Re: [CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-26 Thread Marcin Cieslak
 Thomas Abthorpe portmgr-secret...@freebsd.org wrote:
 Sometimes, as a result of a repocopy, or changed maintainership, the
 Created By and MAINTAINER is no longer in synchronisation. To avoid
 confusion, the first line can be removed, optionally leaving us with a one
 line header.

 # $FreeBSD$

 Removing the line of attribution is to be done only at the consent/request
 of the original contributor.

Why bother? I always thought that this leaving the original maintainer
intact is a nice way to say thank you to the person who brought this
piece to FreeBSD.

//Marcin

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[CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-17 Thread Thomas Abthorpe
It was recently posted on,
http://blogs.freebsdish.org/portmgr/2012/09/01/change-to-the-header-in-ports-makefiles/
that we would adopt a new header for the ports Makefiles.  The initial
discussion seemed to show enough support for the idea of completely
stripping the header, leaving only the $FreeBSD$ tag.  After the
announcement was made, more people stated strong feelings that when and
where possible attribution be maintained in the header.

A private discussion was held among ports committers, and while opinions
were as varied as the individuals who shared them, it was decided to unify
on a two line header.

# Created by: J.Q. Public jqpub...@someaddress.com
# $FreeBSD$

The Whom line from the classic six line header becomes Created By.

Sometimes, as a result of a repocopy, or changed maintainership, the
Created By and MAINTAINER is no longer in synchronisation. To avoid
confusion, the first line can be removed, optionally leaving us with a one
line header.

# $FreeBSD$

Removing the line of attribution is to be done only at the consent/request
of the original contributor.

As before, we ask this header only be updated in conjunction with a regular
update, as we do not want any unnecessary churn to the repo prior to the
pending Ports Feature Freeze.

Thomas
on behalf of portmgr@

http://blogs.freebsdish.org/portmgr/2012/09/17/change-to-the-header-in-ports-makefiles-take-two/
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Re: [CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-17 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Thomas Abthorpe
portmgr-secret...@freebsd.org wrote:
 It was recently posted on,
 http://blogs.freebsdish.org/portmgr/2012/09/01/change-to-the-header-in-ports-makefiles/
 that we would adopt a new header for the ports Makefiles.  The initial
 discussion seemed to show enough support for the idea of completely
 stripping the header, leaving only the $FreeBSD$ tag.  After the
 announcement was made, more people stated strong feelings that when and
 where possible attribution be maintained in the header.

 A private discussion was held among ports committers, and while opinions
 were as varied as the individuals who shared them, it was decided to unify
 on a two line header.

 # Created by: J.Q. Public jqpub...@someaddress.com
 # $FreeBSD$

 The Whom line from the classic six line header becomes Created By.

 Sometimes, as a result of a repocopy, or changed maintainership, the
 Created By and MAINTAINER is no longer in synchronisation. To avoid
 confusion, the first line can be removed, optionally leaving us with a one
 line header.

 # $FreeBSD$

Wouldn't it make sense to have the # $FreeBSD$ line be the first
line of the file, so that it never changes?  Having some files where
the FreeBSD tag is first, and other files where it's second seems
arbitrarily inconsistent.

Lines that don't change should come first, so that things are always the same.

IMHO, of course.  :)

-- 
Freddie Cash
fjwc...@gmail.com
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Re: [CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-17 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith

On 09/17/12 11:43, Freddie Cash wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Thomas Abthorpe
portmgr-secret...@freebsd.org wrote:

It was recently posted on,
http://blogs.freebsdish.org/portmgr/2012/09/01/change-to-the-header-in-ports-makefiles/
that we would adopt a new header for the ports Makefiles.  The initial
discussion seemed to show enough support for the idea of completely
stripping the header, leaving only the $FreeBSD$ tag.  After the
announcement was made, more people stated strong feelings that when and
where possible attribution be maintained in the header.

A private discussion was held among ports committers, and while opinions
were as varied as the individuals who shared them, it was decided to unify
on a two line header.

# Created by: J.Q. Public jqpub...@someaddress.com
# $FreeBSD$

The Whom line from the classic six line header becomes Created By.

Sometimes, as a result of a repocopy, or changed maintainership, the
Created By and MAINTAINER is no longer in synchronisation. To avoid
confusion, the first line can be removed, optionally leaving us with a one
line header.

# $FreeBSD$


Wouldn't it make sense to have the # $FreeBSD$ line be the first
line of the file, so that it never changes?  Having some files where
the FreeBSD tag is first, and other files where it's second seems
arbitrarily inconsistent.

Lines that don't change should come first, so that things are always the same.

IMHO, of course.  :)




You want *consistency* ?

What will people ask for next?
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Re: [CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-17 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Thomas Abthorpe
 portmgr-secret...@freebsd.org wrote:
 It was recently posted on,
 http://blogs.freebsdish.org/portmgr/2012/09/01/change-to-the-header-in-ports-makefiles/
 that we would adopt a new header for the ports Makefiles.  The initial
 discussion seemed to show enough support for the idea of completely
 stripping the header, leaving only the $FreeBSD$ tag.  After the
 announcement was made, more people stated strong feelings that when and
 where possible attribution be maintained in the header.

 A private discussion was held among ports committers, and while opinions
 were as varied as the individuals who shared them, it was decided to unify
 on a two line header.

 # Created by: J.Q. Public jqpub...@someaddress.com
 # $FreeBSD$

 The Whom line from the classic six line header becomes Created By.

 Sometimes, as a result of a repocopy, or changed maintainership, the
 Created By and MAINTAINER is no longer in synchronisation. To avoid
 confusion, the first line can be removed, optionally leaving us with a one
 line header.

 # $FreeBSD$

 Wouldn't it make sense to have the # $FreeBSD$ line be the first
 line of the file, so that it never changes?  Having some files where
 the FreeBSD tag is first, and other files where it's second seems
 arbitrarily inconsistent.

 Lines that don't change should come first, so that things are always the same.

The copyright always come first. The $FreeBSD$ does change at the each commit.

 IMHO, of course.  :)

I don't care if it's IMHO, but dude you are pain in ass already.

 --
 Freddie Cash
 fjwc...@gmail.com


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Re: [CORRECTION] Change to the header in ports Makefiles, take two

2012-09-17 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Jeremy Messenger wrote on Mon 17.Sep'12 at 11:59:08 -0500 ]
 
  IMHO, of course.  :)
 
 I don't care if it's IMHO, but dude you are pain in ass already.
 
  --
  Freddie Cash
  fjwc...@gmail.com

What is a pain in the arse are comments like this. We use FreeBSD and people 
make decisions about its development and progress which affects those of us 
that use it, so I think we have the right to ask questions and make comments 
about these changes without being publicly criticised in such a rude manner.
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