NEED_ROOT

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Schmehl
From my reading it appears that one of the goals of STAGE is to allow users 
to build and install ports under their UID.  Are the perms in /usr/ports 
changing?


In testing the port that I'm working on, I find that I do not have rights 
to write to /usr/ports/distfiles and I do not have rights to write to 
${WORKDIR}.  That pretty much precludes building the port unless your root. 
No surprise there since the files in /usr/ports are owned by root:wheel.


So are the perms going to change?  Is port building going to run setuid? 
Or is this a vaporware?


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Re: NEED_ROOT

2013-10-04 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2013-Oct-04 16:45:34 -0500, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote:
From my reading it appears that one of the goals of STAGE is to allow users 
to build and install ports under their UID.  Are the perms in /usr/ports 
changing?

I hope not.  There's nothing wrong with the current permissions.

In testing the port that I'm working on, I find that I do not have rights 
to write to /usr/ports/distfiles and I do not have rights to write to 
${WORKDIR}.  That pretty much precludes building the port unless your root. 
No surprise there since the files in /usr/ports are owned by root:wheel.

I've built ports as non-root, with a read-mostly /usr/ports for many
years.  All you need to do is override the defaults:
WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp
PACKAGES=/where/you/want/packages
DISTDIR=/where/you/want/distfiles

Alternatively, I chmod 1777 /usr/ports/distfiles to allow a common
ports tree to be shared amongst multiple systems.  And you can also
use symlinks.

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Re: NEED_ROOT

2013-10-04 Thread Julien Laffaye

On 10/4/2013 11:45 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
From my reading it appears that one of the goals of STAGE is to allow 
users 
to build and install ports under their UID.  Are the perms in 
/usr/ports changing?


In testing the port that I'm working on, I find that I do not have 
rights to write to /usr/ports/distfiles and I do not have rights to 
write to ${WORKDIR}.  That pretty much precludes building the port 
unless your root. No surprise there since the files in /usr/ports are 
owned by root:wheel.


So are the perms going to change?  Is port building going to run 
setuid? Or is this a vaporware?




Well... set WRKDIRPREFIX and DISTDIR to point somewhere writable by your 
user.

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Re: NEED_ROOT

2013-10-04 Thread Freddie Cash
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.comwrote:

 From my reading it appears that one of the goals of STAGE is to allow
 users

 to build and install ports under their UID.  Are the perms in /usr/ports
 changing?


​You've always been able to build ports as non-root, so long as you set
WRKDIRPREFIX and DISTDIR to something you can write to.

You've never been able to install ports as non-root.

What the STAGE support stuff does is allow you to build _packages_ as
non-root.

Previously, to build a package, you first had to install the port (as
root), then build the package (as non-root), then uninstall the port (as
root).

Now, you build the port (as non-root), install into the staging directory
(as non-root), and make the package based on that (as non-root).

​IOW, root is only needed to install the package onto the destination
system.​  It's not needed on the build system.


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