySQL wasn't one of these, and the dependency
version choice is entirely controlled by whatever the setting in
DEFAULT_VERSIONS was.


In any case I solved now; I'm just writing in case it can help others.




 bye & Thanks
av.
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Re: Python default versions

[Craig Rodrigues]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Carmel NY  wrote:

>
> I was just wondering if there is any serious consideration to at least
> changing the FreeBSD default version to "3.x".



It's actually a lot of work to update all the Python packages to work
with Python 3, since at the language level there are changes which make
valid Python 2 code a syntax error in Python 3.  In the Linux world, both
Ubuntu and Fedora have huge
efforts to make Python 3 the default.  They are not done yet:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default

Probably when one or both of those projects are done,
it will be much easier for FreeBSD to change the default,
since the Linux guys will have fixed a lot of the packages that FreeBSD
uses.
Most likely they will be done by next year.

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Re: Python default versions

[Kubilay Kocak]

On 13/11/2015 3:02 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Carmel NY  wrote:
> 
>>
>> I was just wondering if there is any serious consideration to at least
>> changing the FreeBSD default version to "3.x".
> 
> 
> 
> It's actually a lot of work to update all the Python packages to work
> with Python 3, since at the language level there are changes which make
> valid Python 2 code a syntax error in Python 3.  In the Linux world, both
> Ubuntu and Fedora have huge
> efforts to make Python 3 the default.  They are not done yet:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default
> 
> Probably when one or both of those projects are done,
> it will be much easier for FreeBSD to change the default,
> since the Linux guys will have fixed a lot of the packages that FreeBSD
> uses.
> Most likely they will be done by next year.
> 
> --
> Craig


It's also important to remember the distinction between 'defaulting' to
3.x, and requiring all things to work with 3.x. I don't believe we'd
necessarily require the latter, in requiring/wanting the former, as long
as the 2.x stack remained fully supported.

One of the things we'd *certainly* need before tackling this, is the
official package repositories building *at least* 2.7 *and* the default
3.x version of packages. Ideally all python versions.






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