Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes?
On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this example of PostgreSQL in particular? The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD isn't at least at 9.2. As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _ Linux is at whatever version. John ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:27 PM, John Marino freebsd.cont...@marino.st wrote: On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this example of PostgreSQL in particular? The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD isn't at least at 9.2. As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _ Linux is at whatever version. I agree. syncing with Linux is at least vague. Which distros should be want to be synced with? Ubuntu? Fedora? Mint? Also, syncing with Linux (for whatever value of Linux) would mean that even if FreeBSD wants to have a higher version of some synced package we should hold the change until Linux does it... I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Besides, as in the example of PostgreSQL not even the Linux distros are really synced between them. Cheers. John ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:27:43PM +0200, John Marino wrote: On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this example of PostgreSQL in particular? The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD isn't at least at 9.2. As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _ Linux is at whatever version. I tend to agree with John on both points. Changing default software versions to be in line with whatever the Linux distribution of the week is doing is futile. Changing default software versions to something reasonably stable and recent makes sense. Concerning Postgres, 9.3 is the latest stable version, brings JSON support to the table and doesn't need SYSV shared memory sysctl tuning anymore. Making it the new default is the logical choice. -- Francois Tigeot ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes?
On 4/16/14, 9:00 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:27:43PM +0200, John Marino wrote: On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this example of PostgreSQL in particular? The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD isn't at least at 9.2. As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _ Linux is at whatever version. I tend to agree with John on both points. Changing default software versions to be in line with whatever the Linux distribution of the week is doing is futile. He was talking about LTS (long term stability branches) not flavor of the week. Changing default software versions to something reasonably stable and recent makes sense. Concerning Postgres, 9.3 is the latest stable version, brings JSON support to the table and doesn't need SYSV shared memory sysctl tuning anymore. Making it the new default is the logical choice. Except that the pressure on the vm is much worse than using sysvshm. -Alfred ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
