Ports Request: OpenNMS
Hi, This is another request for someone to port OpenNMS to a FreeBSD port. www.opennms.org http://www.opennms.org/ This is a work of art that is well worthwhile beyond Tivoli and HP-Openview. It performs a lot of functions and would be well worth packaging as a port. There's a lot of people using it, but having it as a port would be great. (No, I don't have time to perform and maintain a port) Right now, they have packages for: Debian Fedora CentOS RedHat Solaris Suse Vmware Where is that wonderful FreeBSD port? :-) Thank you, Paul Pathiakis ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ports Request: OpenNMS
Let's not forget SiteScope. :-) P. -Original Message- From: Brian A. Seklecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM To: Paul Pathiakis Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 09:34 -0400, Paul Pathiakis wrote: Hi, This is another request for someone to port OpenNMS to a FreeBSD port. www.opennms.org http://www.opennms.org/ This is a work of art that is well worthwhile beyond Tivoli and HP-Openview. Oh come on now! You've just never had the pleasure (cut 50/50 with agonizing pain) of NetCool Omninbus! ~BAS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 09:34 -0400, Paul Pathiakis wrote: Hi, This is another request for someone to port OpenNMS to a FreeBSD port. www.opennms.org http://www.opennms.org/ This is a work of art that is well worthwhile beyond Tivoli and HP-Openview. Oh come on now! You've just never had the pleasure (cut 50/50 with agonizing pain) of NetCool Omninbus! ~BAS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
--On Friday, April 11, 2008 09:34:25 -0400 Paul Pathiakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is another request for someone to port OpenNMS to a FreeBSD port. www.opennms.org http://www.opennms.org/ This is a work of art that is well worthwhile beyond Tivoli and HP-Openview. It performs a lot of functions and would be well worth packaging as a port. There's a lot of people using it, but having it as a port would be great. (No, I don't have time to perform and maintain a port) And you think we maintainers do? Get real! I just spent several intense evenings/nights updating a complex set of ports that I maintain. I gave up a lot of other things that I could have been doing to do this. I'm not complaining. I volunteered But seriously, this is a community. Ports should be created and maintained by people who actually use them. Otherwise they don't get thoroughly tested and they're more likely to get dropped in the laps of the port team, none of whom are sitting around twiddling their thumbs. In the case of OpenNMS, the build requires jicmp, jrrd and iplike, *none* of which are ported (as well as postgresql, apache-tomcat. java jdk and optionally rddtool, all of which are already ported.) So, to even *start* porting OpenNSM, you would *first* have to port all three of those apps. (And I haven't even looked to see what dependencies *they* have that might not be in the ports tree yet. This is not uncommon with complex software packages. In fact, the ports that I just submitted updates for *forced* me to port three other apps *first*, just so I could port what *I* wanted. (And yes, I maintain those as well.) If you're really serious that you want OpenNMS ported, then it's time to make your contribution to FreeBSD. :-) Solicit help from other FreeBSD users who use/want OpenNMS, and work together to distribute the load and get the job done. There's plenty of people on this list who can help you when you run into problems. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
Paul Schmehl wrote: If you're really serious that you want OpenNMS ported, then it's time to make your contribution to FreeBSD. :-) Solicit help from other FreeBSD users who use/want OpenNMS, and work together to distribute the load and get the job done. There's plenty of people on this list who can help you when you run into problems. I couldn't agree more! But for the last statement. I have to say I've been underwhelmed with the amount of maintainership support I have received from this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) list. Perhaps it's just me, I know the ports-mgr are also very busy. Or in other cases the answer is just unknown. So, as a maintainer I tend to ask google before bugging the list. Is a dedicated maintainer-support list something discussed before? -- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints... Mark D. Foster, CISSP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mark.foster.cc/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
--On Friday, April 11, 2008 10:33:26 -0700 Mark Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: If you're really serious that you want OpenNMS ported, then it's time to make your contribution to FreeBSD. :-) Solicit help from other FreeBSD users who use/want OpenNMS, and work together to distribute the load and get the job done. There's plenty of people on this list who can help you when you run into problems. I couldn't agree more! But for the last statement. I have to say I've been underwhelmed with the amount of maintainership support I have received from this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) list. Perhaps it's just me, I know the ports-mgr are also very busy. Or in other cases the answer is just unknown. So, as a maintainer I tend to ask google before bugging the list. Is a dedicated maintainer-support list something discussed before? I think this *is* the dedicated maintainer-support list. :-) It's been my experience that most of the questions I ask here are fairly dumb and easily answered with a little research. Perhaps that's why some are slow to answer? :-) I discussed, one time, on this list, updating the porting handbook to more accurately describe the process, but that too requires some work and a PR, so I just haven't gotten to it yet. (Which I suspect is everyone's problem.) I try to help when I can, but I defer to more knowledgeable folks in most cases. I know that my porting skills have improved greatly since I first started and *much* of what I've learned has come from other ports. If you want to know how to do a port, study the existing ports - especially ones that are fairly complex, because those are *usually* done by very knowledgeable people. (Mine are all relatively simple, mind you.) -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
First thing to determine is if all the pices could actually be made to run on freeBSd before even considering a port of it, has anyone gotten OpenNMS to actually run on FreeBSD ? On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Wesley Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:08:51PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, April 11, 2008 10:33:26 -0700 Mark Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: If you're really serious that you want OpenNMS ported, then it's time to make your contribution to FreeBSD. :-) Solicit help from other FreeBSD users who use/want OpenNMS, and work together to distribute the load and get the job done. There's plenty of people on this list who can help you when you run into problems. I couldn't agree more! But for the last statement. I have to say I've been underwhelmed with the amount of maintainership support I have received from this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) list. Perhaps it's just me, I know the ports-mgr are also very busy. Or in other cases the answer is just unknown. So, as a maintainer I tend to ask google before bugging the list. Is a dedicated maintainer-support list something discussed before? If you're having a specific problem with a port you should ask the maintainer about it. Maintainers are not _required_ to subscribe to this list, though it is a good idea. If the port is unmaintained you will either have to ask her for help on what is going wrong or fix it yourself (sad, but true). We try to be as helpful as possible here but you can't please everyone all the time. :) I think this *is* the dedicated maintainer-support list. :-) It's been my experience that most of the questions I ask here are fairly dumb and easily answered with a little research. Perhaps that's why some are slow to answer? :-) I discussed, one time, on this list, updating the porting handbook to more accurately describe the process, but that too requires some work and a PR, so I just haven't gotten to it yet. (Which I suspect is everyone's problem.) The porter's handbook is a great resource, but it could certainly use some cleanup and better organization. I'd be happy to work with anyone interested in brainstorming ideas and getting them implemented. Either on a new thread or privately. I try to help when I can, but I defer to more knowledgeable folks in most cases. I know that my porting skills have improved greatly since I first started and *much* of what I've learned has come from other ports. If you want to know how to do a port, study the existing ports - especially ones that are fairly complex, because those are *usually* done by very knowledgeable people. (Mine are all relatively simple, mind you.) Yes, looking at existing ports is a great resource. If they can't give you the right answer then asking here or Google will certainly get you the right answer. -- WXS ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 01:42:20AM +0700, Outback Dingo wrote: First thing to determine is if all the pices could actually be made to run on freeBSd before even considering a port of it, has anyone gotten OpenNMS to actually run on FreeBSD ? If you keep track of what you do to make something run on FreeBSD then you've done most of the work to create a port. -- Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. pgpm2K3Pwl7ZL.pgp Description: PGP signature
