Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-22 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Alexander Nedotsukov wrote:

AN  Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
AN release
AN  notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts
AN with 
AN  one of the *widest* server component.
AN 
AN What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help Apache
AN 1.3+ lovers?

Something like

Full GNOME 2.26 installation is incompatible with Apache HTTP Server 1.3 due to 
user-share GNOME component dependency on apache22.  To resolve the issue, 
either install gnome2-lite package or upgrade apache13 to apache22.


AN And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:
AN 
AN http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html
AN 
AN We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including 1.3
AN family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as possible.
AN 
AN :-^)

Please note that this recommendation is not located on HTTP server home page, 
and 1.3 releases are still listed there, and not marked as legacy

Also, there are still rather wide set of httpd modules which are written for 
1.3 only :(

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-22 Thread Alexander Nedotsukov

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:22:41 +0400 (MSD), Dmitry Morozovsky
ma...@rinet.ru
wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Alexander Nedotsukov wrote:
 
 AN  Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
release
 AN  notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets
conflicts with 
 AN  one of the *widest* server component.
 AN 
 AN What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help
Apache
 AN 1.3+ lovers?
 
 Something like
 
 Full GNOME 2.26 installation is incompatible with Apache HTTP Server 1.3
 due to user-share GNOME component dependency on apache22.  To resolve the
issue, 
 either install gnome2-lite package or upgrade apache13 to apache22.

This seems to be almost obvious to me. But surely can be stressed out.
Am I right to assume we are talking about entry in ports/UPDATING?

 
 
 AN And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:
 AN 
 AN http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html
 AN 
 AN We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including
1.3
 AN family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as
possible.
 AN 
 AN :-^)
 
 Please note that this recommendation is not located on HTTP server home
page, 
 and 1.3 releases are still listed there, and not marked as legacy

http://httpd.apache.org/

The Apache Group is pleased to announce the *legacy* release of the 1.3.41
version of the Apache HTTP Server.

 
 Also, there are still rather wide set of httpd modules which are written
for 
 1.3 only :(

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-21 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without 
requiring apache22?
JMC  JMC 
JMC  JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC  JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized 
meta-port).
JMC  
JMC  Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JMC 
JMC Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly get
JMC requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the philosophy to
JMC keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME Desktop
JMC components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
JMC down the slope of making everything optional.
JMC 
JMC In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
JMC meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then build
JMC on that for what they need.

Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in release 
notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts with 
one of the *widest* server component.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-21 Thread Alexander Nedotsukov

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:19:30 +0400 (MSD), Dmitry Morozovsky
ma...@rinet.ru
wrote:
 JMC Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly
get
 JMC requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the
philosophy to
 JMC keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME
Desktop
 JMC components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
 JMC down the slope of making everything optional.
 JMC 
 JMC In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
 JMC meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then
build
 JMC on that for what they need.
 
 Well, then I suppose we should at least say something about this in
release
 notes, because in 7.2 one of *major* desktop application sets conflicts
with 
 one of the *widest* server component.

What do you propose to write in the release notes which could help Apache
1.3+ lovers?
And may I in turn quote a bit of another release notes:

http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement1.3.html

We strongly recommend that users of all earlier versions, including 1.3
family release, upgrade to to the current 2.2 version as soon as possible.

:-^)


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:47 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i 
 have apache13 
 JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to 
 chase 
 JMC  JMC  options but failed.
 JMC  JMC 
 JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for 
 gnome-user-share which
 JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
 JMC  
 JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
 apache22?
 JMC 
 JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
 JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).
 
 Well, would you object to the following quick fix?

Actually, I have always shied away from such things.  We regularly get
requests to change the meta-port, but we long ago took the philosophy to
keep the Desktop meta-port as close to the official set of GNOME Desktop
components as possible.  If we add an option for this, then we slide
down the slope of making everything optional.

In the past I've simply prompted people to create their own local
meta-ports, or install x11/gnome2-lite (no user-share there), then build
on that for what they need.

Joe

 
 Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
 ===
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
 retrieving revision 1.154
 diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
 --- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
 +++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
 @@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
  .endif
  
  .if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}==gnome2-lite
 -OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off
 +OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off \
 +   USER_SHARE Use gnome-user-share for file sharing on
  .endif
  
  do-install:# empty
 @@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
 swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
 vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
 brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
 -   gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \
 
 ${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
  
 \
 
 ${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
 +.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
 +RUN_DEPENDS+= gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share
 +.endif
  .if ${ARCH} == i386
  #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
  .endif
  
 
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-19 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:05 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:
 
 [snip all]
 
 RN  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does 
 not fix 
 RN  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
 outer host, 
 RN  I immediately got the popup with 
 RN  
 RN  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
 RN  
 RN  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
 RN  
 RN  login keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
 above is 
 RN  totally reproducible.
 RN 
 RN If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
 RN about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
 RN the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
 RN default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
 RN we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.
 
 Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
 dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
 clean this up and report the results.

I just discovered two serious bugs in seahorse and gnome-keyring that
may be messing you up.  I have committed fixes to the ports-stable
module in MarcusCom CVS pending the ports thaw.  You can access the
report using the instructions at
http://www.marcuscom.com:8080/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi .

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Stef Walter wrote:

SW Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
SW  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does 
not fix 
SW  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host, 
SW  I immediately got the popup with 
SW  
SW  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
SW  
SW  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
SW 
SW I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
SW SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.

Hmm, I just did portupgrade -f gnome-keyring gnome-terminal, and ensured there 
is no additional keyrings. Still, gnome terminal can't start any tab which 
executes ssh :(


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:

DM SW  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one 
does not fix 
DM SW  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
outer host, 
DM SW  I immediately got the popup with 
DM SW  
DM SW  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
DM SW  
DM SW  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
DM SW 
DM SW I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
DM SW SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.
DM 
DM Hmm, I just did portupgrade -f gnome-keyring gnome-terminal, and ensured 
there 
DM is no additional keyrings. Still, gnome terminal can't start any tab which 
DM executes ssh :(

Well, the devil finally found somewhere in the settings: I just created new 
user from scratch, relogin into this account, and key-based ssh sessions in the 
Terminal work.  So, I'll clean up my dot directories and try to start a bit 
over ;-)

Thanks all.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i 
have apache13 
JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to 
chase 
JMC  JMC  options but failed.
JMC  JMC 
JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share 
which
JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JMC  
JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
apache22?
JMC 
JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).

Well, would you object to the following quick fix?

Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.154
diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
--- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
+++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
@@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
 .endif
 
 .if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}==gnome2-lite
-OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off
+OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off \
+   USER_SHARE Use gnome-user-share for file sharing on
 .endif
 
 do-install:# empty
@@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
-   gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \

${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
 
\

${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
+RUN_DEPENDS+= gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share
+.endif
 .if ${ARCH} == i386
 #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
 .endif
 

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:47:33 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru  
wrote:



On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install  
(i have apache13
JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried  
to chase

JMC  JMC  options but failed.
JMC  JMC
JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for  
gnome-user-share which

JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JMC 
JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without  
requiring apache22?

JMC
JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized  
meta-port).


Well, would you object to the following quick fix?


Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own system,  
so it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always turn  
down that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages  
in CD for the release.


Cheers,
Mezz


Index: x11/gnome2/Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/gnome2/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.154
diff -u -r1.154 Makefile
--- x11/gnome2/Makefile 10 Apr 2009 05:56:18 -  1.154
+++ x11/gnome2/Makefile 18 Apr 2009 09:26:50 -
@@ -68,7 +68,8 @@
 .endif
.if !defined(GNOME_SLAVE) || ${.CURDIR:T}==gnome2-lite
-OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off
+OPTIONS=   XSCREENSAVER Use xscreensaver as screen saver app off \
+   USER_SHARE Use gnome-user-share for file sharing on
 .endif
do-install:# empty
@@ -90,9 +91,11 @@
swfdec-player:${PORTSDIR}/multimedia/swfdec-gnome \
vinagre:${PORTSDIR}/net/vinagre \
brasero:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/brasero \
-
gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share \

${LOCALBASE}/lib/deskbar-applet/deskbar-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/deskbar-applet
\
${LOCALBASE}/lib/hamster-applet/hamster-applet:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/hamster-applet
+.if !defined(WITHOUT_USER_SHARE)
+RUN_DEPENDS+=  
gnome-file-share-properties:${PORTSDIR}/www/gnome-user-share

+.endif
 .if ${ARCH} == i386
 #RUN_DEPENDS+= tomboy:${PORTSDIR}/deskutils/tomboy
 .endif





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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM  JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install
JM  (i have apache13
JM  JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to
JM  chase
JM  JMC  JMC  options but failed.
JM  JMC  JMC
JM  JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM  gnome-user-share which
JM  JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM  JMC 
JM  JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM  requiring apache22?
JM  JMC
JM  JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
JM  JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM  meta-port).
JM  
JM  Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM 
JM Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own system, so
JM it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always turn down
JM that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages in CD
JM for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options for the 
metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems which they 
are using as sorta personal websevers too, not too resource hungry, hence 
apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a single 
machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:15:59 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru  
wrote:



On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM  JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22  
install

JM  (i have apache13
JM  JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I  
tried to

JM  chase
JM  JMC  JMC  options but failed.
JM  JMC  JMC
JM  JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM  gnome-user-share which
JM  JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM  JMC 
JM  JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM  requiring apache22?
JM  JMC
JM  JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and  
remove

JM  JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM  meta-port).
JM 
JM  Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM
JM Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own  
system, so
JM it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always  
turn down
JM that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build packages  
in CD

JM for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options  
for the

metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems which  
they
are using as sorta personal websevers too, not too resource hungry,  
hence

apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a single
machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


I didn't exactly read previous thread, but you do have a good point.

I am surpised about that gnome-user-share doesn't use gvfs. Isn't gvfs  
supposed to be already support WebDAV (gvfs-dav)?


Cheers,
Mezz


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremy Messenger

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:38:35 -0500, Jeremy Messenger me...@cox.net wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:15:59 -0500, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru  
wrote:



On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

JM  JMC  JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22  
install

JM  (i have apache13
JM  JMC  JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I  
tried to

JM  chase
JM  JMC  JMC  options but failed.
JM  JMC  JMC
JM  JMC  JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for
JM  gnome-user-share which
JM  JMC  JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
JM  JMC 
JM  JMC  Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without
JM  requiring apache22?
JM  JMC
JM  JMC Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port,  
and remove

JM  JMC gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized
JM  meta-port).
JM 
JM  Well, would you object to the following quick fix?
JM
JM Wel.. I object. marcus also said that you only can do in your own  
system, so
JM it means we don't want to add any option in x11/gnome2. We always  
turn down
JM that kind of patch unless no choice for limit size to build  
packages in CD

JM for the release.

I hope I understand your intentions, but this is not the first options  
for the

metaport, heh? ;-)

My main concern is that many my colleagues work on desktop systems  
which they
are using as sorta personal websevers too, not too resource hungry,  
hence
apache 1.3.  From the last upgrade the only way to achieve it on a  
single

machine is to split Gnome and apache to separate jails...


I didn't exactly read previous thread, but you do have a good point.

I am surpised about that gnome-user-share doesn't use gvfs. Isn't gvfs  
supposed to be already support WebDAV (gvfs-dav)?


Nevermind about that gvfs part. Clearly wake up and type email is a bad  
idea.



Cheers,
Mezz



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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-15 Thread Stef Walter
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does not 
 fix 
 the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
 host, 
 I immediately got the popup with 
 
 There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
 
 nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.

I believe this problem is fixed in gnome-keyring 2.26.1. FWIW, the GNOME
SSH agent is part if gnome-keyring.

Cheers,

Stef

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:
 Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does not 
 fix
 the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer host,
 I immediately got the popup with

 There was an error creating the child process for this terminal

 nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.

Out of curiosity, unrelated to your issue - if this is about
interactive ssh [shell] session, do you mean Gnome Terminal?

I wasn't aware it can do anything on its own with ssh, normally I run
the regular ssh client inside. How do you ssh directly from Gnome
Terminal (if that's the one you mean) with gnome-keyring/seahorse
capabilities?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Robert Noland
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 14:24 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:
 
 MV On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru wrote:
 MV  Dear Joe Marcus,
 MV 
 MV  DM JMC What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
 MV  DM
 MV  DM ma...@revamp:/usr/ports pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
 MV  DM gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other 
 secrets
 MV  DM seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys 
 (PGP, SSH)
 MV 
 MV  After
 MV 
 MV  portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring
 MV 
 MV  and reboot
 MV 
 MV  still the same effect...
 MV 
 MV  Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, 
 but I
 MV  would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)
 MV 
 MV Well, I have no idea what a Terminal remote login in this particular
 MV context is, so this may not be of any help, but I've seen this issue
 MV before:
 MV 
 MV Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then
 MV let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
 asking..
 MV Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check
 MV whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
 checked that
 MV I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual
 MV password qiery.
 MV 
 MV I've been in similiar situation some time ago, when new
 MV gnome-keyring/seahorse (it started with one of the recent versions,
 MV don't remember exactly when, but definitely before 2.26 was
 MV introduced) for some surely interesting reason insisted on creating a
 MV very own keyring every other reboot - while originally you were using
 MV one default keyring (let's call it default) for storing your
 MV passwords, now gnome-keyring kept creating a new one named login and
 MV always set it as the default one.
 MV 
 MV That login keyring was even more special in that that nothing stored
 MV in it ever worked, it still kept asking for passwords and even then
 MV was not able to use them (and lost them on the next reboot anyway..
 MV Maybe that's a feature, don't know, don't care). I've run into this on
 MV a few different machines, every time I needed to open 'seahorse', get
 MV to Passwords tab, delete the login keyring, set the original
 MV default as the default keyring (first time I wiped them all and
 MV created a clean one to be sure, but as it turned out later, this
 MV wasn't needed), after that, passwords worked fine again. This
 MV procedure again and again for a few days/reboots, until seahorse
 MV miraculously stopped this madness and let my default keyring be, well,
 MV default (yes, just like that).
 MV 
 MV Anyway, if you weren't there yet, check seahorse gui for what keyring
 MV are you really using, maybe you've hit the same issue with the login
 MV stupidity..
 
 Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does not 
 fix 
 the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
 host, 
 I immediately got the popup with 
 
 There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
 
 nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
 
 login keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect above 
 is 
 totally reproducible.

If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.

robert.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

MV  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does 
not fix
MV  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host,
MV  I immediately got the popup with
MV 
MV  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
MV 
MV  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
MV 
MV Out of curiosity, unrelated to your issue - if this is about
MV interactive ssh [shell] session, do you mean Gnome Terminal?
MV 
MV I wasn't aware it can do anything on its own with ssh, normally I run
MV the regular ssh client inside. How do you ssh directly from Gnome
MV Terminal (if that's the one you mean) with gnome-keyring/seahorse
MV capabilities?

Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)

I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field. 

Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first external 
connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent 
external sessions works automagically.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

 Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)

 I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field.

 Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first 
 external
 connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent
 external sessions works automagically.

I'm still puzzled with that, by execute command field i guess you mean
[x] run a custom command instead of my shell in gnome-terminal
preferences. Bud where'd you get the ssh/seahorse functionality?

Let's assume the 'ssh' will run the first ssh in path, that is by default

$ which ssh
/usr/bin/ssh

$ ssh -V
OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007

But where does your seahorse powered ssh client come from?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:

[snip all]

RN  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does 
not fix 
RN  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to outer 
host, 
RN  I immediately got the popup with 
RN  
RN  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
RN  
RN  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
RN  
RN  login keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
above is 
RN  totally reproducible.
RN 
RN If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
RN about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
RN the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
RN default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
RN we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.

Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
clean this up and report the results.

Thank you!

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Olivier SMEDTS
2009/4/14 Michal Varga varga.mic...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Michal Varga wrote:

 Yes, it's Gnome Terminal, see $SUBJ ;-)

 I just filled 'ssh -e none host' in execute command field.

 Before upgrade to 2.26 everything is worked like a charm -- on a first 
 external
 connect, seahorse popup appears, asks me for a passphrase, and subsequent
 external sessions works automagically.

 I'm still puzzled with that, by execute command field i guess you mean
 [x] run a custom command instead of my shell in gnome-terminal
 preferences. Bud where'd you get the ssh/seahorse functionality?

 Let's assume the 'ssh' will run the first ssh in path, that is by default

 $ which ssh
 /usr/bin/ssh

 $ ssh -V
 OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007

 But where does your seahorse powered ssh client come from?

It's an ssh agent, not an ssh client. I think it defines some SSH_*
env variables at session opening, which are used by /usr/bin/ssh.


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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:05 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Robert Noland wrote:
 
 [snip all]
 
 RN  Yes, seahorse shows me two keyrings; however, deleting login one does 
 not fix 
 RN  the situation: if in the Terminal I try to open tab which ssh's to 
 outer host, 
 RN  I immediately got the popup with 
 RN  
 RN  There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
 RN  
 RN  nothing in this tab is started, and tab is just hanging.
 RN  
 RN  login keyring sometimes got recreated, sometimes not, but the effect 
 above is 
 RN  totally reproducible.
 RN 
 RN If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
 RN about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
 RN the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
 RN default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still work)
 RN we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are found.
 
 Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
 dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll try to 
 clean this up and report the results.

I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  RN If I am following this correctly, the functionality you are talking
JMC  RN about is actually provided by seahorse-agent, which is installed with
JMC  RN the seahorse-plugins port now.  Unless something has changed with the
JMC  RN default session (and I don't think it has, since my keyrings still 
work)
JMC  RN we wrap the session with ssh-agent and seahorse-agent if they are 
found.
JMC  
JMC  Aha! Yes, and seahorse-plugins was not installed; moreover, one of its 
JMC  dependencies (pth) conflicted with pth-hard installed previously. I'll 
try to 
JMC  clean this up and report the results.
JMC 
JMC I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
JMC are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

Well, I did ;-)

Somehow during the upgrade gnome2 meta-port had been uninstalled, hence missing 
portupgrade -a.

I'm now in progress of portupgrade -N gnome2, will report the results.

Thank you!

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
JMC are using the entire GNOME Desktop.

Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have apache13 
installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
options but failed.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 22:20 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
 JMC seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using seahorse-agent
 JMC are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
 
 Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have apache13 
 installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
 options but failed.

Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
is now part of the GNOME Desktop.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
JMC  JMC seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using 
seahorse-agent
JMC  JMC are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
JMC  
JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have 
apache13 
JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
JMC  options but failed.
JMC 
JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.

Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring apache22?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 23:22 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC  JMC I had assumed you had x11/gnome2 installed which includes
 JMC  JMC seahorse-plugins.  I find people that expect to be using 
 seahorse-agent
 JMC  JMC are using the entire GNOME Desktop.
 JMC  
 JMC  Another question: is there a way to avoid apache22 install (i have 
 apache13 
 JMC  installed and have no current plans to upgrade) ? I tried to chase 
 JMC  options but failed.
 JMC 
 JMC Not by using the meta-port.  This is required for gnome-user-share which
 JMC is now part of the GNOME Desktop.
 
 Hmm, so currently there is no way to install gnome2 without requiring 
 apache22?

Correct.  You could, of course, go through the meta-port, and remove
gnome-user-share on your own (i.e. build your own customized meta-port).

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See

[snip]

After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use Treminal 
remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs (sorry, 
can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)

Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 auth.notice 
revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords and 
or keys from being written to the disk

Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386

Thanks in advance.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 03:47 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See
 
 [snip]
 
 After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
 Treminal 
 remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs (sorry, 
 can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
 
 Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 auth.notice 
 revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords 
 and 
 or keys from being written to the disk
 
 Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386

This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
SSH?

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
Treminal 
JMC  remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs 
(sorry, 
JMC  can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
JMC  
JMC  Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
auth.notice 
JMC  revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
passwords and 
JMC  or keys from being written to the disk
JMC  
JMC  Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
JMC 
JMC This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
JMC SSH?


Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent with 
this?

BTW, I have 

There was an error creating the child process for this terminal

as a modal dialog box when I tried to open stored Terminal window to the host 
which requires authorized_keys authentication.

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:30 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC  After upgrading via portupgrade -a my home machine I can no longer use 
 Treminal 
 JMC  remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the logs 
 (sorry, 
 JMC  can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
 JMC  
 JMC  Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
 auth.notice 
 JMC  revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
 passwords and 
 JMC  or keys from being written to the disk
 JMC  
 JMC  Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
 JMC 
 JMC This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM configured for
 JMC SSH?
 
 
 Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent with 
 this?

Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?

Joe

 
 BTW, I have 
 
 There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
 
 as a modal dialog box when I tried to open stored Terminal window to the host 
 which requires authorized_keys authentication.
 
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC  remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the 
logs (sorry, 
JMC  JMC  can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
JMC  JMC  
JMC  JMC  Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
auth.notice 
JMC  JMC  revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep 
passwords and 
JMC  JMC  or keys from being written to the disk
JMC  JMC  
JMC  JMC  Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
JMC  JMC 
JMC  JMC This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM 
configured for
JMC  JMC SSH?
JMC  
JMC  
JMC  Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent 
with 
JMC  this?
JMC 
JMC Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
JMC seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?

It seems to be so.

Let me explain the situation a bit:

My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, acts as 
my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as trusted.

Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking.

Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked that 
I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
password qiery.

Any other hints? Thank you!

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:46 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC  JMC  remote login using ssh keys with the following message in the 
 logs (sorry, 
 JMC  JMC  can't reproduce the message from Terminal popup window)
 JMC  JMC  
 JMC  JMC  Apr 12 11:54:37 console.info revamp kernel: Apr 12 11:54:37 
 auth.notice 
 JMC  JMC  revamp gnome-keyring-ask: couldn't allocate secure memory to 
 keep passwords and 
 JMC  JMC  or keys from being written to the disk
 JMC  JMC  
 JMC  JMC  Any hints to fix this? RELENG_7/i386
 JMC  JMC 
 JMC  JMC This error is normal, and not fatal.  How do you have PAM 
 configured for
 JMC  JMC SSH?
 JMC  
 JMC  
 JMC  Hrrm, this is from client side, not from server, how can PAM intervent 
 with 
 JMC  this?
 JMC 
 JMC Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem with
 JMC seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
 
 It seems to be so.
 
 Let me explain the situation a bit:
 
 My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, acts 
 as 
 my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as trusted.
 
 Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
 let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking.
 
 Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
 whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked 
 that 
 I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
 password qiery.

What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?

Joe

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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

JMC  JMC Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a problem 
with
JMC  JMC seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
JMC  
JMC  It seems to be so.
JMC  
JMC  Let me explain the situation a bit:
JMC  
JMC  My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports tree, 
acts as 
JMC  my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as 
trusted.
JMC  
JMC  Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then 
JMC  let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
asking.
JMC  
JMC  Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check 
JMC  whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
checked that 
JMC  I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual 
JMC  password qiery.
JMC 
JMC What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?

ma...@revamp:/usr/ports pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, SSH)

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D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 04:52 +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 
 JMC  JMC Then I guess I misunderstand the problem.  Are you having a 
 problem with
 JMC  JMC seahorse-agent acting as an SSH agent?
 JMC  
 JMC  It seems to be so.
 JMC  
 JMC  Let me explain the situation a bit:
 JMC  
 JMC  My home machine, RELENG_7/i386, with fresh source and fresh ports 
 tree, acts as 
 JMC  my window to my work servers, some of them recognising my SSH key as 
 trusted.
 JMC  
 JMC  Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, 
 then 
 JMC  let me use this private key during my (home) session without further 
 asking.
 JMC  
 JMC  Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to 
 check 
 JMC  whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even 
 checked that 
 JMC  I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have 
 usual 
 JMC  password qiery.
 JMC 
 JMC What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
 
 ma...@revamp:/usr/ports pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
 gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
 seahorse-2.26.0 GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, SSH)

Go to 2.26.1 on both, and see if the problem persists.

Joe

 
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-13 Thread Michal Varga
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru wrote:
 Dear Joe Marcus,

 DM JMC What versions of gnome-keyring and seahorse do you have?
 DM
 DM ma...@revamp:/usr/ports pkg_info | egrep 'gnome-keyring|seahorse'
 DM gnome-keyring-2.26.0 A program that keeps passwords and other secrets
 DM seahorse-2.26.0     GNOME application for managing encryption keys (PGP, 
 SSH)

 After

 portupgrade -f seahorse gnome-keyring

 and reboot

 still the same effect...

 Of course, I can wipe packages installed and set it up from scratch, but I
 would prefer a bit safer way if at all possible ;-)

Well, I have no idea what a Terminal remote login in this particular
context is, so this may not be of any help, but I've seen this issue
before:

Before the upgrade, I had once pop-up asking for my key passphrase, then
let me use this private key during my (home) session without further asking..
Now, when I try to connect to the host which even possibly want to check
whether I want to present some key there, I got the pop-up. I even checked that
I can connect to the host in question using plain xterm, and have usual
password qiery.

I've been in similiar situation some time ago, when new
gnome-keyring/seahorse (it started with one of the recent versions,
don't remember exactly when, but definitely before 2.26 was
introduced) for some surely interesting reason insisted on creating a
very own keyring every other reboot - while originally you were using
one default keyring (let's call it default) for storing your
passwords, now gnome-keyring kept creating a new one named login and
always set it as the default one.

That login keyring was even more special in that that nothing stored
in it ever worked, it still kept asking for passwords and even then
was not able to use them (and lost them on the next reboot anyway..
Maybe that's a feature, don't know, don't care). I've run into this on
a few different machines, every time I needed to open 'seahorse', get
to Passwords tab, delete the login keyring, set the original
default as the default keyring (first time I wiped them all and
created a clean one to be sure, but as it turned out later, this
wasn't needed), after that, passwords worked fine again. This
procedure again and again for a few days/reboots, until seahorse
miraculously stopped this madness and let my default keyring be, well,
default (yes, just like that).

Anyway, if you weren't there yet, check seahorse gui for what keyring
are you really using, maybe you've hit the same issue with the login
stupidity..

m.
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Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.26 available for FreeBSD

2009-04-12 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi,

Am Freitag, den 10.04.2009, 02:12 -0400 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
 GNOME 2.26 has been merged into the ports tree.  See
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/ for a list of what's
 new.  On the FreeBSD front, we introduced a port of libxul 1.9 as an
 alternative for Firefox 2.0 as a Gecko provider.  Almost all of the
 Gecko consumers can make use of this provider by setting:
   
 WITH_GECKO=libxul
I see galeon-2.0.7 (via gnome2-fifth-toe) offers option xulrunner not
libxul.
With your setting WITH_GECKO=libxul it will use firefox instead.

Greeetings,

Uli.

 Joe
 
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