Re: How do you require Xorg?
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:25 AM +1100 Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. How do you ensure that the port doesn't get installed unless Xorg is installed? Will USE_XORG= yes do the trick? Paul, I don't think it is a good idea to use this Knob as the open-vm-tools may be useful for machines which don't have Xorg installed as well. For example if vmotion etc. works with this set of tools then it will definitely be handy for FreeBSD VM's which do not use Xorg. OK. Here's where I'm at. I've got a basic port started. I created an option for no X. The default is no, so the port would build with X as the default build. There's some problems with the kernel modules, and I would need help from a programmer to figure those problems out. Really, someone needs to work with the open-vm-tools developers to update their kernel modules to work both with previous versions of FreeBSD (which they claim they already work with) and with version 7.0. (So, some ifdefs would be needed.) Is there enough demand for the userland tools that I should go ahead and submit the port without the kernel modules working? I could create an option for them and mark it as not working right now. (Obviously they would need to be an option working or not.) Should I make no X the default install? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ Paul, Awesome work with all of this, if you can put a tarball of the existing port you have done so I can test with it that would be great. I can do some testing against ESX Server to see what effects it has on Vmotion and HA and the like and report back. Terry signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How do you require Xorg?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:25 AM +1100 Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. How do you ensure that the port doesn't get installed unless Xorg is installed? Will USE_XORG= yes do the trick? Paul, I don't think it is a good idea to use this Knob as the open-vm-tools may be useful for machines which don't have Xorg installed as well. For example if vmotion etc. works with this set of tools then it will definitely be handy for FreeBSD VM's which do not use Xorg. OK. Here's where I'm at. I've got a basic port started. I created an option for no X. The default is no, so the port would build with X as the default build. There's some problems with the kernel modules, and I would need help from a programmer to figure those problems out. Really, someone needs to work with the open-vm-tools developers to update their kernel modules to work both with previous versions of FreeBSD (which they claim they already work with) and with version 7.0. (So, some ifdefs would be needed.) Is there enough demand for the userland tools that I should go ahead and submit the port without the kernel modules working? I could create an option for them and mark it as not working right now. (Obviously they would need to be an option working or not.) Should I make no X the default install? You can always make a slave port which defaults to X being on and have X be off in the master port, if there is enough demand for that configuration. That way packages will be built for both. -- WXS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
--On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 18:53:39 +1100 Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome work with all of this, if you can put a tarball of the existing port you have done so I can test with it that would be great. I can do some testing against ESX Server to see what effects it has on Vmotion and HA and the like and report back. Not so fast. Last night I discovered that, while the port compiles and builds just fine, the binaries it produces all core dump. Apparently 7.0 has changed so drastically that major work needs to be done on the code to get the binaries working again. I am not capable of doing that work. I could submit the port for 6.0 and earlier, but I have no machines to test it on. Pkg-plist isn't done. The installation bits aren't done except for the libraries. So, unless you know how to create ports yourself, what I have so far wouldn't do you any good at all. I thought this was going to be fairly easy, but this software is extremely Linux-centric and needs an experience FreeBSD programmer to get it working in 7.0 I'm wondering now if it might be easier to just build it under Linux emulation. Any thoughts? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
--On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 08:10:54 -0400 Wesley Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I make no X the default install? You can always make a slave port which defaults to X being on and have X be off in the master port, if there is enough demand for that configuration. That way packages will be built for both. Thanks, Wesley, I didn't realize that using the slave port method would result in two packages rather than one. Good to know. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:09:13 -0500, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. How do you ensure that the port doesn't get installed unless Xorg is installed? Will USE_XORG= yes do the trick? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/using-x11.html Cheers, Mezz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. The Xorg components should, if possible, be optional, IMO. Anyway, thanks for working on this. Have you looked at the NetBSD implementation as reference? http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/open-vm-tools -- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints... Mark D. Foster, CISSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mark.foster.cc/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
--On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 09:27:34 -0700 Mark Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Xorg components should, if possible, be optional, IMO. Anyway, thanks for working on this. Have you looked at the NetBSD implementation as reference? http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/open-vm-tools No, I had not. Thanks for the tip. They have a number of build depends as well as run depends. My problem is that I already have Xorg 7.3 installed, so the software builds fine without requiring anything additional, and there's no documentation (that I can find) that tells you what software is required to build the package. But it looks like I should add those build and run depends to the Makefile for the port, right? Also, I just discovered that only one of the kernel modules builds correctly. The other three fail. This is looking more complex than my meager skills can solve. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
--On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 13:46:27 -0400 Wesley Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10:15PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 09:27:34 -0700 Mark Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Xorg components should, if possible, be optional, IMO. Anyway, thanks for working on this. Have you looked at the NetBSD implementation as reference? http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/open-vm-tools No, I had not. Thanks for the tip. They have a number of build depends as well as run depends. My problem is that I already have Xorg 7.3 installed, so the software builds fine without requiring anything additional, and there's no documentation (that I can find) that tells you what software is required to build the package. But it looks like I should add those build and run depends to the Makefile for the port, right? I've found ports-mgmt/tinderbox to be great for doing build-testing of a port. Might be helpful for you also. Thanks for the tip. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10:15PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 09:27:34 -0700 Mark Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Xorg components should, if possible, be optional, IMO. Anyway, thanks for working on this. Have you looked at the NetBSD implementation as reference? http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/open-vm-tools No, I had not. Thanks for the tip. They have a number of build depends as well as run depends. My problem is that I already have Xorg 7.3 installed, so the software builds fine without requiring anything additional, and there's no documentation (that I can find) that tells you what software is required to build the package. But it looks like I should add those build and run depends to the Makefile for the port, right? I've found ports-mgmt/tinderbox to be great for doing build-testing of a port. Might be helpful for you also. -- WXS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you require Xorg?
Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. How do you ensure that the port doesn't get installed unless Xorg is installed? Will USE_XORG= yes do the trick? Paul, I don't think it is a good idea to use this Knob as the open-vm-tools may be useful for machines which don't have Xorg installed as well. For example if vmotion etc. works with this set of tools then it will definitely be handy for FreeBSD VM's which do not use Xorg. Terry signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How do you require Xorg?
--On Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:25 AM +1100 Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: I'm working on porting the open-vm-tools, and the software builds, makes and installs fine, but it obviously won't work without Xorg being installed. How do you ensure that the port doesn't get installed unless Xorg is installed? Will USE_XORG= yes do the trick? Paul, I don't think it is a good idea to use this Knob as the open-vm-tools may be useful for machines which don't have Xorg installed as well. For example if vmotion etc. works with this set of tools then it will definitely be handy for FreeBSD VM's which do not use Xorg. OK. Here's where I'm at. I've got a basic port started. I created an option for no X. The default is no, so the port would build with X as the default build. There's some problems with the kernel modules, and I would need help from a programmer to figure those problems out. Really, someone needs to work with the open-vm-tools developers to update their kernel modules to work both with previous versions of FreeBSD (which they claim they already work with) and with version 7.0. (So, some ifdefs would be needed.) Is there enough demand for the userland tools that I should go ahead and submit the port without the kernel modules working? I could create an option for them and mark it as not working right now. (Obviously they would need to be an option working or not.) Should I make no X the default install? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
