Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-16 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:17:14 +0100
Olivier Smedts oliv...@gid0.org articulated:

  I suspect this means we won't get KDE 4.4 for quite some time...  
 
 http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2010/02/cft-kde-sc-4-4-0-for-freebsd/

quote
We the FreeBSD KDE Team are happy to let you know KDE SC 4.4.0 was
released few mins ago, and we’re ready for a public test. Before
you ask we don’t want to put KDE 4.4.0 in the ports tree before
FreeBSD 7.3 was released.
/quote

It would be nice to get the new version installed prior to the release
of FreeBSD-7.3, IMHO.  Unless I am drastically wrong, installing the
new version will require a massive update of libraries, etc, similar to
the recent 'jpeg' update. It would make for a much cleaner update to
the new FreeBSD version if this procedure preceded the update rather
than postdated it. However, with the 'freeze' now in effect, there
obviously is not chance of that happening.

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Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-16 Thread Freddie Cash
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:17:14 +0100
 Olivier Smedts oliv...@gid0.org articulated:

   I suspect this means we won't get KDE 4.4 for quite some time...
 
  http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2010/02/cft-kde-sc-4-4-0-for-freebsd/

 quote
 We the FreeBSD KDE Team are happy to let you know KDE SC 4.4.0 was
 released few mins ago, and we’re ready for a public test. Before
 you ask we don’t want to put KDE 4.4.0 in the ports tree before
 FreeBSD 7.3 was released.
 /quote

 It would be nice to get the new version installed prior to the release
 of FreeBSD-7.3, IMHO.  Unless I am drastically wrong, installing the
 new version will require a massive update of libraries, etc, similar to
 the recent 'jpeg' update. It would make for a much cleaner update to
 the new FreeBSD version if this procedure preceded the update rather
 than postdated it. However, with the 'freeze' now in effect, there
 obviously is not chance of that happening.

 Only if you install the earlier version of KDE via sysinstall.  If you know
KDE 4.4 is coming after the release of 7.3, then don't install the older
version when you install 7.3.  Or, install just the bare minimum
kdelibs/kdebase.  You have plenty of advanced warning, so it's not going to
be a surprise.  :)

Personally, I always recommend to people that they don't use sysinstall to
install anything except the base OS.  Don't bother with the ports tree
install, don't bother with installing packages off the CD.  Just install the
base OS, and boot into it.  Then use all the standard tools (portsnap,
pkg_version, pkg_add, portmaster/portupgrade, portaudit, etc) to install
what you want.  That way, you know exactly what's happening, and you get
exactly what you want, when you want it.

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Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Linimon
 It would be nice to get the new version installed prior to the release
 of FreeBSD-7.3, IMHO.

a) it's not sufficiently tested.
b) an upgrade to xorg is in the wings.  That's certainly going to affect
   even more ports.

Waiting for both of those to be finished would mean delaying 7.3 even
longer.  IMHO we're in good shape where we are to get a quick release
out and then do some other upgrades to get ready for 8.1.

mcl
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Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-15 Thread Steven Friedrich
On Monday 15 February 2010 12:19:01 pm Erwin Lansing wrote:
 In preparation for 7.3-RELEASE, the ports tree is now in feature freeze.
 
 Normal upgrade, new ports, and changes that only affect other branches
 are allowed without prior approval but with the extra
 Feature safe: yes tag in the commit message.  Any commit that is
 sweeping, i.e. touches a large number of ports, infrastructural changes,
 commts to ports with unusually high number of dependent ports, and any
 other commit that requires the rebuilding of many packages is not allowed
 without prior explicit approval from portmgr after that date.
 
 When in doubt, please do not hesitate to contact portmgr.
 
 -erwin
 
I suspect this means we won't get KDE 4.4 for quite some time...
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Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-15 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com wrote:
 On Monday 15 February 2010 12:19:01 pm Erwin Lansing wrote:
 In preparation for 7.3-RELEASE, the ports tree is now in feature freeze.

 Normal upgrade, new ports, and changes that only affect other branches
 are allowed without prior approval but with the extra
 Feature safe: yes tag in the commit message.  Any commit that is
 sweeping, i.e. touches a large number of ports, infrastructural changes,
 commts to ports with unusually high number of dependent ports, and any
 other commit that requires the rebuilding of many packages is not allowed
 without prior explicit approval from portmgr after that date.

 When in doubt, please do not hesitate to contact portmgr.

 -erwin

 I suspect this means we won't get KDE 4.4 for quite some time...
 ___

I am not sure how close KDE 4.4 is but it would have been nice to get
KDE in before the freeze


Sam Fourman Jr.
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Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze now in effect

2010-02-15 Thread Olivier Smedts
2010/2/15 Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com:
 On Monday 15 February 2010 12:19:01 pm Erwin Lansing wrote:
 In preparation for 7.3-RELEASE, the ports tree is now in feature freeze.

 Normal upgrade, new ports, and changes that only affect other branches
 are allowed without prior approval but with the extra
 Feature safe: yes tag in the commit message.  Any commit that is
 sweeping, i.e. touches a large number of ports, infrastructural changes,
 commts to ports with unusually high number of dependent ports, and any
 other commit that requires the rebuilding of many packages is not allowed
 without prior explicit approval from portmgr after that date.

 When in doubt, please do not hesitate to contact portmgr.

 -erwin

 I suspect this means we won't get KDE 4.4 for quite some time...

http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2010/02/cft-kde-sc-4-4-0-for-freebsd/

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