Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread abi
I tried to build www/nginx today, however it seems ignoring 
DEFAULT_VERSIONS knob.

Old style knobs works.

On 02.07.2016 19:10, Don Lewis wrote:

On  2 Jul, Gerard Seibert wrote:

I have to admit that this whole discussion has gotten me confused. I
use "openssl" from ports, always have and probably always will. I use
to use the now apparently depreciate statement in the /etc/make.conf
file:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES

That's what I've been doing to build my own package set.


 From what I am reading, I would replace that line with the following
statement:

DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= ssl=openssl

I believe that is correct.


to force the use of the "ports" version of "openssl". Is that correct,
or is my interpretation of this incorrect?

Thanks


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Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread Don Lewis
On  2 Jul, Shane Ambler wrote:
> On 02/07/2016 04:29, Don Lewis wrote:
>> I've got a port that does not work with base openssl because it looks
>> for libssl.pc.  Other than that, I don't think it is picky about what
>> flavor of ports ssl is installed.
> 
> If it is looking for libssl.pc then it is using pkg-config to get the
> CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS to use for openssl.
> 
> Search the Makefiles for  pkg-config openssl --cflags --libs or the
> variable substituted equivalent, then patch it to suit. If you want to
> use the system openssl then manually adding -lssl -lcrypto where it adds
> the result from pkg-config should work.

In this case, the configure script skips the call to pkg-config if
$libssl_CFLAGS is set.  I was able to get a successful build by passing
the proper environment variables to configure without the need for
patching it.  This is what I added to the ports Makefile:

.if ${SSL_DEFAULT} == base
. if ${OPSYS} == FreeBSD && ${OSVERSION} < 100
IGNORE= base OpenSSL in FreeBSD 9 is too old, specify a ports version of SSL by 
adding DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=... to /etc/make.conf and rebuild everything that 
needs SSL
. else
CONFIGURE_ENV+= libcrypto_CFLAGS="-I${OPENSSLINC}"  \
libcrypto_LIBS="-L${OPENSSLLIB} -lcrypto"   \
libssl_CFLAGS="-I${OPENSSLINC}" \
libssl_LIBS="-L${OPENSSLLIB} -lssl"
. endif
.endif

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Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread Don Lewis
On  2 Jul, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> I have to admit that this whole discussion has gotten me confused. I
> use "openssl" from ports, always have and probably always will. I use
> to use the now apparently depreciate statement in the /etc/make.conf
> file:
> 
> WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES

That's what I've been doing to build my own package set.

> From what I am reading, I would replace that line with the following
> statement:
> 
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= ssl=openssl

I believe that is correct.

> to force the use of the "ports" version of "openssl". Is that correct,
> or is my interpretation of this incorrect?
> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 02/07/2016 11:45, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> I have to admit that this whole discussion has gotten me confused. I
> use "openssl" from ports, always have and probably always will. I use
> to use the now apparently depreciate statement in the /etc/make.conf
> file:
> 
> WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES
> 
> From what I am reading, I would replace that line with the following
> statement:
> 
> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= ssl=openssl
> 
> to force the use of the "ports" version of "openssl". Is that correct,
> or is my interpretation of this incorrect?

These would work for an individual user to customize things via their
/etc/make.conf file, and have the effect of causing all OpenSSL using
ports to link against the ports version of OpenSSL.

Except that neither of these constructs is valid for adding to a port's
own Makefile -- and indeed, as you say, WITH_OPENSSL_PORT is no longer
useable anywhere.

USES=ssl unfortunately does not offer any argument to allow the port
maintainer to limit what SSL library the user can select.  There are two
possible answers to this problem

  1) Test the value of eg. OPENSSL_PORT after USES=ssl has been
 processed and error out if the user has chosen something
 incompatible with this port.

  2) Make this port, and in fact all ports, compatible with as many as
 possible of the different variations on SSL libraries that the
 ports supports[*].

While (1) is superficially attractive, it basically means that your port
is going to fragile in the face of changes to whichever SSL library is
chosen: something that is likely to happen with different versions of
FreeBSD or based on revealed security problems with these libraries.
Not recommended.

Essentially, you will need to be able to do (2) -- compile successfully
against a number of different SSL library implementations.  This is
clearly much harder to do than (1), given that software consumers of SSL
libraries will all have their own ideas about how to configure and link
themselves, but on the whole there will be several groups of relatively
similar solutions, likely one of which will be relevant and fairly easy
to copy and adapt to the needs of a specific port.

A lot of this work has already been done, and documented -- largely as a
result of the desire to use LibreSSL as a generic replacement for
OpenSSL.  See Bernard Spil's wiki pages here:

   https://wiki.freebsd.org/OpenSSL/

There is a plan afoot to make all ported software only use SSL libraries
from the ports, and reserve the base OpenSSL library as private to base
system software.  This will make SSL support in ports substantially
easier, but it not here yet.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] which is currently base-OpenSSL, ports-OpenSSL, LibreSSL and
maybe... a bunch of other contenders like GnuTLS, PolarSSL, WolfSSL.
You've a reasonable assurance of success with the first three, but the
rest are less commonly used, or have significant differences in their
APIs, and more importantly, haven't had the work put in to make them
generically portable[+].

[+] Also there's a question over whether these SSL libraries will be up
to standard with the latest security ideas, such as obsoleting SSLv2,
SSLv3 and TLSv1.0 in favour of TLSv1.1 or above.




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Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread Shane Ambler

On 02/07/2016 04:29, Don Lewis wrote:

I've got a port that does not work with base openssl because it looks
for libssl.pc.  Other than that, I don't think it is picky about what
flavor of ports ssl is installed.


If it is looking for libssl.pc then it is using pkg-config to get the
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS to use for openssl.

Search the Makefiles for  pkg-config openssl --cflags --libs or the
variable substituted equivalent, then patch it to suit. If you want to
use the system openssl then manually adding -lssl -lcrypto where it adds
the result from pkg-config should work.


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Shane Ambler

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Re: what to do when base openssl isn't suitable

2016-07-02 Thread Gerard Seibert
I have to admit that this whole discussion has gotten me confused. I
use "openssl" from ports, always have and probably always will. I use
to use the now apparently depreciate statement in the /etc/make.conf
file:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES

>From what I am reading, I would replace that line with the following
statement:

DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= ssl=openssl

to force the use of the "ports" version of "openssl". Is that correct,
or is my interpretation of this incorrect?

Thanks

-- 
Carmel


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