Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Rezny
 https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x
 
 The process has been started :
 http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39t=44691
 
 Dependencies needed- referenced in howto and webrtc dependencies:
 libbrlapi from brltty.
 
 
 Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for
 FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs.
 Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting
 down on hardware resource use.
 Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run
 Skype or other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu,
 et cetera, et al.
 
 Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its
 OS, WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the
 platform/console thus allowing users to communicater in real time
 while gaming.
 
Sony surely has a voice and video chat system in mind, one that is not
inter-operable with anything that doesn't bear the PlayStation brand.
 
 Why am I proposing this?
 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring
 his proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase.
 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating
 systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with
 each other.

Limit only exists for closed networks. Don't use Skype, don't need
Linuxulator.

 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the
 community another window into the development of FreeBSD.
 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact
 develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based
 system.

Both are easily accomplished with SIP, which is an existing widely-
deployed standard. Nearly all relevant platforms have at least a few
SIP clients, with voice and video support, to choose from. Some clients
also support encryption to secure your communications. There are quite
a few available in FreeBSD ports.

 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the
 development of WebRTC sources.
 
I can't speak for all, but my feedback for WebRTC is expressed by
trying as hard as possible to ignore it while blissfully using SIP for
my non-textual communication needs. It is a simple matter of the web
guys intentionally ignoring the existence of all else so they could
have another great solution to a problem that doesn't exist within
the domain of document viewer. The web browser is not a good place to
do so, but if they want to take on chat in the browser, they could have
simply adopted the SIP protocol, and maybe also SIMPLE protocol for
text chat at the same time.

Instead they invent their own, not because they had to but because they
chose to. All the large companies developing one of the web browsers
with significant market share are receiving significant income from
advertising. The more time they get you to spend in the browser, the
more ads you might see. The more tasks a browser takes on, appropriate
or not, the more time you are likely to spend in the browser, seeing
the ads. At best, a native client would only be a distraction that
would draw developer attention which could be better spent continuing to
improve SIP clients. Worse, a native client could help to legitimize
WebRTC as some sort of successor to SIP, another step toward their goal
of replacing the what the average users knows as the OS with web
browsers in the effort to revert PCs back to serving as dumb terminals
for their cloud of mainframes (albeit very fancy and smart dumb
terminals).
 
 
 Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others
 could take over what was started?

Of course others CAN, but WILL they want to is another matter. YOU CAN
right now if it is important to you to pursue this distraction.
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Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD

2014-02-05 Thread Joe Nosay
https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x

The process has been started :
http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39t=44691

Dependencies needed- referenced in howto and webrtc dependencies:
libbrlapi from brltty.


Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for FreeBSD
and possibly other BSDs.
Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting down
on hardware resource use.
Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype or
other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, et
al.

Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS,
WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console
thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming.


Why am I proposing this?
1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring his
proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase.
2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating
systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each
other.
3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the community
another window into the development of FreeBSD.
4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact develoers
while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system.
5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development of
WebRTC sources.



Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could take
over what was started?
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Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD

2014-02-05 Thread Niklas Enbom
Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting the
gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction (no
plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that should
support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build).

Niklas


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Joe Nosay superbisq...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x

 The process has been started :
 http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39t=44691

 Dependencies needed- referenced in howto and webrtc dependencies:
 libbrlapi from brltty.


 Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for FreeBSD
 and possibly other BSDs.
 Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting down
 on hardware resource use.
 Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype or
 other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera, et
 al.

 Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS,
 WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console
 thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming.


 Why am I proposing this?
 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring his
 proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase.
 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating
 systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each
 other.
 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the community
 another window into the development of FreeBSD.
 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact develoers
 while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system.
 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development of
 WebRTC sources.



 Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could
 take over what was started?





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Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD

2014-02-05 Thread Niklas Enbom
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#search/q=enable_webrtcsq=package:chromiumtype=cs


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Joe Nosay superbisq...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Niklas Enbom niklas.en...@webrtc.orgwrote:

 Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting
 the gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction
 (no plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that
 should support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build).

 Niklas


 On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Joe Nosay superbisq...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://plus.google.com/110946378055202199166/posts/8iTsSCatk4x

 The process has been started :
 http://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39t=44691

 Dependencies needed- referenced in howto and webrtc dependencies:
 libbrlapi from brltty.


 Benefits: Native client and sever side of WebRTC applications for
 FreeBSD and possibly other BSDs.
 Eliminated dependency for Linuixlator based applications thus cutting
 down on hardware resource use.
 Eliminated need for other simulated and emulated programs to run Skype
 or other voice-and-video binaries. I.e. Wine, VirtualBox, qemu, et cetera,
 et al.

 Since it is known that Sony's PS4 uses FreeBSD as the basis for its OS,
 WebRTC could be implemented as a native application on the platform/console
 thus allowing users to communicater in real time while gaming.


 Why am I proposing this?
 1. Adrian Chadd asked on Google+ and nowhere else. I decided to bring
 his proposal to the public and attempt an initial starting phase.
 2. Users would not be limited to having only a few selected operating
 systems at their disposal. Developers could easily communicate with each
 other.
 3. Real time sharing/viewing of conventions. This would give the
 community another window into the development of FreeBSD.
 4. Companies such as IxSystems and Sony would be able to contact
 develoers while simultaneously working on a FreeBSD/FreeBSD_based system.
 5. FreeBSD developers would be able to give feedback on the development
 of WebRTC sources.



 Being that I am limited on resources, is it possible that others could
 take over what was started?







 How is it implemented at build time?

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Re: Making WebRTC available for FreeBSD

2014-02-05 Thread CeDeROM
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Niklas Enbom niklas.en...@webrtc.org wrote:
 Hey guys, not sure what this refers to. The G+ post talks about porting the
 gtalk plugin to freeBSD. WebRTC is an effort in the opposite direction (no
 plugins needed). Afaik there is a Chromium build for freeBSD that should
 support WebRTC (unless it's disabled at build).
 Niklas

WebRTC on FreeBSD YES YES YES!!! =)

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