Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
On 1 August 2017 at 08:16, Morse, Richard E.,MGH wrote: > On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote: >> >> Here's a quick run down on the change: >> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/52871/ >> >> The portconf features have been baked into the ports system, and you >> can set/unset options within /etc/make.conf, eg: >> >> graphics_atril_SET=DVI T1LIB >> mail_thunderbird_UNSET= PULSEAUDIO > > Out of curiosity, is there a global way to disable X11 (say) in this? Is that > documented anywhere? > > In portconf, I was able to add a line: > > *: WITHOUT_X11=“YES” > > and it would (hopefully) suppress X11. Do I need to add > > port_UNSET= X11 > > for every port that will get installed? Try: OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 Multiple options can also be set, eg: OPTIONS_UNSET= X11 NLS DOCS Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > Here's a quick run down on the change: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/52871/ > > The portconf features have been baked into the ports system, and you > can set/unset options within /etc/make.conf, eg: > > graphics_atril_SET=DVI T1LIB > mail_thunderbird_UNSET= PULSEAUDIO Out of curiosity, is there a global way to disable X11 (say) in this? Is that documented anywhere? In portconf, I was able to add a line: *: WITHOUT_X11=“YES” and it would (hopefully) suppress X11. Do I need to add port_UNSET= X11 for every port that will get installed? Ricky The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
On 1 August 2017 at 07:50, Morse, Richard E.,MGH wrote: > Hi! I used to use portconf on the machine this is going to be replacing, but > it seemed like there were changes to the way the port system worked between > 8.4 and 11, and I couldn’t find anything that documented how to properly set > up portconf for the new “options” stuff, in place of the old “WITH/WITHOUT” > stuff. Can you recommend somewhere I can find that out? > Here's a quick run down on the change: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/52871/ The portconf features have been baked into the ports system, and you can set/unset options within /etc/make.conf, eg: graphics_atril_SET=DVI T1LIB mail_thunderbird_UNSET= PULSEAUDIO Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
Hi! I used to use portconf on the machine this is going to be replacing, but it seemed like there were changes to the way the port system worked between 8.4 and 11, and I couldn’t find anything that documented how to properly set up portconf for the new “options” stuff, in place of the old “WITH/WITHOUT” stuff. Can you recommend somewhere I can find that out? Thanks, Ricky > On Jul 27, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Dewayne Geraghty > wrote: > > Richard, > I'm unsure of how you're planning on using the information, perhaps > these suggestions may help: > > To examine what options are available, chosen or rejected (note: the > value of CATEGORY and PORT must be in lowercase): > make -C /usr/ports/$CATEGORY/$PORT -VPORT_OPTIONS -VSELECTED_OPTIONS > -VDESELECTED_OPTIONS > > If you're after consistency, then I would suggest that you use > /etc/make.conf to ascribe the options that you want for each of the ports. > > For example, using mail/dovecot2: > mail_dovecot2_SET=LZ4 KQUEUE SSL > mail_dovecot2_UNSET=BDB PGSQL > > I'll reiterate that I don't interactively set port options on anything, > so no "make config". I use a tool called ports-mgmt/portconf to manage > my ports. I can't recommend the tool as I do some preprocessing to align > with port devs requirements, currently > $CATEGORY_$PORT_[SET|UNSET]= > if in /etc/make.conf or on the command line by > [WITH|WITHOUT]= > > Enjoy. > Dewayne The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
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Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
from Kevin Oberman: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Morse, Richard E.,MGH < > remo...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > > Hi! Iâm trying to document the setup of a new system, and Iâm finding it > > really complicated to document exactly which options I choose for various > > ports. > > I was wondering if there is some magic command-line syntax, (ideally to > > postmaster) that would let me document the options selected in the form of > > a command â something like: > > postmaster editors/vim -o NOLUA,NOPYTHON,NORUBY,CONSOLE,NOGNOME > > (to indicate the changes from the default settings; I would be fine if I > > had to specify every option, I suppose, but ideally only ones that > > changedâ¦) > > Thanks, > > Ricky > Short answer is "no". because the ports system always remembers teh chosen > configuration for any port and that is stored in the pkg database, I am not > aware of any tool that allows setting of options from the command line. > That said, it is certainly possible and does not look difficult to > implement. It would probably be both easiest and more supportable to set > the options in the command line into the DB. Of course, '-o' is already in > use, so that would net be available. > More difficult to deal with is the issue of default options. Frankly, that > is not an issue that is really handled at all well with any of the current > tools and periodically bites my in the ass. Clearly, requiring all options > to e listed on the command line is not workable. (Just look at the list of > options on some multimedia ports.) So the assumption is that the command > line only specifies variations from defaults, but that does not address how > to deal with changes in defaults or with deleted options. I don't have > obvious answers on this. Do you? It's certainly not trivial. > As a non-answer to your question, maybe a dump of the current options. That > could easily be added to most any tool ad it is a one-line command. > make -C PORT_PATH showconfig > where "PORT_PATH" is the path to the port, e.g. > /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. It could easily in a simple wrapper around > some other command such as portmaster. > Maybe someone else has a better idea, but it does not look at all simple to > me. NetBSD with pkgsrc, and Gentoo portage have no options dialog; options are put in mk.conf or make.conf : much easier to deal with. Dialog4ports is a big improvement over the old options dialog which generally messed up the screen. I had to, and still have to, run "make config-recursive" several times because something new would show up on the second run and possibly further runs of "make config-recursive". It's nice to have something like PKG_DEFAULT_OPTIONS+= ssl inet6 nls ncurses pcre gtk3 x11 fftw esound cups sndfile and PKG_OPTIONS.msmtp+= idn PKG_OPTIONS.w3m+= w3m-image-gtk2 PKG_OPTIONS.gcc-aux+= testsuite or USE= ... in Gentoo with portage. Is there any way to achieve something like that with FreeBSD using ports? It would be a big nuisance to have to put all nondefault options on the command line with portmaster, and a bigger nuisance when building or updating many ports with a single portmaster command. Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
Oops. I forgot to mention that you would use portmaster this way /usr/local/sbin/portmaster -m "commands to pass" $CATEGORY/$PORT which I use for other tasks, as explained earlier. For example portmaster -m 'WITH="SQLITE LDAP" WITHOUT="DIGEST IPV6"' $CAT/$PORT Note: -m "" can not be issued multiple times on the command line. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
Richard, I'm unsure of how you're planning on using the information, perhaps these suggestions may help: To examine what options are available, chosen or rejected (note: the value of CATEGORY and PORT must be in lowercase): make -C /usr/ports/$CATEGORY/$PORT -VPORT_OPTIONS -VSELECTED_OPTIONS -VDESELECTED_OPTIONS If you're after consistency, then I would suggest that you use /etc/make.conf to ascribe the options that you want for each of the ports. For example, using mail/dovecot2: mail_dovecot2_SET=LZ4 KQUEUE SSL mail_dovecot2_UNSET=BDB PGSQL I'll reiterate that I don't interactively set port options on anything, so no "make config". I use a tool called ports-mgmt/portconf to manage my ports. I can't recommend the tool as I do some preprocessing to align with port devs requirements, currently $CATEGORY_$PORT_[SET|UNSET]= if in /etc/make.conf or on the command line by [WITH|WITHOUT]= Enjoy. Dewayne ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Morse, Richard E.,MGH < remo...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > Hi! I’m trying to document the setup of a new system, and I’m finding it > really complicated to document exactly which options I choose for various > ports. > > I was wondering if there is some magic command-line syntax, (ideally to > postmaster) that would let me document the options selected in the form of > a command — something like: > > postmaster editors/vim -o NOLUA,NOPYTHON,NORUBY,CONSOLE,NOGNOME > > (to indicate the changes from the default settings; I would be fine if I > had to specify every option, I suppose, but ideally only ones that changed…) > > Thanks, > Ricky > > Short answer is "no". because the ports system always remembers teh chosen configuration for any port and that is stored in the pkg database, I am not aware of any tool that allows setting of options from the command line. That said, it is certainly possible and does not look difficult to implement. It would probably be both easiest and more supportable to set the options in the command line into the DB. Of course, '-o' is already in use, so that would net be available. More difficult to deal with is the issue of default options. Frankly, that is not an issue that is really handled at all well with any of the current tools and periodically bites my in the ass. Clearly, requiring all options to e listed on the command line is not workable. (Just look at the list of options on some multimedia ports.) So the assumption is that the command line only specifies variations from defaults, but that does not address how to deal with changes in defaults or with deleted options. I don't have obvious answers on this. Do you? It's certainly not trivial. As a non-answer to your question, maybe a dump of the current options. That could easily be added to most any tool ad it is a one-line command. make -C PORT_PATH showconfig where "PORT_PATH" is the path to the port, e.g. /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg. It could easily in a simple wrapper around some other command such as portmaster. Maybe someone else has a better idea, but it does not look at all simple to me. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Configuring options/knobs without `make config`
Hi! I’m trying to document the setup of a new system, and I’m finding it really complicated to document exactly which options I choose for various ports. I was wondering if there is some magic command-line syntax, (ideally to postmaster) that would let me document the options selected in the form of a command — something like: postmaster editors/vim -o NOLUA,NOPYTHON,NORUBY,CONSOLE,NOGNOME (to indicate the changes from the default settings; I would be fine if I had to specify every option, I suppose, but ideally only ones that changed…) Thanks, Ricky The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
