Re: FreeBSD Port: bacula-client-3.0.0_1

2009-05-05 Thread Dan Langille
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Michael Hughes wrote:
 Have you raised this issue on the bacula users mailing list?  If so,
 what is the URL into the archives so we can investigate.
 
 In response to your question, I have raised the issue on the bacula-users 
 mailing list, although I
 haven't had any responses yet. I came to the conclusion about the client and 
 director
 incompatibility through our own testing and a couple forum threads I found 
 web searching.
 
 We upgraded the bacula client port which upgraded the bacula-fd daemon 
 running from 2.4.4 to 3.0.1.
 No configuration files were changed, and backups ran properly prior to the 
 port upgrade. I have
 checked the obvious, such as the port being closed by a firewall or the 
 network interface not being
 up. Which left me testing for incompatibilities between the director and 
 client because of the major
 version number change.

I suspect you've seen the reply.  In short: don't do that.  The service
component can be used with older clients, but not newer clients with
older servers.

The solution is to use the 2.4.4 client, from ports.  Yes, you'll have
to use 'magic' to get a 2.4.4 client from ports.  Others can help you
figure out how to get a snapshot of the FreeBSD ports tree to get that
version.

 I did find these related threads in the bacula-users archive
 http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg34494.html
 and
 http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg34494.html

Those two links are identical.  :)

The answer in that link sums it up: You cannot use a version X client
with anything *LESS* than a version X server.

In general, the project strives to allow you to upgrade the server
without upgrading the client.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: bacula-client-3.0.0_1

2009-05-04 Thread Michael Hughes
 Have you raised this issue on the bacula users mailing list?  If so,
 what is the URL into the archives so we can investigate.

In response to your question, I have raised the issue on the bacula-users 
mailing list, although I
haven't had any responses yet. I came to the conclusion about the client and 
director
incompatibility through our own testing and a couple forum threads I found web 
searching.

We upgraded the bacula client port which upgraded the bacula-fd daemon running 
from 2.4.4 to 3.0.1.
No configuration files were changed, and backups ran properly prior to the port 
upgrade. I have
checked the obvious, such as the port being closed by a firewall or the network 
interface not being
up. Which left me testing for incompatibilities between the director and client 
because of the major
version number change.

I did find these related threads in the bacula-users archive
http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg34494.html
and
http://www.mail-archive.com/bacula-us...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg34494.html

Michael Hughes
SSLI/MTML Labs
Student System Administrator
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FreeBSD Port: bacula-client-3.0.0_1

2009-05-01 Thread Michael Hughes
Where did the 2.x series ports go? We currently use bacula-dir v. 2.4.4
on a linux host to backup our fbsd file servers, but some web research
and our own testing on our fbsd test file server found that
bacula-client v. 3.x is completely incompatible with bacula-dir  2.5.x.
Currently our production file servers have the bacula-client v. 2.4.4
port installed, but we would like to be able to port upgrade them and
still maintain a 2.4.x series bacula-client.

I have searched through the cvs commits using the online FreeBSD ports
search tool, but I found that there is a version jump from bacula-client
v. 1.38.x to version 3.x. Yet, we originally installed the 2.4.4 client
on our fbsd file servers using a port, so clearly at some point there
was a 2.4.4 port.

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SSLI/MTML Labs
Student System Administrator

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Re: FreeBSD Port: bacula-client-3.0.0_1

2009-05-01 Thread Dan Langille
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Michael Hughes wrote:
 Where did the 2.x series ports go? We currently use bacula-dir v. 2.4.4
 on a linux host to backup our fbsd file servers, but some web research
 and our own testing on our fbsd test file server found that
 bacula-client v. 3.x is completely incompatible with bacula-dir  2.5.x.

Have you raised this issue on the bacula users mailing list?  If so,
what is the URL into the archives so we can investigate.

 Currently our production file servers have the bacula-client v. 2.4.4
 port installed, but we would like to be able to port upgrade them and
 still maintain a 2.4.x series bacula-client.

I'm sure that's possible, not trivial, but possible.

 I have searched through the cvs commits using the online FreeBSD ports
 search tool, but I found that there is a version jump from bacula-client
 v. 1.38.x to version 3.x. Yet, we originally installed the 2.4.4 client
 on our fbsd file servers using a port, so clearly at some point there
 was a 2.4.4 port.

bacula-client is a slave port of bacula-server.  Thus, changes to
baucla-client version numbers can be gleaned from  bacula-server.

If you need the 2.x branch, get it from CVS.  You'll need both the slave
and the master.

Perhaps a 2.x port is a good idea.  A PR would be useful.  And perhaps a
repo copy.

I'd love to help, but I'm busy until the end of May.

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Re: FreeBSD Port: bacula-client-3.0.0_1

2009-05-01 Thread Wesley Shields
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 04:17:10PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
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 Michael Hughes wrote:
  Where did the 2.x series ports go? We currently use bacula-dir v. 2.4.4
  on a linux host to backup our fbsd file servers, but some web research
  and our own testing on our fbsd test file server found that
  bacula-client v. 3.x is completely incompatible with bacula-dir  2.5.x.
 
 Have you raised this issue on the bacula users mailing list?  If so,
 what is the URL into the archives so we can investigate.
 
  Currently our production file servers have the bacula-client v. 2.4.4
  port installed, but we would like to be able to port upgrade them and
  still maintain a 2.4.x series bacula-client.
 
 I'm sure that's possible, not trivial, but possible.
 
  I have searched through the cvs commits using the online FreeBSD ports
  search tool, but I found that there is a version jump from bacula-client
  v. 1.38.x to version 3.x. Yet, we originally installed the 2.4.4 client
  on our fbsd file servers using a port, so clearly at some point there
  was a 2.4.4 port.
 
 bacula-client is a slave port of bacula-server.  Thus, changes to
 baucla-client version numbers can be gleaned from  bacula-server.

sysutils/bacula-server is currently 3.0.0 and
sysutils/bacula-server-devel is 2.5.42.b2.

 If you need the 2.x branch, get it from CVS.  You'll need both the slave
 and the master.

The latest in the 2.x line of development is actually in
bacula-server-devel right now.

 Perhaps a 2.x port is a good idea.  A PR would be useful.  And perhaps a
 repo copy.

The versions are backwards for now, but I imagine -devel will be updated
in the future to be the latest development release. At that time we can
prepare the bacula2 ports which will track the 2.x line of development.

-- WXS
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