Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-29 Thread Matthieu Volat 
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:53:10 +0300
abi  wrote:

> On 29.01.2017 05:10, Jan Beich wrote:
> > Mike Clarke  writes:
> >
> >> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:51 +
> >> Grzegorz Junka  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 28/01/2017 11:37, Tobias Kortkamp wrote:
>  On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> > Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when
> > ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either
> > case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for
> > this to work?
>  Is sndiod running?  If not:
> 
>    sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
>    service sndiod start
> 
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Tobias. That helped. Out of interest. Is there any reason why I
> >>> should prefer either SNDIO, PUlSEAUDIO or ALSA?
> >>
> >> This currently creates a problem for those of us using Firefox from
> >> packages because the default build has SNDIO turned off.
> >>
> >> $ pkg info firefox
> > [...]
> >>  ALSA   : on
> > [...]
> >>  PULSEAUDIO : on
> > [...]
> >>  SNDIO  : off
> >
> > Only backends that support lazy bindings are enabled by default i.e.,
> > try PULSEAUDIO, if N/A fallback to ALSA, if N/A fallback to native OSS.
> > SNDIO has lower priority than ALSA in libcubeb but higher in WebRTC and
> > cannot fallback to native OSS as well. SNDIO currently doesn't work
> > inside jail and neither sndiod nor Firefox support Capsicum sandboxing,
> > so falling back to ALSA (or OSS) is important.
> 
> Why OSS is not added to port options? OSS is that, probably, all of us have.

I was about the bring the subject, obviously there is no OSS support in firefox 
yet (!!!), but there is an ongoing work on mozilla's bugzilla:

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1021761

Did somebody tried to streamline/backport it? With firefox-esr, the latest 
version do not apply, and I've issue autoreconf-ing after applying previous 
versions...

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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-29 Thread abi 



On 29.01.2017 05:10, Jan Beich wrote:

Mike Clarke  writes:


On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:51 +
Grzegorz Junka  wrote:


On 28/01/2017 11:37, Tobias Kortkamp wrote:

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:

Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when
ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either
case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for
this to work?

Is sndiod running?  If not:

  sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
  service sndiod start



Thanks Tobias. That helped. Out of interest. Is there any reason why I
should prefer either SNDIO, PUlSEAUDIO or ALSA?


This currently creates a problem for those of us using Firefox from
packages because the default build has SNDIO turned off.

$ pkg info firefox

[...]

 ALSA   : on

[...]

 PULSEAUDIO : on

[...]

 SNDIO  : off


Only backends that support lazy bindings are enabled by default i.e.,
try PULSEAUDIO, if N/A fallback to ALSA, if N/A fallback to native OSS.
SNDIO has lower priority than ALSA in libcubeb but higher in WebRTC and
cannot fallback to native OSS as well. SNDIO currently doesn't work
inside jail and neither sndiod nor Firefox support Capsicum sandboxing,
so falling back to ALSA (or OSS) is important.


Why OSS is not added to port options? OSS is that, probably, all of us have.
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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Jan Beich 
Mike Clarke  writes:

> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:51 +
> Grzegorz Junka  wrote:
>
>> On 28/01/2017 11:37, Tobias Kortkamp wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:  
>> >> Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when
>> >> ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either
>> >> case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for
>> >> this to work?  
>> > Is sndiod running?  If not:
>> >
>> >  sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
>> >  service sndiod start
>> >  
>> 
>> Thanks Tobias. That helped. Out of interest. Is there any reason why I 
>> should prefer either SNDIO, PUlSEAUDIO or ALSA?
>
> This currently creates a problem for those of us using Firefox from
> packages because the default build has SNDIO turned off.
>
> $ pkg info firefox
[...]
> ALSA   : on
[...]
> PULSEAUDIO : on
[...]
> SNDIO  : off

Only backends that support lazy bindings are enabled by default i.e.,
try PULSEAUDIO, if N/A fallback to ALSA, if N/A fallback to native OSS.
SNDIO has lower priority than ALSA in libcubeb but higher in WebRTC and
cannot fallback to native OSS as well. SNDIO currently doesn't work
inside jail and neither sndiod nor Firefox support Capsicum sandboxing,
so falling back to ALSA (or OSS) is important.

As Firefox lacks a preference to force a specific audio backend if many
are available we're stuck juggling dlopen(3) priorities e.g., SNDIO can
be tried before PULSEAUDIO but after JACK, then ALSA, then OSS.
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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Mike Clarke 
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:51 +
Grzegorz Junka  wrote:

> On 28/01/2017 11:37, Tobias Kortkamp wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:  
> >> Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when
> >> ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either
> >> case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for
> >> this to work?  
> > Is sndiod running?  If not:
> >
> >  sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
> >  service sndiod start
> >  
> 
> Thanks Tobias. That helped. Out of interest. Is there any reason why I 
> should prefer either SNDIO, PUlSEAUDIO or ALSA?

This currently creates a problem for those of us using Firefox from
packages because the default build has SNDIO turned off.

$ pkg info firefox
firefox-51.0_2,1
Name   : firefox
Version: 51.0_2,1
Installed on   : Sat Jan 28 09:32:22 2017 GMT
Origin : www/firefox
Architecture   : freebsd:11:x86:64
Prefix : /usr/local
Categories : ipv6 www
Licenses   : 
Maintainer : ge...@freebsd.org
WWW: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox
Comment: Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
Options:
ALSA   : on
BUNDLED_CAIRO  : on
CANBERRA   : off
DBUS   : on
DEBUG  : off
DTRACE : on
FFMPEG : on
GCONF  : off
GNOMEUI: off
GTK2   : off
GTK3   : on
INTEGER_SAMPLES: off
LIBPROXY   : off
OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS: on
PGO: off
PROFILE: off
PULSEAUDIO : on
RUST   : on
SNDIO  : off
TEST   : off

[snip]

Annotations:
cpe:
cpe:2.3:a:mozilla:firefox:51.0:freebsd11:x64:2 no_provide_shlib: yes
repo_type  : binary
repository : FreeBSD


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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Tobias Kortkamp 
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 16:08, Marco Beishuizen wrote:
> Works fine here with SNDIO enabled and ALSA/PULSEAUDIO disabled (with an 
> Audigy2, emu10kx driver in kernel). I don't have an sndiod running.

Good to know, but if no sndiod is running then libsndio will
default to /dev/dsp0 instead of using whatever you set in
hw.snd.default_unit.  The rc script takes that into account and
looks at the sysctl and starts the daemon with the correct flags.
It's no surprise when it doesn't work out of the box for some
people.

Another caveat is that you will not get any application level
volume control without a running daemon.

There is maybe an upcoming patch to change this, but I still
recommend you run sndiod for now.
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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Marco Beishuizen 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, the wise Grzegorz Junka wrote:

Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when 
ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either 
case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for 
this to work?


Works fine here with SNDIO enabled and ALSA/PULSEAUDIO disabled (with an 
Audigy2, emu10kx driver in kernel). I don't have an sndiod running.


Regards,
Marco
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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Grzegorz Junka 


On 28/01/2017 11:37, Tobias Kortkamp wrote:

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:

Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when
ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either
case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for
this to work?

Is sndiod running?  If not:

 sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
 service sndiod start



Thanks Tobias. That helped. Out of interest. Is there any reason why I 
should prefer either SNDIO, PUlSEAUDIO or ALSA?


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Re: Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Tobias Kortkamp 
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, at 11:23, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when 
> ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either 
> case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for 
> this to work?

Is sndiod running?  If not:

sysrc sndiod_enable=YES
service sndiod start
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Firefox and sndio

2017-01-28 Thread Grzegorz Junka 
Audio in Firefox seems to be working fine when ALSA is enabled. But when 
ALSA is disabled and only SNDIO is enabled there is no sound. In either 
case I had PULSEAUDIO disabled. What's the expected configuration for 
this to work?


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