Re: Found CONFLICTS: ...
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 02:17:43AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that CONFLICTS is a cure with worse effects than the disease. Well, then you may cut off this cure by defining DISABLE_CONFLICTS. This is indeed the solution i came to in: http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/freebsdports.html -- Michel TALON ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Found CONFLICTS: teTeX-base/texinfo emacs/texinfo open-motif/tcl84 coreutils/firebird2-server
Playing a little with /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENTS, I found some CONFLICTS, for example: pkg_info: both coreutils-6.9_3 and firebird-server-2.0.3_2 claim to have installed /usr/local/bin/gstat pkg_info: both teTeX-base-3.0_14 and texinfo-4.11 claim to have installed /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi pkg_info: both teTeX-base-3.0_14 and texinfo-4.11 claim to have installed /usr/local/bin/texi2pdf pkg_info: both emacs-22.2_1 and texinfo-4.11 claim to have installed /usr/local/info/info.info pkg_info: both open-motif-2.2.3_5 and tcl-8.4.19,1 claim to have installed /usr/local/man/man3/Object.3.gz CONFLICTS could be introduced for: sysutils/coreutils and databases/firebird2-server print/teTeX-base and print/texinfo editors/emacs and print/texinfo x11-toolkits/open-motif and lang/tcl84 Anyhow, this would break a few things -- at least: math/maxima depends on x11-toolkits/open-motif and lang/tcl84 print/lilypond builddepends on print/teTeX-base and print/texinfo I think I have found more in my installed packages, especially with links. Before I investigate them, I wonder if it is worse it: Should all CONFLICTS be documented? Should I report my findings to the maintainers (directly)? Cheers, Jan Henrik ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Found CONFLICTS: ...
Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: Should all CONFLICTS be documented? I think CONFLICTS should be treated by ignoring them completely. They cause no end of troubles in Debian, for very little if any usefulness. What is the problem if you install texi2dvi one way or another? -- Michel TALON ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Found CONFLICTS: ...
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: Should all CONFLICTS be documented? I think CONFLICTS should be treated by ignoring them completely. They cause no end of troubles in Debian, for very little if any usefulness. What is the problem if you install texi2dvi one way or another? There are several problems: 1. These two texi2dvi programs might have a different set of arguments, that other programs rely on. 2. When upgrading the ports, which port is the one that installed texi2dvi, as the last port upgraded has it's texi2dvi installed. 3. When removing either teTeX-base-3.0_14 or texinfo-4.11, it has the unwanted side effect of also removing /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi from the system, which may affect the operation of one of the other programs that relies on texi2dvi. These same problems also applies to libraries, config files, man pages, and other documentation. Scot ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Found CONFLICTS: ...
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 04:24:46PM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: Should all CONFLICTS be documented? I think CONFLICTS should be treated by ignoring them completely. They cause no end of troubles in Debian, for very little if any usefulness. What is the problem if you install texi2dvi one way or another? There are several problems: 1. These two texi2dvi programs might have a different set of arguments, that other programs rely on. 2. When upgrading the ports, which port is the one that installed texi2dvi, as the last port upgraded has it's texi2dvi installed. 3. When removing either teTeX-base-3.0_14 or texinfo-4.11, it has the unwanted side effect of also removing /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi from the system, which may affect the operation of one of the other programs that relies on texi2dvi. These same problems also applies to libraries, config files, man pages, and other documentation. Scot Of course, but all these problems are far less annoying than the problems coming from overzealous CONFLICTS notifications, which can completely ruin your mental health. After all, if some program goes astray after having removed some apparently unrelated port, the simple solution is to reinstall this program, and its dependencies. Problem is almost a non problem. Of course the good solution is that ports developers try to avoid conflicts by choosing appropriate names, but in general this would require considerable work, or install everything in its own directory and use symlinks in public directories (/usr/local/bin,etc.) like Debian does, which promptly creates a terrible mess. I think that CONFLICTS is a cure with worse effects than the disease. -- Michel TALON ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Found CONFLICTS: ...
Michel Talon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that CONFLICTS is a cure with worse effects than the disease. Well, then you may cut off this cure by defining DISABLE_CONFLICTS. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
