Re: Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer shipped

2020-08-16 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Sunday, 16 August 2020 14:00:01 CEST freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org 
wrote:
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:53:21 +0200
> From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder 
> 
> ## Carmel (carmel...@outlook.com):
> > I would have expected to see something in"UPDATING". The only mention
> > is in "MOVED": net/kblog||2020-08-13|No longer shipped
> 
> Simple port deletions are rarely in UPDATING.
> On the other hand, and as I'm not familiar with KDE and it's ports
> layout: wouldn't it make sense to have only the toplevel port (there
> is x11/kde5) in your ports-list and have poudriere figure out all
> the dependencies on it's own?

If you want "all the stuff from the KDE community" then x11/kde5 is a good 
thing to install (although that doesn't install **all** ofall of it). But you 
could run any one of a number of applications from the KDE community 
individually. Like krita, if you're a painter, or kdenlive if you want to do 
video editing or .. 

> 
> > Obviously, poudriere cannot handle this situation on its own. To bad.
> 
> You did request a port to be built which does not exist (anymore) -
> I'm not sure what you did expect. Silently ignoring the problem and
> leaving you with the outdated package (perhaps even in your repo?)
> seems worse.

As far as net/kblog goes, it was removed upstream, see the not-very-
informative upstream issue at

https://phabricator.kde.org/T12157


The (Wordpress?) blogging client from KDE is unmaintained, so the supporting 
stack for that application goes away upstream eventually as well.

[ade]

PS. Thanks for reminding .. I saw that blogilo was still mentioned in the 
kdepim pkg-descr, which I've now removed.

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Re: Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer shipped

2020-08-16 Thread Carmel
On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:12:41 +0200, Michael Gmelin stated:
>> On 16. Aug 2020, at 02:16, Carmel  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:22:35 +0200, Christoph Moench-Tegeder
>> stated:  
>>> ## Carmel (carmel...@outlook.com):
>>>   
 [00:00:01] Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer
 shipped [00:00:01] Error: Fatal errors encountered gathering
 initial ports metadata
>>>   
 Has anyone seen this before, and how do I rectify it?
>>> 
>>> What it says: net/kblog is gone (with the latest KDE Application
>>> update in r544824, see
>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?limit_changes=0=revision=544824
>>> for the full commit).
>>> You need to remove that from your ports-list.txt.  
>> 
>> I would have expected to see something in"UPDATING". The only mention
>> is in "MOVED": net/kblog||2020-08-13|No longer shipped  
>
>MOVED is the documented location for this kind of information, see
>
>https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/moved-and-updating-files.html
>
>> 
>> Obviously, poudriere cannot handle this situation on its own. To
>> bad.  
>
>Well, it kind of did. You explicitly asked it to build a port that has
>been removed and it informed you about the fact that the port no
>longer exists (and why). What else would you expect it to do?
>
>Best,
>Michael

There were a large number of ports, primarily related to KDE, that were
to be updated. I would have expected poudriere to inform me that a port
was no longer available, perhaps offer me an option to remove said
port, and then proceed to update the remaining ports.

There have been ports in the past that were removed from the ports
system. Poudriere never just 'kicked the bucket' when it encountered
any of them.

I do believe that something should have been mentioned in UPDATING. I
rarely, if ever, read MOVED umless it is mentioned in UPDATING. I read
UPDATING before I ever attempt updating any port(s).

-- 
Jerry




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Re: 11.3/aarch64 pkg build seems broken/hanging

2020-08-16 Thread Ronald Klop
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:17:47 +0200, Ronald Klop   
wrote:



Hi,

See:  
http://thunderx1.nyi.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=113arm64-quarterly=544320


All current builds are from 10 aug or earlier and seem stuck.


I saw that the build was restarted a few days ago. But now the URL gives a  
timeout.



Does anybody know who to ping about this? Or what is going on?


So, this question still stands.
NB: I would love invest some time into this and help running the build  
machines.




Regards,
Ronald.
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Re: Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer shipped

2020-08-16 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Carmel (carmel...@outlook.com):

> I would have expected to see something in"UPDATING". The only mention
> is in "MOVED": net/kblog||2020-08-13|No longer shipped

Simple port deletions are rarely in UPDATING.
On the other hand, and as I'm not familiar with KDE and it's ports
layout: wouldn't it make sense to have only the toplevel port (there
is x11/kde5) in your ports-list and have poudriere figure out all
the dependencies on it's own?

> Obviously, poudriere cannot handle this situation on its own. To bad.

You did request a port to be built which does not exist (anymore) -
I'm not sure what you did expect. Silently ignoring the problem and
leaving you with the outdated package (perhaps even in your repo?)
seems worse.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer shipped

2020-08-16 Thread Michael Gmelin


> On 16. Aug 2020, at 02:16, Carmel  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 01:22:35 +0200, Christoph Moench-Tegeder stated:
>> ## Carmel (carmel...@outlook.com):
>> 
>>> [00:00:01] Error: MOVED: net/kblog EXPIRED 2020-08-13 No longer
>>> shipped [00:00:01] Error: Fatal errors encountered gathering initial
>>> ports metadata  
>> 
>>> Has anyone seen this before, and how do I rectify it?  
>> 
>> What it says: net/kblog is gone (with the latest KDE Application update
>> in r544824, see
>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?limit_changes=0=revision=544824
>> for the full commit).
>> You need to remove that from your ports-list.txt.
> 
> I would have expected to see something in"UPDATING". The only mention
> is in "MOVED": net/kblog||2020-08-13|No longer shipped

MOVED is the documented location for this kind of information, see

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/moved-and-updating-files.html

> 
> Obviously, poudriere cannot handle this situation on its own. To bad.

Well, it kind of did. You explicitly asked it to build a port that has been 
removed and it informed you about the fact that the port no longer exists (and 
why). What else would you expect it to do?

Best,
Michael


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