Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On 6/17/11, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: 2011/6/16 b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com: bapt wrote: I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Could you please explain how you are checking this? Just looking at some of the recent deprecations, graphics/peps, graphics/vcg, and graphics/xfig are still available. On earlier ones, graphics/libconvolve exists in the jack_convolve section of the heaven sourceforge project: Those are not deprecated but broken, broken because they don't fetch and they need someone to take care of it, to send the new master_site line for example, I don't have time enough to update/fix all the master_site lines from the whole ports tree, so I I see none of the said master_site provide the distfiles, it is marked as broken because that is what it is. Well, the build often isn't broken (and users don't notice that it is broken) because the distfile may be cached locally, or on the project servers, so this is more a matter of policy in many cases. But I take your point. I saw that you began doing this soon after you announced a deprecation campaign, so I wasn't sure if your were doing this a preliminary step, before deprecating them in the near future. ... http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gsmlib.html Debian having the package doesn't mean that they are the upstream. No, but in this case the Debian maintainer has taken over that role in the absence of the original authors, as described in the changelog there. b. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
The depreciation is only for those ports that don't have public available distfiles right? So that I agree that broken ports should be excluded from this depreciation. That is the way it is done, anyway there still could be some false positive having people to doulble check is always good :) So yes, always give people chance to fix ports, not remove them from the tree. And, do we have a list of all maintainer-wanted ports, because that would be great if we have. Here you are :) http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=maintainermethod=exactquery=po...@freebsd.org Regards, Hai Lang regards, Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
2011/6/17 b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com: On 6/17/11, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: 2011/6/16 b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com: bapt wrote: I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Could you please explain how you are checking this? Just looking at some of the recent deprecations, graphics/peps, graphics/vcg, and graphics/xfig are still available. On earlier ones, graphics/libconvolve exists in the jack_convolve section of the heaven sourceforge project: Those are not deprecated but broken, broken because they don't fetch and they need someone to take care of it, to send the new master_site line for example, I don't have time enough to update/fix all the master_site lines from the whole ports tree, so I I see none of the said master_site provide the distfiles, it is marked as broken because that is what it is. Well, the build often isn't broken (and users don't notice that it is broken) because the distfile may be cached locally, or on the project servers, so this is more a matter of policy in many cases. But I take your point. I saw that you began doing this soon after you announced a deprecation campaign, so I wasn't sure if your were doing this a preliminary step, before deprecating them in the near future. ... http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gsmlib.html Debian having the package doesn't mean that they are the upstream. No, but in this case the Debian maintainer has taken over that role in the absence of the original authors, as described in the changelog there. b. Thanks for pointing this, but it still need a patch, because the distfile has change. Thanks. Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: The depreciation is only for those ports that don't have public available distfiles right? So that I agree that broken ports should be excluded from this depreciation. That is the way it is done, anyway there still could be some false positive having people to doulble check is always good :) Agreed, but I just feel like these ports should not be in the depreciation list at the first place. That's my point my I could be wrong. So yes, always give people chance to fix ports, not remove them from the tree. And, do we have a list of all maintainer-wanted ports, because that would be great if we have. Here you are :) http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=maintainermethod=exactquery=po...@freebsd.org What if we just put all un-maintained ports in this list instead of in the depreciation list? Regards, Hai Lang regards, Bapt Regards, Hai Lang___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com: bapt wrote: I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Could you please explain how you are checking this? Just looking at some of the recent deprecations, graphics/peps, graphics/vcg, and graphics/xfig are still available. On earlier ones, graphics/libconvolve exists in the jack_convolve section of the heaven sourceforge project: Those are not deprecated but broken, broken because they don't fetch and they need someone to take care of it, to send the new master_site line for example, I don't have time enough to update/fix all the master_site lines from the whole ports tree, so I I see none of the said master_site provide the distfiles, it is marked as broken because that is what it is. The depreciation is only for those ports that don't have public available distfiles right? So that I agree that broken ports should be excluded from this depreciation. http://sourceforge.net/projects/heaven/files/Audio%20Applications/Jack%20Related/jack_convolve/ security/libident is available via one of the main vlc developers at: http://www.remlab.net/files/libident/ comms/gsmlib is maintained by Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gsmlib.html Debian having the package doesn't mean that they are the upstream. science/bblimage has been renamed to pyvox and is available at: http://www.med.upenn.edu/bbl/downloads/pyvox/ That's eight false positives out of eleven deprecations that I selected by inspection, and I didn't spend more than two minutes checking any of them. Keep in mind that : deprecated != broken And those ports expecting for somone to look after them for a long time now it is done, then my process is good :) So yes, always give people chance to fix ports, not remove them from the tree. And, do we have a list of all maintainer-wanted ports, because that would be great if we have. I will fix the above. Thanks for a lot. b. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Regards, Hai Lang___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/17 Lang Hai freeal...@gmail.com: On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: The depreciation is only for those ports that don't have public available distfiles right? So that I agree that broken ports should be excluded from this depreciation. That is the way it is done, anyway there still could be some false positive having people to doulble check is always good :) Agreed, but I just feel like these ports should not be in the depreciation list at the first place. That's my point my I could be wrong. So yes, always give people chance to fix ports, not remove them from the tree. And, do we have a list of all maintainer-wanted ports, because that would be great if we have. Here you are :) http://www.freshports.org/search.php?stype=maintainermethod=exactquery=po...@freebsd.org What if we just put all un-maintained ports in this list instead of in the depreciation list? They already are in this list :) That is this list I'm trying to cleanup Oh, sorry for my misunderstanding and I will try to see whether I can save some ports from that list. Regards, Hai Lang regards, Bapt Regards, Hai Lang___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Regards, Hai Lang___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
One thing you can also do is to provide better deprecation message, recommending alternative/replacement for example, anything that would help users. regards, Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
2nd deprecation campaign
Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html -- Regards, Ruslan ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On 16 June 2011 18:24, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov cvs-...@yandex.ru wrote: 16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html Please would you send a patch to this effect? Perhaps you could use something like the method in java/jdk16. Chris ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
16.06.2011 21:54, Chris Rees пишет: On 16 June 2011 18:24, Ruslan Mahmatkhanovcvs-...@yandex.ru wrote: 16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html Please would you send a patch to this effect? Perhaps you could use something like the method in java/jdk16. Chris I'm not sure what you mean. The procedure is the same as for jdk16 - go to oracle download page, confirm license agreement, download distfile and place it to /usr/ports/distfiles as stated in port's Makefile: smeshariki2# make fetch === jai-imageio-1.0_2 you must manually fetch the Linux Install distribution (jai_imageio-1_0-lib-linux-i586.tar.gz) from http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html, place it in /usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jai-imageio. So it seems that any modification isn't required. -- Regards, Ruslan ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:24:42PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: 16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html That would be too easy :) Have you actually opened this page? For me, it is empty. As I have stated: I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. So, I still think the port is quite dead. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
16.06.2011 22:33, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:24:42PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: 16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html That would be too easy :) Have you actually opened this page? For me, it is empty. As I have stated: I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. So, I still think the port is quite dead. I just downloaded distfile using procedure mentioned before w/o any problems and place it into /usr/ports/distfiles: smeshariki2# make extract === License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE === Extracting for jai-imageio-1.0_2 = SHA256 Checksum OK for jai_imageio-1_0-lib-linux-i586.tar.gz. So it looks like your local problem. -- Regards, Ruslan ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
16.06.2011 19:05, Baptiste Daroussin пишет: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php devel/py-pyro isn't dead - latest release was 2011-06-01. New mainpage: http://irmen.home.xs4all.nl/pyro4/ Distfiles are now hosted on: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pyro4 I'm interested in maintaining of this port. -- Regards, Ruslan ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
2011/6/16 Ruslan Mahmatkhanov cvs-...@yandex.ru: 16.06.2011 19:05, Baptiste Daroussin пишет: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php devel/py-pyro isn't dead - latest release was 2011-06-01. New mainpage: http://irmen.home.xs4all.nl/pyro4/ Distfiles are now hosted on: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pyro4 I'm interested in maintaining of this port. -- Regards, Ruslan Thanks for volunteering, You are now maintainer. I'll let you patch/Test/send-pr for the necessary update, waiting for that the BROKEN remain. (Not that I knew it wasn't dead, I marked it broken not deprecated). regards, Bapt ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:38:34PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: 16.06.2011 22:33, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:24:42PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: 16.06.2011 20:45, Alexey Shuvaev пишет: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussinb...@freebsd.org: Hi all, I am in the middle of a new deprecation campaign, to remove ports where no more distfiles are publicly available (no other OS mirrors doesn't count except if they are the upstream of course). Maybe some will be false positive (I will try to not have too much of them). Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. Thanks, Bapt The list of deprecated ports can be find there: http://www.freshports.org/ports-expiration-date.php I think you can add java/jai-imageio to the list. I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. 0.02$, Alexey. It should be downloaded manually from here: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jai/downloads/download-iio.html That would be too easy :) Have you actually opened this page? For me, it is empty. As I have stated: I have not managed to find the distfile even google-ing. So, I still think the port is quite dead. I just downloaded distfile using procedure mentioned before w/o any problems and place it into /usr/ports/distfiles: smeshariki2# make extract === License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE === Extracting for jai-imageio-1.0_2 = SHA256 Checksum OK for jai_imageio-1_0-lib-linux-i586.tar.gz. So it looks like your local problem. Ok, examining the page source I have found the right download link. Seems Oracle is doing something that my seamonkey does not like :( The case is closed, java/jai_imageio is OK. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org: Hi all, ... Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. I've posted on the bsd-ham[1] list to see if anyone is using sattrack. I do note an earlier version is available on amsat.org. Other BSD users are on bsd-ham, so we'll see. [1] BSD-Ham mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/bsd-ham - Diane db@ -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db Why leave money to our children if we don't leave them the Earth? ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 2nd deprecation campaign
2011/6/16 Diane Bruce d...@db.net: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:05:31PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: 2011/6/16 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org: Hi all, ... Do not hesitate to manifest and undeprecate ports that would have deprecated by mistake. Even better do not hesitate to propose yourself to maintain them. I've posted on the bsd-ham[1] list to see if anyone is using sattrack. I do note an earlier version is available on amsat.org. Other BSD users are on bsd-ham, so we'll see. [1] BSD-Ham mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/bsd-ham - Diane db@ -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db Why leave money to our children if we don't leave them the Earth? Thanks ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org