Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-11-03 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Baptiste.
You wrote 3 ноября 2012 г., 3:56:22:

BD> The BSDmc project (http://code.google.com/p/bsdmc/) uses nanobsd
BD> and pkgng, have a look in particular at the
BD> following diff: http://code.google.com/p/bsdmc/source/detail?r=75
BD> Maybe you can find something helpful for you in there :)

   Unfortunately, it diverged with nanobsd long time ago and have
completely custom package installation function, very complex and
unobvious. Now I have only one problem with replacing `pkg_add' with
`pkg add' (I've implemented bootstrap of chrooted environment): `pkg
add' doesn't have `-F' flag, and attempt to add package twice (first
time as dependency and second time because simple nanobsd script
doesn't sort packages and add all of them, so required package could
be again added after dependant package) leads to non-success return
code :(

   Also, I could not find any documentation about system `pkg' command:
`man pkg' shows nothing, `pkg -h' doesn't work, etc. So it is
unobvious, where could I read about ASSUME_ALWAYS_YES, PACKAGESITE and
other variables, needed for automatic (non-interactive,
non-networked) bootstrap. Way to construct proper URL for pkg.txz
(with ABI, etc) from script is not clear, too, and automatic
downloading doesn't work in chrooted environment, as it doesn't have
configured resolver.

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-11-02 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 12:41:31AM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Lev.
> You wrote 2 ноября 2012 г., 23:24:28:
> 
> BD>> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system 
> or find
> BD>> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install 
> tools.
> LS>  Did somebody update nanobsd scripts? ;-)
>  Simple replacing "pkg_add" with "pkg add" doesn't work ;-)
> 
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The BSDmc project (http://code.google.com/p/bsdmc/) uses nanobsd and pkgng, 
have a look in particular at the
following diff: http://code.google.com/p/bsdmc/source/detail?r=75

Maybe you can find something helpful for you in there :)

regards,
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-11-02 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 12:41:31AM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Lev.
> You wrote 2 ноября 2012 г., 23:24:28:
> 
> BD>> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system 
> or find
> BD>> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install 
> tools.
> LS>  Did somebody update nanobsd scripts? ;-)
>  Simple replacing "pkg_add" with "pkg add" doesn't work ;-)
> 

I know some people have some patches for nanobsd that should work with pkgng,
but I don't know much about it.

regards,
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-11-02 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Lev.
You wrote 2 ноября 2012 г., 23:24:28:

BD>> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system 
or find
BD>> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install 
tools.
LS>  Did somebody update nanobsd scripts? ;-)
 Simple replacing "pkg_add" with "pkg add" doesn't work ;-)

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-11-02 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Baptiste.
You wrote 10 октября 2012 г., 17:44:21:

BD> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
find
BD> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
 Did somebody update nanobsd scripts? ;-)

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-21 Thread Alex Keda
On 19.10.2012 23:19, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>  skipped .
> https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/commit/8e4cc67cffe8f0afd5c0e25651bd367e12196bbd

BIG thanks!



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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 19/10/2012 17:21, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 19.10.2012 19:59, Chris Rees wrote:
>> On 19 October 2012 16:16, Alex Keda  wrote:
>>> On 19.10.2012 19:10, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
 On 19/10/2012 15:39, Alex Keda wrote:
> pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions
>
> for example, for service command, I use
> complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
> in .cshrc
>
> what I can use for pkg command?

 horrible but working example
 pkg help 2>&1 | sed -e '1,/Commands supported:/d ; /For more information
 on the different commands/,$d; s/^   *// ; s/  .*.*$// ;/^$/d'

 There's bound to be better ways, I was just bored enough to knock this up.
 note s/^*//   is a tab, while s/  .*.*$// is 2 spaces
 dont think our sed has any other way to express tab other than an actual
 tab (ctrl-v then tab on the command line)
>>>
>>> it's crazy =)
>>> may be add -l options?
>>
>> For Bourne-style shell:
>> `pkg help 2>&1 | sed -nE 's,^  +(.*),\1,p'`
>>
>> For csh-style shell:
>> `pkg help | & sed -nE 's,^ +(.*),\1,p'`
>>
>> where the bit between ^ and + is a tab character.  You can type the
>> tab character on a command prompt by using Ctrl+V then tab, or just
>> type it normally in the script.
>>
>> Hope that helps in the meantime.
>>
>> Chris
>>
> dc7700p# pkg
> -cDisplays  Performs  a and
> check debug from  insidelocal
> package   packages  remotesearchsystem
> updating
> -dDisplays  Performs  a and
> . skipped 
> Displays  Opens a against   catalogues
> debug from  insidelink  package
> packages  register  searchsystemupdate
> dc7700p#
> dc7700p# grep pkg /root/.cshrc
> complete pkg'n/*/`pkg help |& sed -nE "s,^  +(.*),\1,p"`/'
> 
> some not work... I try my own string:
> complete pkg   'n/*/`pkg help |& grep "Commands supported:"
> --after-context=100 | grep "^\s" | awk "{print $1}"`/'
> 
> output identical. maybe pipe not work in this place?
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https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/commit/8e4cc67cffe8f0afd5c0e25651bd367e12196bbd

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Alex Keda
On 19.10.2012 19:59, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 19 October 2012 16:16, Alex Keda  wrote:
>> On 19.10.2012 19:10, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2012 15:39, Alex Keda wrote:
 pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions

 for example, for service command, I use
 complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
 in .cshrc

 what I can use for pkg command?
>>>
>>> horrible but working example
>>> pkg help 2>&1 | sed -e '1,/Commands supported:/d ; /For more information
>>> on the different commands/,$d; s/^   *// ; s/  .*.*$// ;/^$/d'
>>>
>>> There's bound to be better ways, I was just bored enough to knock this up.
>>> note s/^*//   is a tab, while s/  .*.*$// is 2 spaces
>>> dont think our sed has any other way to express tab other than an actual
>>> tab (ctrl-v then tab on the command line)
>>
>> it's crazy =)
>> may be add -l options?
> 
> For Bourne-style shell:
> `pkg help 2>&1 | sed -nE 's,^  +(.*),\1,p'`
> 
> For csh-style shell:
> `pkg help | & sed -nE 's,^ +(.*),\1,p'`
> 
> where the bit between ^ and + is a tab character.  You can type the
> tab character on a command prompt by using Ctrl+V then tab, or just
> type it normally in the script.
> 
> Hope that helps in the meantime.
> 
> Chris
> 
dc7700p# pkg
-cDisplays  Performs  a and
check debug from  insidelocal
package   packages  remotesearchsystem
updating
-dDisplays  Performs  a and
. skipped 
Displays  Opens a against   catalogues
debug from  insidelink  package
packages  register  searchsystemupdate
dc7700p#
dc7700p# grep pkg /root/.cshrc
complete pkg'n/*/`pkg help |& sed -nE "s,^  +(.*),\1,p"`/'

some not work... I try my own string:
complete pkg   'n/*/`pkg help |& grep "Commands supported:"
--after-context=100 | grep "^\s" | awk "{print $1}"`/'

output identical. maybe pipe not work in this place?
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Rees
On 19 October 2012 16:16, Alex Keda  wrote:
> On 19.10.2012 19:10, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
>> On 19/10/2012 15:39, Alex Keda wrote:
>>> On 10.10.2012 17:44, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
 Hi all,

 If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
 concerned by the announce.

 As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, 
 the
 ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based 
 on
 version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.

 Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system 
 or find
 instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install 
 tools.

 regards,
 Bapt

>>> pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions
>>>
>>> for example, for service command, I use
>>> complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
>>> in .cshrc
>>>
>>> what I can use for pkg command?
>>
>> horrible but working example
>> pkg help 2>&1 | sed -e '1,/Commands supported:/d ; /For more information
>> on the different commands/,$d; s/^   *// ; s/  .*.*$// ;/^$/d'
>>
>> There's bound to be better ways, I was just bored enough to knock this up.
>> note s/^*//   is a tab, while s/  .*.*$// is 2 spaces
>> dont think our sed has any other way to express tab other than an actual
>> tab (ctrl-v then tab on the command line)
>
> it's crazy =)
> may be add -l options?

For Bourne-style shell:
`pkg help 2>&1 | sed -nE 's,^  +(.*),\1,p'`

For csh-style shell:
`pkg help | & sed -nE 's,^ +(.*),\1,p'`

where the bit between ^ and + is a tab character.  You can type the
tab character on a command prompt by using Ctrl+V then tab, or just
type it normally in the script.

Hope that helps in the meantime.

Chris
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Alex Keda
On 19.10.2012 19:10, Vincent Hoffman wrote:
> On 19/10/2012 15:39, Alex Keda wrote:
>> On 10.10.2012 17:44, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
>>> concerned by the announce.
>>>
>>> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
>>> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based 
>>> on
>>> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
>>>
>>> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
>>> find
>>> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Bapt
>>>
>> pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions
>>
>> for example, for service command, I use
>> complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
>> in .cshrc
>>
>> what I can use for pkg command?
> 
> horrible but working example
> pkg help 2>&1 | sed -e '1,/Commands supported:/d ; /For more information
> on the different commands/,$d; s/^   *// ; s/  .*.*$// ;/^$/d'
> 
> There's bound to be better ways, I was just bored enough to knock this up.
> note s/^*//   is a tab, while s/  .*.*$// is 2 spaces
> dont think our sed has any other way to express tab other than an actual
> tab (ctrl-v then tab on the command line)

it's crazy =)
may be add -l options?
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 19/10/2012 15:39, Alex Keda wrote:
> On 10.10.2012 17:44, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
>> concerned by the announce.
>>
>> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
>> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
>> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
>>
>> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
>> find
>> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
>>
>> regards,
>> Bapt
>>
> pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions
>
> for example, for service command, I use
> complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
> in .cshrc
>
> what I can use for pkg command?

horrible but working example
pkg help 2>&1 | sed -e '1,/Commands supported:/d ; /For more information
on the different commands/,$d; s/^   *// ; s/  .*.*$// ;/^$/d'

There's bound to be better ways, I was just bored enough to knock this up.
note s/^*//   is a tab, while s/  .*.*$// is 2 spaces
dont think our sed has any other way to express tab other than an actual
tab (ctrl-v then tab on the command line)

Vince
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 10/10/2012 8:44 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> concerned by the announce.
> 
> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> 
> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> find
> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> 
> regards,
> Bapt
> 

In case anyone missed it. Both ports-mgmt/portmaster and
ports-mgmt/portupgrade will work with PKGNG now. For portmaster, you
will need to select the PKGNGPATCH currently.

The plan is to not require the patch for the next portmaster version, to
support both pkg_install and pkgng out-of-box.

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-19 Thread Alex Keda
On 10.10.2012 17:44, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> concerned by the announce.
> 
> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> 
> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> find
> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> 
> regards,
> Bapt
> 
pkg command does not have key for list options - no autocompletions

for example, for service command, I use
complete service'n/*/`service -l`/'
in .cshrc

what I can use for pkg command?
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:11:22PM +0200, Victor Balada Diaz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:31:49PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > Yes there is http://pkg.FreeBSD.org (no website in there no need to try to
> > there) which will point you to pkgbeta.freebsd.org where some packages 
> > resides.
> > 
> > Unfortunatly the package building cluster needs some time to get more 
> > reliable
> > and thus the packages out there are not updated very often.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Bapt
> 
> Is there anything we can do to help with build cluster reliability?
> 
> Regards.
> Victor.
> -- 
> La prueba más fehaciente de que existe vida inteligente en otros
> planetas, es que no han intentado contactar con nosotros. 

1/ send me motivation :)
2/ if you are willing to code the new version, please contact me in private I'll
share the designs, code repository and how it works.

beware the architecture needed to test is not trivial at all :D

regards,
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Victor Balada Diaz
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:31:49PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Yes there is http://pkg.FreeBSD.org (no website in there no need to try to
> there) which will point you to pkgbeta.freebsd.org where some packages 
> resides.
> 
> Unfortunatly the package building cluster needs some time to get more reliable
> and thus the packages out there are not updated very often.
> 
> regards,
> Bapt

Is there anything we can do to help with build cluster reliability?

Regards.
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 10/10/2012 17:43, Bruce Cran wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 17:31, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> Yes there is http://pkg.FreeBSD.org (no website in there no need to
>> try to there) which will point you to pkgbeta.freebsd.org where some
>> packages resides.
> 
> On my systems pkg.freebsd.org doesn't seem to exist:
> 
>> ping pkg.freebsd.org
> ping: cannot resolve pkg.freebsd.org: No address associated with name
> 

% dig IN SRV _http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org

; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> IN SRV _http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34727
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;_http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org.IN  SRV

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 10 80 pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org.

;; Query time: 71 msec
;; SERVER: ::1#53(::1)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 10 17:50:20 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 83



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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Bruce Cran

On 10/10/2012 17:31, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
Yes there is http://pkg.FreeBSD.org (no website in there no need to 
try to there) which will point you to pkgbeta.freebsd.org where some 
packages resides.


On my systems pkg.freebsd.org doesn't seem to exist:

> ping pkg.freebsd.org
ping: cannot resolve pkg.freebsd.org: No address associated with name

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 10/10/2012 16:52, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
> I read UPDATING, but I'm still not sure what this means when I use
> ports and not packages.

It means that if you're a user of HEAD, and you don't opt out by setting
WITHOUT_PKGNG=yes in make.conf, then:

  * the next time you use the ports, ports-mgmt/pkg will be installed
as a dependency

  * pkgng will be used to register all the ports you subsequently
install into /var/db/pkg/local.sqlite

However, unless you take some preventive action, any ports that were
installed before this update won't be added to the registry in
local.sqlite.  You'll end up with a mix of stuff using the old subdirs
of /var/db/pkg from pkg_tools and the new local.sqlite from pkgng.

Sorting that out is a one-time job to import the pkg_tools data into
pkgng's database using pkg2ng, which is what the instructions in
UPDATING describe.

> Does it mean that I should install pkg to have /var/db/pkg managed,
> but otherwise ports keeps working the same way, or?

pkgng will need to be installed, yes.  You'll need to switch to using
pkgng commands rather than pkg_tools -- eg:

pkg info -a

to get a list of all installed ports.  You need to patch portmaster(8)
if you use that -- although a patched version will soon be available in
ports.  Apart from that, the ports will work pretty much exactly as they
used to do.

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:25:08PM +0200, Victor Balada Diaz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:44:21PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> > concerned by the announce.
> > 
> > As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> > ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based 
> > on
> > version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> > 
> > Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> > find
> > instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Bapt
> 
> Hello Baptiste,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your hard work.
> 
> I've been using pkgng for a while on 9.0 and it's been a great experience.
> 
> Right now you can use pointyhat packages[1] if you use old pkg tools. Is
> there any plan to create binary packages more often than once per release?
> 
> Regards.
> Victor.
> 
> [1]: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-10-packages-latest/
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> planetas, es que no han intentado contactar con nosotros. 

Yes there is http://pkg.FreeBSD.org (no website in there no need to try to
there) which will point you to pkgbeta.freebsd.org where some packages resides.

Unfortunatly the package building cluster needs some time to get more reliable
and thus the packages out there are not updated very often.

regards,
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 04:52:45PM +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Baptiste Daroussin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> > concerned by the announce.
> >
> > As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> > ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based 
> > on
> > version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> >
> > Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> > find
> > instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> 
> I read UPDATING, but I'm still not sure what this means when I use
> ports and not packages.
> 
> Does it mean that I should install pkg to have /var/db/pkg managed,
> but otherwise ports keeps working the same way, or?
> 
> -- 
> Simon L. B. Nielsen

That means you either have to add WITHOUT_PKGNG to you make.conf so that nothing
changes for you

or follow the procedure (which is for ports only) and your local ports will be
managed by pkgng, and you can forget about all the pkg_* tools :)

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Victor Balada Diaz
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:44:21PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> concerned by the announce.
> 
> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> 
> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> find
> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> 
> regards,
> Bapt

Hello Baptiste,

Thanks a lot for your hard work.

I've been using pkgng for a while on 9.0 and it's been a great experience.

Right now you can use pointyhat packages[1] if you use old pkg tools. Is
there any plan to create binary packages more often than once per release?

Regards.
Victor.

[1]: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-10-packages-latest/
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:42:39AM -0700, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote:
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Glen Barber  wrote:
> 
> > From: Glen Barber 
> > Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng
> > To: "Baptiste Daroussin" 
> > Cc: po...@freebsd.org, ports-annou...@freebsd.org, curr...@freebsd.org
> > Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 6:51 AM
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:44:21PM
> > +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current
> > setup, then you are
> > > concerned by the announce.
> > > 
> > > As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly
> > working with pkgng, the
> > > ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on
> > FreeBSD Current based on
> > > version >= 117 which was the version when we
> > tested the switch code.
> > > 
> > > Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly
> > migrate your system or find
> > > instruction to make your system still running with
> > legacy pkg_install tools.
> > > 
> > 
> > Congratulations, and thank you for all of your hard work on
> > this!
> > 
> > Glen
> > 
> > 
> I was/am confused by the UPDATING instructions.
> To make the switch:  (which switch, and only for V10, from which
> to which?)
> ...
> Before and after step 3, how specifically is the system set up?
> ...
> Should any of this be done by persons using V9 immediately before
> a v9 v10 upgrade?  And can another synopsis be written for those
> before the upgrade, specifically to prepare for either case
> after the upgrade? 
> IOW more subsections and a longer explanation.  (I think maybe more
> context before/after some of the steps in the procedure...)
> 
> 
> Just a  suggestion.  I could probably figure it all out later...

the AFFECT line was updated to specify which version of FreeBSD are concerned.

This also concern people doing an upgrade from v9 to v10, but after the upgrade
to v10.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Simon L. B. Nielsen
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Baptiste Daroussin  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> concerned by the announce.
>
> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
>
> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> find
> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.

I read UPDATING, but I'm still not sure what this means when I use
ports and not packages.

Does it mean that I should install pkg to have /var/db/pkg managed,
but otherwise ports keeps working the same way, or?

-- 
Simon L. B. Nielsen
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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Jeffrey Bouquet


--- On Wed, 10/10/12, Glen Barber  wrote:

> From: Glen Barber 
> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng
> To: "Baptiste Daroussin" 
> Cc: po...@freebsd.org, ports-annou...@freebsd.org, curr...@freebsd.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 6:51 AM
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:44:21PM
> +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current
> setup, then you are
> > concerned by the announce.
> > 
> > As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly
> working with pkgng, the
> > ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on
> FreeBSD Current based on
> > version >= 117 which was the version when we
> tested the switch code.
> > 
> > Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly
> migrate your system or find
> > instruction to make your system still running with
> legacy pkg_install tools.
> > 
> 
> Congratulations, and thank you for all of your hard work on
> this!
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
I was/am confused by the UPDATING instructions.
To make the switch:  (which switch, and only for V10, from which
to which?)
...
Before and after step 3, how specifically is the system set up?
...
Should any of this be done by persons using V9 immediately before
a v9 v10 upgrade?  And can another synopsis be written for those
before the upgrade, specifically to prepare for either case
after the upgrade? 
IOW more subsections and a longer explanation.  (I think maybe more
context before/after some of the steps in the procedure...)


Just a  suggestion.  I could probably figure it all out later...

J. Bouquet

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Re: [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng

2012-10-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 03:44:21PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> If you are using the ports tree on a FreeBSD current setup, then you are
> concerned by the announce.
> 
> As nvidia-drivers has been fixed and is now properly working with pkgng, the
> ports tree as been switch by default to use pkgng on FreeBSD Current based on
> version >= 117 which was the version when we tested the switch code.
> 
> Make sure to read UPDATING (from ports) to correctly migrate your system or 
> find
> instruction to make your system still running with legacy pkg_install tools.
> 

Congratulations, and thank you for all of your hard work on this!

Glen



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