Re: Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:59:00PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote:
 On Thu 25 Feb 2010 at 12:17:59 PST simp...@gmail.com wrote:
 News 2010 - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!
 
 I can't find it in the latest ports collection.
 
 Others have explained how to contact the maintainer of a port, and how
 to determine that it has no maintainer.
 
 But perhaps some expectation-setting is needed here.  
 
 Bluefish 2.0.0 was released a mere ten days ago.  Before it will appear
 in the ports collection, two things have to happen.
 
 First the maintainer must modify the port as needed to get it to compile
 on FreeBSD.  Sometimes that's trivially simple, sometimes it's
 diabolically complex.  If the port is depended upon by others, for
 example, there might be a need to coordinate the update with them.  So
 it's not unusual for the maintainer's part of the porting process to
 take several days or even weeks.

That's true - and yes, there are port updates that take weeks sometimes.
(although, well, some of *my* updates in the past have been known to
 take weeks for other reasons, not just the review and technical work)

 Second, after the maintainer has submitted a PR with the update, the
 committers need to test it. That takes time.  Also, judging by what I
 can see in the list of currently-open PR's, many committers always have
 a dozen or more in process.  It's not uncommon (or unreasonable) that
 this part of the porting process will take several days or even weeks in
 addition to the time the maintainer needed.

Well, in this particular case, the maintainer of www/bluefish is
a FreeBSD committer himself, so this part might take a bit less time :)
But in general, it's true enough.

G'luck,
Peter

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Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

2010-02-25 Thread simp...@gmail.com
News 2010 - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

I can't find it in the latest ports collection.
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Re: Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

2010-02-25 Thread Wesley Shields
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 09:17:59PM +0100, simp...@gmail.com wrote:
 News 2010 - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!
 
 I can't find it in the latest ports collection.

You're better off contacting the maintainer (sylvio@), unless the
maintainer is po...@freebsd.org (this mailing list). If the port is
maintained by po...@freebsd.org then it is effectively unmaintained and
you should look into adopting and updating it yourself.

-- WXS
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Re: Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

2010-02-25 Thread Koop Mast
On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 21:17 +0100, simp...@gmail.com wrote:
 News 2010 - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!
 
 I can't find it in the latest ports collection.

how about. ports/www/bluefish and notify the maintainer and ask if he
wants to update it?

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Re: Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

2010-02-25 Thread Charlie Kester

On Thu 25 Feb 2010 at 12:17:59 PST simp...@gmail.com wrote:

News 2010 - February 15 - Bluefish 2.0.0 released!

I can't find it in the latest ports collection.


Others have explained how to contact the maintainer of a port, and how
to determine that it has no maintainer.

But perhaps some expectation-setting is needed here.  


Bluefish 2.0.0 was released a mere ten days ago.  Before it will appear
in the ports collection, two things have to happen.

First the maintainer must modify the port as needed to get it to compile
on FreeBSD.  Sometimes that's trivially simple, sometimes it's
diabolically complex.  If the port is depended upon by others, for
example, there might be a need to coordinate the update with them.  So
it's not unusual for the maintainer's part of the porting process to
take several days or even weeks.

Second, after the maintainer has submitted a PR with the update, the
committers need to test it. That takes time.  Also, judging by what I
can see in the list of currently-open PR's, many committers always have
a dozen or more in process.  It's not uncommon (or unreasonable) that
this part of the porting process will take several days or even weeks in
addition to the time the maintainer needed.


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